Need Speedy WR?

[omar586]

santana moss is UFA after SB, skins have voided his contract (per espn), and guess what? we need speedy WR, but i dont know , cam may not use like he supposed to , he might use him on end-arounds, like he did with stalworth, what u guys think??? should we sign him, he's underrated with great speed, suprised that the skins released him, that's is the only good thing they have on that team.

[Romo Ravens]

No more Veteran WR's. We need youth

[PuRock]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' timestamp='1297015535' post='633460']
No more Veteran WR's. We need youth
[/quote]

Yep. Enough with the signing of vets to the WR squad. It hasn't proven to be exactly fruitful. Its time we get some high talented youth out there. Actually line these guys up and see what they can do.

Plus on top of that, Santana isn't even the speedy deep threat on Washington anymore. He runs more intermediate routes nowadays. Armstrong is the speed guy for them.

[Alexir]

All about price. It's hard to say no to a guy who just had 93 grabs for 1,115 yards.....I wouldn't mind having him at all, he is gonna be 32 which isn't that old and would be a great deep threat. Boldin, Moss, Mason, Reed?

[ghost1986]

I can't agree more. We should be looking at guys like Johnathan Baldwin, Titus Young and Torrey Smith. And we need to actually use them instead of putting them on the backup squad. Just show confidence in them. Hopefully David Reed will stop smoking dope and also hope his wrist injury is gone as well.

[Alexir]

[quote name='ghost1986' timestamp='1297016417' post='633469']
I can't agree more. We should be looking at guys like [b]Johnathan Baldwin[/b], Titus Young and Torrey Smith. And we need to actually use them instead of putting them on the backup squad. Just show confidence in them. Hopefully David Reed will stop smoking dope and also hope his wrist injury is gone as well.
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Went to Pittsburgh, dont want him. Would love Titus or Torrey though.

[ravensdfan]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1297015642' post='633461']
Yep. Enough with the signing of vets to the WR squad. It hasn't proven to be exactly fruitful. Its time we get some high talented youth out there. Actually line these guys up and see what they can do.

Plus on top of that, Santana isn't even the speedy deep threat on Washington anymore. He runs more intermediate routes nowadays. Armstrong is the speed guy for them.
[/quote]

I agree with the not signing the vets. We have some youth here that remains pretty much untested. Reed was put in for ST but what can he do for us in the WR slot? He's pretty fast.

[Token]

I wouldn't mind getting Jernigan myself.

[PuRock]

[quote name='ravensdfan' timestamp='1297016970' post='633483']
I agree with the not signing the vets. We have some youth here that remains pretty much untested. Reed was put in for ST but what can he do for us in the WR slot? He's pretty fast.
[/quote]

The coaching staff leaves us wanting to see more of our young WRs. D-Will never got to the see field and when he did, he made some things happen. Reed who is speedy, never even got to see a target this year. Harper, Riley, Smith show flashes but are never given the shot during games.

I understand the coaches see things, but once in a you have to give these guys prolonged shots.

[Jamal]

No more over the hill WR's. If we must sign one over Mason and Housh, the age max should 29 or 30. Obviously Moss isn't in that category.

[grape drank]

I have a good feeling about David Reed, don't give up on this guy, he broke all of Carolina Steve Smith's records at Utah, the guy can play ball. He just needs to start hitting the gym more than the bong and he could be great.

[JayDaRavensFan]

No need to keep renting veterans. Flacco needs younger targets to develop with him. Time to draft some youth and see what we have inhouse already.

[-Truth-]

I would generally agree about bringing in youth into our WR corps as opposed to another veteran, but I would still appreciate if the Front Office gives Moss a look. On an Offense where both the QB and OL were plagued by inconsistencies, Moss was one of the only players to produce every single week. I was impressed with his ability to find room, regardless of how little time he was given to separate. If the price is right, I definitely wouldn't mind seeing him here.

[bauer77]

is this gonna be another offseason where every and i mean EVERY FA wr, cb, qb, etc etc. is mentioned on this forum? lol

No to Moss. We had Stallworth (speedy WR) and we saw how that ended up, more carries than catches. Until we get Cam to use our guys the way they are supposed to be used, it wouldnt matter how many Wr's we signed. If Cam would have used stallworth, boldin, housh, etc. the way the other teams of their past have used them, we would be in the super bowl today.

We need to draft a WR. I think David Reed will eventually develop into a pretty good WR, and we have Boldin and if we re-sign either Housh or Stallworth. i think we could make do with those 5 guys along with Marcus Smith (mainly ST).

[1/28/01]

Sanatana Moss? Wow.....NO

[PuRock]

[quote name='bauer77' timestamp='1297021787' post='633543']
is this gonna be another offseason where every and i mean EVERY FA wr, cb, qb, etc etc. is mentioned on this forum? lol
[/quote]

Yes. It will ALWAYS be the case.

[bauer77]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1297021856' post='633545']
Yes. It will ALWAYS be the case.
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hahaha i know....i know.

[RAMBLE]

Disappointed in Boldin?

[gabefergy]

The Jets are reported to let Santonio Holmes test the FA market. He would be a great addition in my mind.

[gabefergy]

[quote name='RAMBLE' timestamp='1297023309' post='633563']
Disappointed in Boldin?
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I'm not disappointed in Boldin. I was disappointed that we had 3 receivers with the same skill set, and a coordinator who didn't know how to use them.

Throw Cam a bone and get him a legit vertical threat (I think stalls could have been that guy but he was never really given the chance)

[omar586]

most of u forget how bad our luck with WR's in the draft, name me one WR that we have drafted, that made a pro-bowl or even made a difference in b-more, that's one bad area that ozzie's team are struggling in, com'on man, moss has a blazing speed, he might be cheap 2 sign too,just think about this:

moss---mase--gaither-grubbs-birk-yanda-ohr----reed/stalworth-Q
---------------------------flacco----------------------------
----------------------------rice---------------------------

[omar586]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1297018577' post='633504']
The coaching staff leaves us wanting to see more of our young WRs. D-Will never got to the see field and when he did, he made some things happen. Reed who is speedy, never even got to see a target this year. Harper, Riley, Smith show flashes but are never given the shot during games.

I understand the coaches see things, but once in a you have to give these guys prolonged shots.
[/quote]

i agree 100%, u dont what u have if u dont give them a chance, its probably not ozzie's fault after all, it might be the coaches, because we all know ozzie always bring a lot of talent.

[Romo Ravens]

[quote name='omar586' timestamp='1297025152' post='633588']
most of u forget how bad our luck with WR's in the draft, name me one WR that we have drafted, that made a pro-bowl or even made a difference in b-more, that's one bad area that ozzie's team are struggling in, com'on man, moss has a blazing speed, he might be cheap 2 sign too,just think about this:

moss---mase--gaither-grubbs-birk-yanda-ohr----reed/stalworth-Q
---------------------------flacco----------------------------
----------------------------rice---------------------------
[/quote]

Just because we haven't hit on a WR yet doesn't mean we should give up. In my opinion, we should look at 6'2+ WR's with strength and 4.40 speed instead of 5'11 shiftier WR's. We have enough of those, which is why I'm excited that we picked up Hardy. I think Jon Baldwin, Torrey Smith or Leonard Hankerson could have great careers in Baltimore.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='omar586' timestamp='1297025152' post='633588']
most of u forget how bad our luck with WR's in the draft, name me one WR that we have drafted, that made a pro-bowl or even made a difference in b-more, that's one bad area that ozzie's team are struggling in, com'on man, moss has a blazing speed, he might be cheap 2 sign too,just think about this:

moss---mase--gaither-grubbs-birk-yanda-ohr----reed/stalworth-Q
---------------------------flacco----------------------------
----------------------------rice---------------------------
[/quote]

I love how people throw out "c'mon man" when others disagree with them.

There's a reason the Redskins voided Santana's contract. He wasn't even the fastest WR on his team this team season.

As numerous others have said, young talent is what the Ravens need now, not another veteran whose head we'll be calling for in a year or two. Just because the team hasn't drafted WR that had a lasting impact doesn't mean they'll never be able to do it.

Other teams around the league have developed go-to Wrs with [i]arguably[/i] lesser QBs than Flacco throwing them the football. The biggest key is the coaching staff actually giving players an opportunity to shine and gain confidence.

[BALTIMOREFLACCO]

Draft Torrey Smith!!!! He runs a 4.3 and is 6-1

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='BALTIMOREFLACCO' timestamp='1297029740' post='633628']
Draft Torrey Smith!!!! He runs a 4.3 and is 6-1
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That doesn't mean he'll be a good pro.

[Clutch Ravens]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1297029910' post='633630']
That doesn't mean he'll be a good pro.
[/quote]

Tell that to Darrius Heyward-Bey...Oh, wait.

[RavensAllTheWay]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1297018577' post='633504']
The coaching staff leaves us wanting to see more of our young WRs. [b]D-Will never got to the see field and when he did, he made some things happen.[/b] Reed who is speedy, never even got to see a target this year. Harper, Riley, Smith show flashes but are never given the shot during games.

I understand the coaches see things, but once in a you have to give these guys prolonged shots.
[/quote]
Not so much. He did SOME things but was too inconsistent and injury prone.

[purple.n.black]

[quote name='RavensAllTheWay' timestamp='1297031279' post='633652']
Not so much. He did SOME things but was too inconsistent and injury prone.
[/quote]
Its tough for a guy to be consistent when he hardly sees the field. Even proven vets have problems when they don't get a target till the 4th quarter. But still D-Will isn't the caliber of guy that I want. I definitely want better. Hardy is a really tall guy that could be our tall jump ball kind of a guy. So like others said I want a decently sized, strong, fast WR. No blazing speed little man that is too weak to fight off a CB at the line. I think Smith could be a good option to develop with Flacco, but I would like a guy a little bigger. Like 6'2 or 6'3. But if Smith is still around when our time comes in the second round (I think the mock I saw had him going in the 2nd) then it could be a valuable option. I have faith in the FO to make the right decision. But it would be even better to sign a guy that will be no older than 26 at the start of next season that is already proven AND will have time to develop with Flacco.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='purple.n.black' timestamp='1297032137' post='633659']
Its tough for a guy to be consistent when he hardly sees the field. Even proven vets have problems when they don't get a target till the 4th quarter. But still D-Will isn't the caliber of guy that I want. I definitely want better. Hardy is a really tall guy that could be our tall jump ball kind of a guy. So like others said I want a decently sized, strong, fast WR. [b]No blazing speed little man that is too weak to fight off a CB at the line[/b]. I think Smith could be a good option to develop with Flacco, but I would like a guy a little bigger. Like 6'2 or 6'3. But if Smith is still around when our time comes in the second round (I think the mock I saw had him going in the 2nd) then it could be a valuable option. I have faith in the FO to make the right decision. But it would be even better to sign a guy that will be no older than 26 at the start of next season that is already proven AND will have time to develop with Flacco.[/quote]

Some times, smaller receivers don't have an issue with press coverage. Greg Jennings, for example, is under 6'0 but mot CBs can't jam him because of his quickness and speed.