End of Season Press Conference (1/20/11) Discussion & Recap

[Bltravens]

hahahahah Bisciotti is hilarious

[PuRock]

[quote name='PARavensgirl' timestamp='1295552964' post='619225']
And Mr. B ends with a message to us.

"Even if we don't give you 100% result, we do give you 100% effort."
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Vomit. This presser was filled with the regular cheesy sports cliches.

[Ed_Reed20]

Great way to end the presser!

[MsMarvel73]

Did you hear that laundry list of things we want? Lol...he really IS listening!

[MsMarvel73]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1295553053' post='619228']
Vomit. This presser was filled with the regular cheesy sports cliches.
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That came from his heart. I don't know if you were watching....but I could tell by the look on his face...that came from his heart, cliche or not.

[True]

Did they say anything about the status of Jared Gaither? I don't think I caught any information on him.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1295552594' post='619210']
look at that Ozzie believe you have to win 1 on 1 matchups and its not all about a scheme....imagine that!
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But he's no in the majority so his point is less valid.

[Mick0311]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' timestamp='1295552703' post='619216']
Consider how much time Stallworth missed due to injury. Consider the amount of practice time he missed, as well as how mental reps differ from actual physical reps. Also consider how crowded the depth chart is, and how inconsistency on the O-line meant that the #4 WR (which Stallworth was) wouldn't see much time on the field with the other 3 WRs on the field in some rotation and TEs blocking on the field. It makes sense when you consider all those factors.
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I see what you are saying, but I think it points to misuse and "hard-headedness" more than anything else. We had no one to stretch the field but him (with actual play time under his belt), regardless of his spot on the depth chart. He showed he can still do it, and disappeared. Couple that with how Boldin was used all season, and I'm sorry, it points to misuse in my book. We will have to agree to disagree.

[FerrariFan87]

Why would Harbaugh hitch his wagon to Cam? That makes no sense after the significant drop-off in production this season... here's to another 2nd place finish and title-less season?

[MsMarvel73]

[quote name='True' timestamp='1295553189' post='619233']
Did they say anything about the status of Jared Gaither? I don't think I caught any information on him.
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No one asked.

[Bullrush]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' timestamp='1295552304' post='619200']
Makes perfect sense to me. As I suspected earlier in the season, there was no chemistry. Chemistry is tantamount to success, particularly in terms of timing.
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No, it really doesn't. Boldin started off hot and didn't make any plays in the 2nd half of the season. How do you explain that (if that's "chemistry" related). By the way this is the NFL. You can't have receivers on your team for 5 years and wait another 5 years until the chemistry improves before you produce numbers. That's not how the league works. You put a guy on the field, you throw the ball to him and he makes the catch. That's the NFL. Of course you need to get to know the guy, but that's what practice is for. I'm not even complaining about TJ's numbers, I didn't expect him to get a 100 catches. But it's ridiculous to put Boldin, Stallworth...everybody in there and blame it on "chemistrsy". That's such a lame excuse. What do these guys do out there during camp, every day in practice during the season.

You don't need a Marvin Harrison - Peyton Manning type chemistry to put up decent numbers. If you look around the league it's perfectly normal for a QB to throw the ball to guys that he hasn't thrown the ball to for a long time. Chemistry is not an excuse. Especially not when the guy has been with your team during OTA's, the entire offseason, camp, preseason and the regular season of course. You still can't get him involved because of chemistry? Even though you did have that chemistry at the beginning of the season? How does that work?

What kind of chemistry does Tebow have with Brandon Lloyd, why was the guy still putting up great numbers when Tebow entered? Like I said, it's a lame excuse. Flacco is a very experienced quarterback, he has been through a lot. Housh and Boldin are among the most experienced and best receivers in the game. Please don't tell me that these guys are too dumb to "connect". You could line up Andre Johnson out there and Flacco would get every single ball in his hands with a different coordinator. He would get Boldin involved, Housh involved, Stallworth involved. It has absolutely nothing to do with chemistry. That excuse would work if we had Tebow who's got zero experience and doesn't know the pro level. It doesn't work with Flacco and some of the most experienced receivers in the game. Housh was invisible the entire season. From week 1 to 17. It had nothing to do with chemistry. Bring in a different coordinator and you'll see what the real issue is.

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='PARavensgirl' timestamp='1295552964' post='619225']
And Mr. B ends with a message to us.

"Even if we don't give you 100% result, we do give you 100% effort."
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Ok? Thanks for letting us know....

[PWNEDbyDEANO]

[quote name='True' timestamp='1295553189' post='619233']
Did they say anything about the status of Jared Gaither? I don't think I caught any information on him.
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No mention, but I think they would have said that if they can work a deal out with him that works for both parties, they will.

I didn't really get a lot of info out of that if I'm brutally honest. I do appreciate the owners' side to the CBA negotiations a fair amount more now though.

[PuRock]

[quote name='PARavensgirl' timestamp='1295553137' post='619231']
That came from his heart. I don't know if you were watching....but I could tell by the look on his face...that came from his heart, cliche or not.
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I wasn't watching. Work internet too slow. Only taking what you wrote.

[Mick0311]

[quote name='True' timestamp='1295552941' post='619224']
I can understand Houshmanzdah not playing up to par because of lack of chemistry.

But what about Boldin being under used? And what about why Stallworth ran more reverses then he had passes thrown his way? Why did the offense shut down in the second half of games and go in a 5 week no secondhand half TD? I want to know whats wrong with why the personnel is not being used to the best of its ability.
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Exactly. It doesn't take months of chemistry to make a few plays here and there. These guys are pros. Explain why Stallworth can come in right after the injury recovery and get behind the Steeler's defense, then disappear for the rest of the season. Nothing to do with chemistry.

[True]

[quote name='PARavensgirl' timestamp='1295553237' post='619237']
No one asked.
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Darn. They have to get [i]back[/i] to us on that one..

[heapitup247]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' timestamp='1295553228' post='619236']
Why would Harbaugh hitch his wagon to Cam? That makes no sense after the significant drop-off in production this season... here's to another 2nd place finish and title-less season?
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Because Cam is a big reason we're the team we are now. Whether you want to admit it or not, Flacco is a good QB, and Cam played a huge role in that.

[EnVy_CaLiBeR]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' timestamp='1295553228' post='619236']
Why would Harbaugh hitch his wagon to Cam? That makes no sense after the significant drop-off in production this season... here's to another 2nd place finish and title-less season?
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I'm not going as far as to say we'll be title-less but he now knows he's tied to Cam. With that said, Harbs will be more involved with what he does because Cam falls upon him now.

I have faith we're going to rebuild our offense and get our defense better than last season with this presser.

[UMDan]

Thanks for the updates guys, I can't view streaming video at work

[jus'_crAzy]

LOVED Mr. Bisciotti's closing statement!

I also liked Ozzie's and Harb's explanation for us fans as to what happened this year. That the sudden and constant influx of talent kinda threw everyone off during the offseason. That coaches should've coached better during the season.

I'm happy with their responses. Like PuRock says, it may be cheesy media jargon, but it still makes me feel better, as a fan, to know that THEY know.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1295553204' post='619234']
But he's no in the majority so his point is less valid.
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I heard Billick say once the way you scheme for teams, is by trying to out number them in a situation (screen pass, overload blitz), something else, and then your best 1 on 1 matchup. I love how frozen some people are in their thinking about Xs and Os, and that an X can never beat an O 1 on 1, it has to be 2 Xs on 1 O.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='True' timestamp='1295553189' post='619233']
Did they say anything about the status of Jared Gaither? I don't think I caught any information on him.
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I don't think he was touched on. I definitely don't recall anyone asking him about him specifically.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' timestamp='1295553228' post='619236']
Why would Harbaugh hitch his wagon to Cam? That makes no sense after the significant drop-off in production this season... here's to another 2nd place finish and title-less season?
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How about no. Again, placing significant drop-off in production all on one person makes zero sense.

[MsMarvel73]

[quote name='jus'_crAzy' timestamp='1295553420' post='619249']
LOVED Mr. Bisciotti's closing statement!

I also liked Ozzie's and Harb's explanation for us fans as to what happened this year. That the sudden and constant influx of talent kinda threw everyone off during the offseason. That coaches should've coached better during the season.

I'm happy with their responses. Like PuRock says, it may be cheesy media jargon, but [b]it still makes me feel better, as a fan, to know that THEY know.[/b]
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Indeed. They really are listening.

[Mick0311]

[quote name='Bullrush' timestamp='1295553294' post='619240']
No, it really doesn't. Boldin started off hot and didn't make any plays in the 2nd half of the season. How do you explain that (if that's "chemistry" related). By the way this is the NFL. You can't have receivers on your team for 5 years and wait another 5 years until the chemistry improves before you produce numbers. That's not how the league works. You put a guy on the field, you throw the ball to him and he makes the catch. That's the NFL. Of course you need to get to know the guy, but that's what practice is for. I'm not even complaining about TJ's numbers, I didn't expect him to get a 100 catches. But it's ridiculous to put Boldin, Stallworth...everybody in there and blame it on "chemistrsy". That's such a lame excuse. What do these guys do out there during camp, every day in practice during the season.

You don't need a Marvin Harrison - Peyton Manning type chemistry to put up decent numbers. If you look around the league it's perfectly normal for a QB to throw the ball to guys that he hasn't thrown the ball to for a long time. Chemistry is not an excuse. Especially not when the guy has been with your team during OTA's, the entire offseason, camp, preseason and the regular season of course. You still can't get him involved because of chemistry? Even though you did have that chemistry at the beginning of the season? How does that work?

What kind of chemistry does Tebow have with Brandon Lloyd, why was the guy still putting up great numbers when Tebow entered? Like I said, it's a lame excuse. Flacco is a very experienced quarterback, he has been through a lot. Housh and Boldin are among the most experienced and best receivers in the game. Please don't tell me that these guys are too dumb to "connect". You could line up Andre Johnson out there and Flacco would get every single ball in his hands with a different coordinator. He would get Boldin involved, Housh involved, Stallworth involved. It has absolutely nothing to do with chemistry. That excuse would work if we had Tebow who's got zero experience and doesn't know the pro level. It doesn't work with Flacco and some of the most experienced receivers in the game. Housh was invisible the entire season. From week 1 to 17. It had nothing to do with chemistry. Bring in a different coordinator and you'll see what the real issue is.
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Yeah, pretty much what I'm thinking as well. With that said, I still love me some Ozzie. Go get em' in the draft Oz!!

[grantkyle2003]

I love this team more now, atleast there listening. When is the last time the orioles held a press conference on the state of the organization and gave us there intentions?

[Bullrush]

[quote name='EnVy_CaLiBeR' timestamp='1295552634' post='619213']
It make sense but I think it applies with Housh more than anyone. Housh most likely messed up chemistry more than anyone. Chemistry is everything, but I don't think Dickson, Stallworth, and Pitta not getting the ball more should not be excused.

Good. Ozzie has said they're looking into getting someone opposite of Suggs.
[/quote]
Yeah, I have no problem with Housh not putting up monster numbers. But Ozzie used this excuse for Boldin and Stallworth as well which is just lame to me.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Bullrush' timestamp='1295553294' post='619240']
No, it really doesn't. Boldin started off hot and didn't make any plays in the 2nd half of the season. How do you explain that (if that's "chemistry" related). By the way this is the NFL. You can't have receivers on your team for 5 years and wait another 5 years until the chemistry improves before you produce numbers. That's not how the league works. You put a guy on the field, you throw the ball to him and he makes the catch. That's the NFL. Of course you need to get to know the guy, but that's what practice is for. I'm not even complaining about TJ's numbers, I didn't expect him to get a 100 catches. But it's ridiculous to put Boldin, Stallworth...everybody in there and blame it on "chemistrsy". That's such a lame excuse. What do these guys do out there during camp, every day in practice during the season.

You don't need a Marvin Harrison - Peyton Manning type chemistry to put up decent numbers. If you look around the league it's perfectly normal for a QB to throw the ball to guys that he hasn't thrown the ball to for a long time. Chemistry is not an excuse. Especially not when the guy has been with your team during OTA's, the entire offseason, camp, preseason and the regular season of course. You still can't get him involved because of chemistry? Even though you did have that chemistry at the beginning of the season? How does that work?

What kind of chemistry does Tebow have with Brandon Lloyd, why was the guy still putting up great numbers when Tebow entered? Like I said, it's a lame excuse. Flacco is a very experienced quarterback, he has been through a lot. Housh and Boldin are among the most experienced and best receivers in the game. Please don't tell me that these guys are too dumb to "connect". You could line up Andre Johnson out there and Flacco would get every single ball in his hands with a different coordinator. He would get Boldin involved, Housh involved, Stallworth involved. It has absolutely nothing to do with chemistry. That excuse would work if we had Tebow who's got zero experience and doesn't know the pro level. It doesn't work with Flacco and some of the most experienced receivers in the game. Housh was invisible the entire season. From week 1 to 17. It had nothing to do with chemistry. Bring in a different coordinator and you'll see what the real issue is.
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Nowhere near enough plays were dialed up for Boldin. That can't be denied.

However, when your QB is at the level Joe Flacco is and the o-line plays the way it did, you're not just going to have the "plug and play" passing game you described.

Joe being experienced doesn't mean there are glaring holes in his game([b]LIKE BISCIOTTI ALLUDED TO[/b]) that hurt the offense.

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1295553427' post='619250']
I heard Billick say once the way you scheme for teams, is by trying to out number them in a situation (screen pass, overload blitz), something else, and then your best 1 on 1 matchup. I love how frozen some people are in their thinking about Xs and Os, and that an X can never beat an O 1 on 1, it has to be 2 Xs on 1 O.
[/quote]

Agreed

[grantkyle2003]

[quote name='Bullrush' timestamp='1295553676' post='619263']
Yeah, I have no problem with Housh not putting up monster numbers. But Ozzie used this excuse for Boldin and Stallworth as well which is just lame to me.
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especially when boldin and stallworth had all off season to work with flacco and get down there timing. I dont know why they just cant admit cam doesnt know how to use all them effectively.

[OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1295550232' post='619125']
I'm staring at the door now.
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I t hasn't hit him in the butt yet!