[Blogs] Flacco Weighs In On QB Coaches Move

[GregRaven]

Well guys looks like Cam is staying. Too bad! Another wasted year for the players and fans coming up. Time to start making plans on what to do next fall so we aren't sitting around watching this house of cards crumble before our eyes. From reading this article I get the feeling that Flacco might want out of here when his contract is up.....and I really can't blame him. I can't believe this is happening with the talent we have on this team.

[RavenArmor]

The last thing we need is for Flacco to want to leave.

[Adamame]

Well I hate seeing Jim leave and more so now that Flacco is not happy with the move. I doubt it means he wants out of Baltimore. But this Flacco-Cam relationship needs to get a good start for next year or it will turn into a bad offensive year

[DefenseWinsItAll]

[quote name='HardKnocks' timestamp='1296353538' post='628355']
Zorn wasn't fired for poor performance, he was fired so Flacco is forced to have a closer relationship with Cam. Don't feel like your being attacked, know you being attacked. You're surrounded by superstars and you're barely shining, become a superstar.
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"Dont feel like your being attacked, know your being attacked. your surrounded by superstars and your barely shining, become a superstar" THANK YOU! quote of the week right there! that basicly sums up EVERYTHING ive ever felt about Joe Flacco throughout his career and the zorn move was a "hint hint" joe. we all know your happy with your season and happy with 13 wins but this is baltimore we expect superbowl trophys and are not happy with anything less. ringless teams are the ones that are proud of 13 win seasons. teams that hold trophys would laugh at. btw joe next season dont take credit for the win column because you talk like the 13 wins reflects your success of this season. you can thank your elite defense for that. you had elite WR's a DREAM TEAM offense this year any QB would drool over. you had a probowl calibre offense no excuses why you shouldnt be preparing for green bay right now

[littleray27]

@DefenseWinsItAll--Joe can only do what he is told and has obviously shown he is happy with that scenario. Joe can't be blamed for what plays are called and where to distribute the ball, who gets the ball how many times or how many time they are not the target. I'm guessing you would be much happier with Troy Smith ehhhh?

[ravenrave123]

Flacco is a good QB when he actually throws the ball more than 5 yards which he never does because hes too scared of throwing a pick most of the time unless its a curl route or a frag to Heap. The O-line was not great this year and Flacco could not handle pressure at all whenever there is pressure he would awkwardly move around, not escape the pocket and take a sack, we need a coach that teaches him to trust his abilities and to handle pressure well or else it will be tough for us to beat elite defenses like the Steelers

[The Negotiator]

Flacco just became a leader, may not be the way he wanted it but he just told the Ravens to kiss his [i]<butt>[/i] !!!

[ravenrave123]

All of these coaches we are firing are simply scapegoats for Cam Cameron

[DefenseWinsItAll]

i dont care what the play calling is nobody is calling plays for flacco to throw interceptions in the redzone in a playoff game with a 14 point lead and turn the ball over AGAIN in THE REDZONE the very next drive. last year he failed to score a TD in fact we had 3 total points vs Indy and 08 were down by only 2 points and throws a pick6 to polomalu. if cam cameron gets replaced it will improve playcalling not joe flacco. flacco needs to learn how to put games away by PROTECTING a lead in the playoffs when they count. and are you guys joking? the oline "was not great"? did you see how much time flacco had in the pocket this year? its no wonder why they were fatigued in the 4th

[PuRock]

[quote name='littleray27' timestamp='1296364048' post='628495']
@DefenseWinsItAll--Joe can only do what he is told and has obviously shown he is happy with that scenario. Joe can't be blamed for what plays are called and where to distribute the ball, who gets the ball how many times or how many time they are not the target. I'm guessing you would [b]be much happier with Troy Smith ehhhh?[/b]
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Only if we had Troy Smith and Rex Ryan, oh how we would be Superbowl champs, three times over! (please note sarcasm)

[DefenseWinsItAll]

dont get me wrong im not sticking up for cam i think he should be fired but we cant blame all flaccos mistakes on cam cameron the blame needs to go to the right person. but flacco needs to get better with or without cam cameron here. he needs to know its not good enough he needs to stop blowing games vs pitt

[goravens1224]

i guess ray rice didnt fumble in the back on our end of the field and a bad snap by birk its amazing how people can only see flacco's screw ups

[PuRock]

It gets annoying when everybody is sure fire set on blaming ONE person. Last time I checked it was a team sport. Sure the coaches suck sometimes, Flacco sucks sometimes, O-Line sucked a lot, defense sucked at times. They've all sucked at times. But Its not ONE person's fault.

They all have a lot of learning to do. There is one thing for sure, this organization will put us in the position to at least have a fighting shot at the Superbowl. Just need to get past the Steelers and the Bengals Cover-2. Get some home playoff games in Baltimore. Its there and I have faith these guys can do it.

[littleray27]

@DefenseWinsItAll---Give it up man! First and foremost you need to remember that Joe is coming off his third year, and led this team and offense to the playoffs each of those years! Then you need to remember Joe got thrown into a starting roll, without any time to learn much of anything from a proven vet! Now you can keep crying and pissing and moaning but if you think this has been utter failure for the past three years then maybe you need to rock some black and gold! Once again maybe Troy Smith or how bout Kyle Boller, would you be more pleased with one of those guys leading this team instead of Joe? Good lord some of you people just want something to cry and complain about 24/7, thank the lord we have made it to the playoffs the past three seasons, I think the homocide rate would be sky high god for bid they actually failed!!!

[PuRock]

[quote name='littleray27' timestamp='1296367439' post='628520']
@DefenseWinsItAll---Give it up man! First and foremost you need to remember that Joe is coming off his third year, and led this team and offense to the playoffs each of those years! Then you need to remember Joe got thrown into a starting roll, without any time to learn much of anything from a proven vet! Now you can keep crying and pissing and moaning but if you think this has been utter failure for the past three years then maybe you need to rock some black and gold! Once again maybe Troy Smith or how bout Kyle Boller, would you be more pleased with one of those guys leading this team instead of Joe? Good lord some of you people just want something to cry and complain about 24/7, thank the lord we have made it to the playoffs the past three seasons, I think the homocide rate would be sky high god for bid they actually failed!!!
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Yea it really nerves me when people slam Joe. Like I always say, Rodgers was still holding a clip board at this stage of his career learning from one of the best. Joe has been thrown into the fire and the fans expect him to be like this stellar 'elite' QB by now. For a kid from a small football school, being in the top 10 in most statistical categories is impressive.

Sure Joe has plenty of things to learn and improve upon. But the kid still has a ton of upside.

[littleray27]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1296367677' post='628525']
Yea it really nerves me when people slam Joe. Like I always say, Rodgers was still holding a clip board at this stage of his career learning from one of the best. Joe has been thrown into the fire and the fans expect him to be like this stellar 'elite' QB by now. For a kid from a small football school, being in the top 10 in most statistical categories is impressive.

Sure Joe has plenty of things to learn and improve upon. But the kid still has a ton of upside.
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AMEN! I would say give the kid at least another two seasons given his circumstance of being thrown right in the mix. I mean he has got better stat wise every season (wether it's blatantly obvious or not) it's a fact. Of course it makes me mad as crap when he makes a bone headed play, but correct me if I'm wrong, didn't Mr.Wonder boy Peyton Manning throw like 10(give or take, don't remeber exact #) picks in a four game span this season? So if the "supposed" genius of an elite QB of this league made some serious mistakes, we should all be giving our THIRD YEAR QB SOME SLACK!

[PuRock]

[quote name='littleray27' timestamp='1296368218' post='628528']
AMEN! I would say give the kid at least another two seasons given his circumstance of being thrown right in the mix. I mean he has got better stat wise every season (wether it's blatantly obvious or not) it's a fact. Of course it makes me mad as crap when he makes a bone headed play, but correct me if I'm wrong, didn't Mr.Wonder boy Peyton Manning throw like 10(give or take, don't remeber exact #) picks in a four game span this season? So if the "supposed" genius of an elite QB of this league made some serious mistakes, we should all be giving our THIRD YEAR QB SOME SLACK!
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I agree. I also think Flacco deserves some more time before people can justifiably start criticizing him. He's just getting past the young part of his career and he's survived quite admirable. Can't say the same for Boller.

Let's not forget Brady has sucked in the playoffs the last two seasons and he was at HOME during those games. So the QB standards are all over the board. But even so. Top ten in most statistical categories ain't bad at all. I'd rather have that then starting another never ending search for the next QB.

[Jabara]

Can't even let the man Plunge w/o trying to get a scoop...

[coreyadams]

Its getting really confusing now.
Oline, QB coach and Cam stays!
Im waiting 2 September now, I want see how this revamped O is going 2 turn out.

[littleray27]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1296368830' post='628534']
I agree. I also think Flacco deserves some more time before people can justifiably start criticizing him. He's just getting past the young part of his career and he's survived quite admirable. Can't say the same for Boller.

Let's not forget Brady has sucked in the playoffs the last two seasons and he was at HOME during those games. So the QB standards are all over the board. But even so. Top ten in most statistical categories ain't bad at all. I'd rather have that then starting another never ending search for the next QB.
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I mean I'll be the first to admit that I set my expectations WAY high on this team/season. Then again when they brought in all the proven talent on offense this season, who wouldn't have been blinded by that and prematurely been thinking damn the super bowl trophy is back in Baltimore again. With all that aside this team (imo) is on the right track, they are and have been proving that they are consistent playoff contenders and can go deep playing on the road. Now they do have that demon they have to shake with certain teams to make that final hurdle jump. Like I said before, I am going to give it at least another two seasons before I personally will want to hit any serious panic buttons. I feel that should be enough time for Joe to be able to really show what he can do and hopefully be able to really shine, given they don't mess his head and game play all up with switching up who coaches him and so on and so forth. That is why I can also say I think keeping Cam for at least this next season is not a huge killer for Joe and shouldn't mess him up with having to relearn a whole new offensive concept.

[PuRock]

[quote name='littleray27' timestamp='1296370152' post='628542']
I mean I'll be the first to admit that I set my expectations WAY high on this team/season. Then again when they brought in all the proven talent on offense this season, who wouldn't have been blinded by that and prematurely been thinking damn the super bowl trophy is back in Baltimore again.
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That's why the majority of people are so angry and complain about everything. Expectations were too high. But like you said, they were justifiably so. We played well enough in 2008 and 2009 plus we added all these weapons. But there was one thing we couldn't account for this year, the destruction of the O-Line. When our guys got shifted out of position it left us extremely venerable.

Cam during the offseason installed a playbook based on our O-Line play of prior years + the new additions. It backfired and there was no looking back.

Give this team the opportunity to learn from their 2010 mistakes. They are going to overhaul the offensive and design a playbook that can handle O-Line woes.

But the goal is always to win a Superbowl, but that is a high bar to set expectations at. Goals and expectations can be different.

[notflacco]

I have say it for the past 3 years Flacco is just like K. Boller. We gave Boller 6 Years and this is what is going to happen again. Flacco rating have not got us to the Superbowl for 3 years. I saw the same games as everyone else and he is not impoveing. It was the defense that got us in 3 play off and more. It is not Zorn out on the field it is Flacco. It is Flacco that is messing up. It is Flacco that can not throw down the field not Zorn. How about given the fan some slack and get a GOOD QB.

[Romo Ravens]

[quote name='notflacco' timestamp='1296373448' post='628560']
I have say it for the past 3 years Flacco is just like K. Boller. We gave Boller 6 Years and this is what is going to happen again. Flacco rating have not got us to the Superbowl for 3 years. I saw the same games as everyone else and he is not impoveing. It was the defense that got us in 3 play off and more. It is not Zorn out on the field it is Flacco. It is Flacco that is messing up. It is Flacco that can not throw down the field not Zorn. How about given the fan some slack and get a GOOD QB.
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How about working on some grammar? Your writing is just as bad as you say Flacco is.

[xBLACKnPURPLEx]

The thing that sticks out to me is CONSISTENCY in a QB; Joe has the numbers, hell he has the postseason wins in only 3 years under center. Matt Ryan who everyone likes to throw into conversation given he was in the same draft class as Flacco which everyone speaks much more fondly of hasn't won a single playoff game let alone led his team to 3 consecutive appearances. You can try to say we are a complete team and our defense has carried us to the playoff because of the likes of Reed or Lewis but that defense sure as hell also led to us giving up some leads late in the game which in turn put some up some L's this season. I do remember that Atlanta game, Flacco put us in a position to leave with the W and he went into Pittsburg and got us a come from behind win too. I just can't figure out all the Flacco bashing, hes not a Peyton or a Brady but I'm glad i have a stable and IMPROVING QB in Baltimore than anything else. He will be up there someday, but cut the kid some slack hes got plenty of time to get there.

[xBLACKnPURPLEx]

The thing that sticks out to me is CONSISTENCY in a QB; Joe has the numbers, hell he has the postseason wins in only 3 years under center. Matt Ryan who everyone likes to throw into conversation given he was in the same draft class as Flacco which everyone speaks much more fondly of hasn't won a single playoff game let alone led his team to 3 consecutive appearances. You can try to say we are a complete team and our defense has carried us to the playoff because of the likes of Reed or Lewis but that defense sure as hell also led to us giving up some leads late in the game which in turn put some up some L's this season. I do remember that Atlanta game, Flacco put us in a position to leave with the W and he went into Pittsburg and got us a come from behind win too. I just can't figure out all the Flacco bashing, hes not a Peyton or a Brady but I'm glad i have a stable and IMPROVING QB in Baltimore than anything else. He will be up there someday, but cut the kid some slack hes got plenty of time to get there.

[littleray27]

[quote name='notflacco' timestamp='1296373448' post='628560']
I have say it for the past 3 years Flacco is just like K. Boller. We gave Boller 6 Years and this is what is going to happen again. Flacco rating have not got us to the Superbowl for 3 years. I saw the same games as everyone else and he is not impoveing. It was the defense that got us in 3 play off and more. It is not Zorn out on the field it is Flacco. It is Flacco that is messing up. It is Flacco that can not throw down the field not Zorn. How about given the fan some slack and get a GOOD QB.
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I think I smell a troll, or maybe just another Flacco troll/hater. Flacco is just another Boller you say? And then you follow that up with Boller was given six years, hmmm ok well then how come Flacco in just his SHORT THREE years has broke numerous franchise QB records for this team?!?!?! Has led this team to three straight playoff appearances, and I could go on and on about what this kid has done for this team, but I might as well be talking to a brick wall with someone like yourself! Well all I can say is love it or hate it but Flacco is here to stay and continue to lead this team. You don't have to like it, just accept it or I don't know what else to tell ya!!

Oh and not to knock on your defense comment, but this defense hasn't been stellar for a couple years. And if they were so stellar all season, how come they seemed to blow a 4th quarter lead, that yeah your boy Joe Flacco gave them? If I'm not mistaken we had the lead going into the 4th quarter every single game but one I think. So I mean it is what it is but Joe aint going no where, and I'm damn proud the Ravens have Joe to lead their team on offense!

[notflacco]

Like I said I do not see us in the superbowl this year do you. As for all the franchise QB records well if you do not throw over 15 yards you can get one too. As far as your I smell a troll comment. Do not take your short comming out on me.

[notflacco]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' timestamp='1296373951' post='628564']
How about working on some grammar? Your writing is just as bad as you say Flacco is.
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He still can not take us to a superbowl.

[Bristol Raven]

@ littleray27 - glad to see common sense still prevails around these parts. This is only half the story they've got posted on nfl.com and it is interesting to see Flacco standing up for himself, something he doesn't normally do, or isn't normally given a chance to do. He appears to have been just as frustrated as the rest of us. @ notflacco - Flacco can't throw down the field? Are you joking? He has one of the strongest arms in the league, and most accurate but you know what? He needs someone there to throw to, instead he has Mason, Boldin and Housh still wheezing their way past the CBs.

[yakraven]

I have to feel for Flacco; 3 years, 3 QBcoaches, and now year 4 and another new one. We had problems and part of that was based on injuries to key personnel before we even left training camp. The fanswere also fed a bill of goods by the media and that made everything we did unsatisfying. We will get better next year.