Should We Put Webb Back At Safety?

[CNC]

I don't see us re-signing Landry. And I was wondering if we should let Webb play SS. I know he is not doing to play in the box a lot but we don't need him too. Landry is slow, and wont get beat deep as often as Landry. Webb has instincts and HE CAN TACKLE. Landry has to gets in position to tackle. Webb Hits people head on. It does bode the question. Is Webb a good enough tackler to be a SS. And If We can SOMEHOW GET Aso.

I think a Secondary with Reed and Webb at the safety, Aso, fox, Wilson and Carr at the corners will be deadly what do you guys think

[Jabara]

[quote name='CNC' timestamp='1295847476' post='622784']
I don't see us re-signing Landry. And I was wondering if we should let Webb play SS. I know he is not doing to play in the box a lot but we don't need him too. Landry is slow, and wont get beat deep as often as Landry. Webb has instincts and HE CAN TACKLE. Landry has to gets in position to tackle. Webb Hits people head on. It does bode the question. Is Webb a good enough tackler to be a SS. And If We can SOMEHOW GET Aso.

I think a Secondary with Reed and Webb at the safety, Aso, fox, Wilson and Carr at the corners will be deadly what do you guys think
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I think it's a bad idea.
Webb was a safety in college, but he's not NFL safety material.
He's a CB for a reason, and he's a good one.
Why spend all offseason learning a new position?
It just doesn't make any sense to me.

[theFRANCHISE]

Webb's tackling, like most of the defense's tackling, was spotty. Coverage is more his strong suit, but he still has a tendency to lose ground on technique despite his speed. While the transition from corner to safety would be convenient and ideal, it might not necessarily work. I'm not sure what his strengths are in stopping the run (which strong-safeties generally provide support in), but if his shoddy tackling was any indication, he's better suited at cornerback.

[ravensdfan]

[quote name='CNC' timestamp='1295847476' post='622784']
I don't see us re-signing Landry. And I was wondering if we should let Webb play SS. I know he is not doing to play in the box a lot but we don't need him too. Landry is slow, and wont get beat deep as often as Landry. Webb has instincts and HE CAN TACKLE. Landry has to gets in position to tackle. Webb Hits people head on. It does bode the question. Is Webb a good enough tackler to be a SS. And If We can SOMEHOW GET Aso.

I think a Secondary with Reed and Webb at the safety, Aso, fox, Wilson and Carr at the corners will be deadly what do you guys think
[/quote]

What do you think about it without Aso because I just don't see that happening. We have too many FAs of our own that we are going to want to re-sign, the uncertainty of the CBA, not to mention most likely a cap year.

I've seen Landry miss a lot of tackles. What concerns me even more than that though is that on many of them, he just didn't seem to even be trying to make the tackle.

We have no idea how Foxworth will perform coming off his injury. Webb is a solid CB. He makes mistakes still but he is only in his 2nd year. Not sure what is out there as far as SS but I'd agree that Landry might not be the answer there.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='ravensdfan' timestamp='1295847851' post='622787']
I've seen Landry miss a lot of tackles. What concerns me even more than that though is that on many of them, he just didn't seem to even be trying to make the tackle.
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In regards to that, I think Landry might still be gun-shy after that neck injury in 2008. I don't blame him; with a life-threatening scare like that, I'd be gun-shy, too. That said, I don't believe he was avoiding contact, I think it was just a breakdown of fundamentals in tackling that the majority of the defense also suffered from.

[Bltravens]

I like Landry, he's extremely physical at times and you need a physical safety in the AFC North because of all the power running in the division. Having said that I wish he made more impact on pass plays, he's good in man coverage with TEs and backs but he's pretty invisible in zone coverages. If its possible to find a SS who can play coverage but has a nasty demeanor about him I wouldnt hesitate to upgrade that position.

[RoflDogs]

Landry is not as bad as most of you make him out to be. He's a pretty solid player in run support and an adequate in coverage

[ryan23945]

[quote name='RoflDogs' timestamp='1295852192' post='622838']
Landry is not as bad as most of you make him out to be. He's a pretty solid player in run support and an adequate in coverage
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i agree, but i think the op was suggesting that re-signing landry is doubtful (that remains to be seen) so that may open the door for webb

[RoflDogs]

[quote name='ryan23945' timestamp='1295852733' post='622848']
i agree, but i think the op was suggesting that re-signing landry is doubtful (that remains to be seen) so that may open the door for webb
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If Webb can bulk up a bit and we resign Carr and Wilson, I don't have too much of a problem with it

[Hjulmann]

Problem is with Landry that we have Reed on our FS so Landry seems like the underdog and gets kinda overlooked, while Reed is the solid playmaker. Landry likes the running game, and is a part of the stop each time (if not T. Sizzle gets the sack beforehand!). But I do agree, we need a more zoney SS. I like Landry, though.

[XxSizzleXx]

[quote name='RoflDogs' timestamp='1295852192' post='622838']
Landry is not as bad as most of you make him out to be. He's a pretty solid player in run support and an adequate in coverage
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Completely agreed, I want to see him re-signed so the Ravens can focus on more important things during the draft and FA. If he would of caught a couple of those balls that he dropped he would of had a career year. Unfortunately like Blt said he disappears in zone coverage, and we run a lot of zone coverage.

[Radinho84]

webb is not an option as a ss. strong safety means strong for a reason. like someone mentioned before. we have to play a lot of very good running backs and our ss will mostly stick in the box. i don´t think that webb would be able to stop a running back in th open field when the back comes at full speed...

i would much rather love to see the ravens resign landry. he is a very good player for us!

[Shammy]

i say put zibby back there in passing situations

[BMOREHAWAII]

[quote name='CNC' timestamp='1295847476' post='622784']
I don't see us re-signing Landry. And I was wondering if we should let Webb play SS. I know he is not doing to play in the box a lot but we don't need him too. Landry is slow, and wont get beat deep as often as Landry. Webb has instincts and HE CAN TACKLE. Landry has to gets in position to tackle. Webb Hits people head on. It does bode the question. Is Webb a good enough tackler to be a SS. And If We can SOMEHOW GET Aso.

I think a Secondary with Reed and Webb at the safety, Aso, fox, Wilson and Carr at the corners will be deadly what do you guys think
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Were jumping the gun here with Aso thing, we probably arent even in the hunt for the top tier corner. While were at it we should sign Landry as a LB and see what he's got in store. All jokes aside, i really like Zbi in place of Landry if it has to happen. Speed, Good in coverage, good in run support. But downside would be his veteran presence, and possibly his instincts compared to what Landry brings to the table.

[Perfekt]

I would rather have Zibby instead of Landry. I remember what Leonard did before he left an I think Zibby can do the same. I would still try an resign him as a back up but as someone else mentioned hes still not over that injury from back in 08 against the Browns.

[FerrariFan87]

Another year removed from his ACL injury will do him wonders this upcoming season... I don't think Safety would be a good position for Webb.

[Ed_Reed20]

I think Lardarius is fine at CB. He missed some tackles this year but is a willing tackler and in today's NFL, having a CB like that is a bonus. He's been making the transition for two years now and it's best he be given time to complete it.

[H8R]

Webb is too small to play safety IMO.

[anonymousravenfan85]

I like landry, but he is a tad bit to slow. I wouldnt mind seeing zibby in the back field he is fast and he can hit i mean the dude boxed so hes not afraid to put his body on the line to lay someone out and thats scary if we have to hard hitting safetys just imagine the number of dropped balls. and remember we were without reed for 6 weeks and zibby looked nice out there. as far as webb definatly keep at corner he fits well there coming out of his 2nd year he took over well at different parts of the field he made mistakes but im sure he learned from them and hell improve alot of the course of time.

[Jamal]

Not a good enough tackler. If people have a problem with Landry, they'll be seriously angry with Webb.

I am in favor of moving on from Landry though, just not to replace him with Webb.

[OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL]

I'd rather see Zibby there than Webb.

[RL52TheGreatest]

I would rather have Zibby play SS instead of Webb. He tackles better than Webb anyways and has already proved that he's solid in coverage when he filled in for Ed. Webb had a pretty good season at corner for having just come back from a knee injury as well as it being just his second year in the league. I think he'll continue to get better as he gets more experience so switching him to safety doesn't make much sense right now.

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL' timestamp='1295891430' post='623113']
I'd rather see Zibby there than Webb.
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I agree, Zibby is the best option currently on the roster... I'm curious to see if Ozzie decides to bring in another young safety for Ed to groom.

[frank cambra]

Towards the end of the year I felt like i saw Webb come in from the corner and light some dudes up one on one

[Bltravens]

[quote name='OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL' timestamp='1295891430' post='623113']
I'd rather see Zibby there than Webb.
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I agree, Z has some coverage range and is a pretty smart player, he's also a tough player never hesitating in run support.

[OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL]

t[quote name='FerrariFan87' timestamp='1295891836' post='623121']
I agree, Zibby is the best option currently on the roster... I'm curious to see if Ozzie decides to bring in another young safety for Ed to groom.
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Thats whats so interesting about the draft. We go best player available, that just might be a safety, then our O line and Pass rusher would have to come from FA unless we got projects.

I am a big fan of best player available too, BTW.

[Banks]

[quote name='H8R' timestamp='1295889679' post='623085']
Webb is too small to play safety IMO.
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You cant be serious with what you said he is to small jim leaonard was only 5'8 webb is much bigger then him

[berad]

[quote name='Banks' timestamp='1295894281' post='623166']
You cant be serious with what you said he is to small jim leaonard was only 5'8 webb is much bigger then him
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Leonhard's also ~10-15 lbs heavier than Webb. Maybe that's what he meant by "too small". You normally have to have a little bulk to be a SS, Webb is a string bean.

[RoflDogs]

[quote name='Banks' timestamp='1295894281' post='623166']
You cant be serious with what you said he is to small jim leaonard was only 5'8 webb is much bigger then him
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Leonhard is thick

Webb is not. He's wiry as anything

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='frank cambra' timestamp='1295892548' post='623141']
Towards the end of the year I felt like i saw Webb come in from the corner and light some dudes up one on one
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He certainly did and has done so ever since last year when the coaches finally played him on defense. His frame though makes me doubt he'd be able to hold up at SS though.