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Suicide Squad got pretty terrible reviews. But after looking at the ghostbusters reviews(77% on rotten tomatoes) I honestly don't trust them anymore lol. That movie was worse than horrible. It was mindbogglingly idiotic and stupid. It wasn't funny, it was insulting. Not because of the contreversial crap but because of how dumb a lot of it was. 

 

 I'll form my own opinions lol. I liked (parts of) London has Fallen and Batman v. Superman. I didn't like Deadpool as much as everyone else, I didn't hate X-men appocolypse. 

 

Hopefully Suicide Squad is fun. It's not a movie I'm expecting much from plot wise. 

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15 hours ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

@Purple_ICE 81

 

Suicide Squad got pretty terrible reviews

Hopefully Suicide Squad is fun. It's not a movie I'm expecting much from plot wise. 

I feel every movie gets terrible reviews now a days unless it's a damn Oscar nomination lol Suicide Squad did have a pretty basic plot and was more of an introduction movie showing off its new characters but it worked well and was super epic. It doesn't have the boring filler that BvS, and Captain America Civil War had (Baron Zemo/Crossbones subplots made me fall asleep zzzzzzzz lol)  was never a moment is Suicide Squad where I was bored or questioning the overall direction of the movie.

 

I read all the horrible reviews for it before seeing it and was surprised it got bad flak .. namely for the lack of joker (which I thought there was a healthy dose of him in short scenes that made the plot work), the villain who I thought was basic, kind of weak, but made for alot of great fight scenes, and also a lot of people complained about the  overuse of music but  I loved the soundtrack.

 

I was absolutely shocked and surprised how fun, hilarious, dark, upbeat and overall epic this movie was. Its just a fun ride.

 

 

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I never listen to main stream reviews, how many movies have bombed in reviews and became classics afterwards?

Watched Marauders....had hopes for it but I thought the story line was pretty lame and it was just a dull action movie...don't bother. 

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And on a side note, I'm excited for all the new Cinematic Universes that are in the works similar to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. 

Justice League

KingKong VS Godzilla

Transformers 

And even the Netflix Defenders show 

 

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4 minutes ago, Purple_ICE 81 said:

And on a side note, I'm excited for all the new Cinematic Universes that are in the works similar to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. 

Justice League

KingKong VS Godzilla

Transformers 

And even the Netflix Defenders show 

Im excited for the new King Kong movie next year....

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51 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

Im excited for the new King Kong movie next year....

Yea I  loved Lionsgates  Godzilla, and the  Kong Skull Island trailer looked awesome, and the fact that they re doing a Kong V Godzilla after that  it's looking like things are going to get epic.

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King Kong is the same story. Giant Gorilla climbs up the empire state building with a girl in his hands and swat at airplanes and then he falls down and dies.

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25 minutes ago, Steve0x said:

King Kong is the same story. Giant Gorilla climbs up the empire state building with a girl in his hands and swat at airplanes and then he falls down and dies.

SPOILER ALERT !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Watching Suicide Squad Tuesday I've only seen one trailer as I generally tend to hate to many trailers.

 

that being said Point Break, the new one, I dismissed yet found myself watching it last week and it's a stunning film. By no means perfect, somewhat gritty in direction which I think suits it. Visually appealing and generally easy watch, definitely recommend.

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On 7/31/2016 at 2:35 AM, Steve0x said:

Will their be another Dirty Harry movie? I think they should do the last one. Harry Callahan is now Commander.  

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He's now your boss! You better not give him any excuses or he'll give you one.

Nah - Gran Torino was a fitting swan song and it was right up his alley. Nasty old man who can still act the role of the bad dude. 

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59 minutes ago, CognitiveCorvus said:

that being said Point Break, the new one, I dismissed yet found myself watching it last week and it's a stunning film. By no means perfect, somewhat gritty in direction which I think suits it. Visually appealing and generally easy watch, definitely recommend.

I thought that movie was terrible....so bad to me. 

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1 minute ago, usmccharles said:

I thought that movie was terrible....so bad to me. 

Each to their own, forgetting the original and not comparing the final product to it I walked away happy with the prospect that if asked to watch again it wouldn't be a waste of my night.

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2 minutes ago, CognitiveCorvus said:

Each to their own, forgetting the original and not comparing the final product to it I walked away happy with the prospect that if asked to watch again it wouldn't be a waste of my night.

Yea I wasn't comparing it either, I guess I just was so excited for it.  I just thought it was so corny...just the way the story developed and all...

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12 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

Yea I wasn't comparing it either, I guess I just was so excited for it.  I just thought it was so corny...just the way the story developed and all...

 

I had no excitement, no hope, nothing, so that helped.

dont get me wrong the plot was weak. There was no plot development, character development was non existent too, I hated the 'Keanu shooting in the air' scene, that should have never made the final edit. 

That being said the extreme sports were shot beautifully, a visual treat that despite the films flaws made it watchable and actually enjoyable. The final test of the eight, as he was screaming how beautiful the wave was, I sat there agreeing to be honest haha.

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16 minutes ago, CognitiveCorvus said:

 

I had no excitement, no hope, nothing, so that helped.

dont get me wrong the plot was weak. There was no plot development, character development was non existent too, I hated the 'Keanu shooting in the air' scene, that should have never made the final edit. 

That being said the extreme sports were shot beautifully, a visual treat that despite the films flaws made it watchable and actually enjoyable. The final test of the eight, as he was screaming how beautiful the wave was, I sat there agreeing to be honest haha.

I actually reviewed this movie in here sometime ago and I brought up that scene as well.  My main take away was that it was a movie produced to film some extremely awesome stunts, but I honestly think I could of come up with a better story line. 

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17 hours ago, usmccharles said:

I actually reviewed this movie in here sometime ago and I brought up that scene as well.  My main take away was that it was a movie produced to film some extremely awesome stunts, but I honestly think I could of come up with a better story line. 

Yeah that scene was so misplaced but outside of that I enjoyed it haha

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Was not happy with Suicide Squad.  Smith and Robbie were great, to me, but the actual movie...  not so much.  Prefer BvS.  Killer Croc... ugh.

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2 hours ago, redrum52 said:

Was not happy with Suicide Squad.  Smith and Robbie were great, to me, but the actual movie...  not so much.  Prefer BvS.  Killer Croc... ugh.


Still not sold on BvS. Don't get me wrong didn't deserve the worldwide slating it got, but it was heavily flawed, most notably the ineffectiveness of Batman... seems to have one thing in his arsenal, freaking smoke grenades :/

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19 hours ago, CognitiveCorvus said:


Still not sold on BvS. Don't get me wrong didn't deserve the worldwide slating it got, but it was heavily flawed, most notably the ineffectiveness of Batman... seems to have one thing in his arsenal, freaking smoke grenades :/

Thats on Zack Snyder. He focuses too much on iconography at the cost of establishing scenes and real interactions, thats a common theme with his work. 

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8 hours ago, ALPHA said:

Thats on Zack Snyder. He focuses too much on iconography at the cost of establishing scenes and real interactions, thats a common theme with his work. 

I love comic book characters, now that's not to be confused with being a Comic book fan, I never really had comics as a kid, strict upbringing bla bla bla... but I've grown into movies and love the comic genre. So I do like the character that Batman is (I have read back storys etc...), I think Snyder poorly portrays him and I'm a little worried about Justice League, Batman should be the imposing figure in that film, and I will only ever watch a single trailer for films (too many desaturate the experience i've found) and from the teaser ive seen, it just seems like Affleck isn't that imposing figure, he could be any other guy.

For all of Christian Bales throat issues (couldn't understand him by the Dark Knight) he was an icon playing an icon, Affleck is just an Average Joe playing an icon and the comic book character is simply overshadowing Affleck . Generally I think you need to strike a balance between actor and character. Ironman, perfect (in Civil War and the 1st Ironman), Captain America perfect in all his films, Black Panther just epic, even Ant Man I loved all be it Rudd if anything overshadows the character slightly.

My point being is that in BvS, Batman is a nobody. The thing that saves that entire film isn't even in the name and that's of course WW.

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I'd disagree. I grew up a massive Batman fan and there's a ton of problems with Bale. He's arguably the worst thing about the Nolan Trilogy, and I have most of the Nolan trilogy ahead of most of the marvel and DC movies. Affleck's batman isn't intimidating, he's freaking terrifying. He's significantly bigger than Bale in both weight and height, and he brands people. Even the people he saved at the beggining of the movie as Batman were terrified of him. Granted, they don't do nearly as much work with him as Bruce Wayne(because Zach Snyder is an idiot). When I'm watching Affleck it's like I'm watching Keaton again. He isn't a dude playing batman he is batman. He's the character I grew up loving, and still love to this day. Bale is good, but it's got problems. 

 

And as much as I love Batman, the only logical way to make Batman fight superman is with Kryptonite anything. And even then if he were to truly piss off superman, he'd resist the Kryptonite and one shot him into space. 

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I don't think anyone has done a convincing Batman because you have to hit the right notes as both Batman and Bruce Wayne, most actors do one better than the other. 

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The thing with Bale was he had to play 3 characters 

Batman

Bruce Wayne

Party Bruce Wayne trying to convince people he couldnt possibly be Batman

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57 minutes ago, Steve0x said:

I just watched Star Trek at Regal Cinemas in Hunt Valley 

I love that you were able to describe the cinema brand and location, but gave absolutely NO opinion of the movie.

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2 hours ago, ravensdan said:

I'm still a fan of Tim Burtons Batman. 

Keaton is my favorite. He was naturally intimidating as batman even with his shorter stature. Both of those batman movies are better than 95% of the stuff marvel puts out. I think Affleck is the closest personality wise to the comic but the problem is that Snyder is so incompetent that he makes him do very unbatman like things(Even if Robin was dead Batman wouldn't start to slaughter people or use guns in any capacity). I'd say Keaton was a better all around, coming close to nailing both Bruce Wayne and Batman(the let's get nuts seen is one of my favorites ever), while Affleck is a better pure batman(even if Eisenberg's Luthor is a nut job, that scene at the end where he visits him in the prison is quitessential batman. Terrifying, short, and brutal despite the fact that he does nothing). 

 

2 hours ago, ludy51 said:

The thing with Bale was he had to play 3 characters 

Batman

Bruce Wayne

Party Bruce Wayne trying to convince people he couldnt possibly be Batman

And he does Bruce Wayne VERY well. He's by far the best Bruce Wayne we've seen. But he's not nearly as intimidating as Batman. Part of it isn't his fault, for starters he's very slow in his movements. That's a director thing, the only "bad" thing about the Nolan trilogy is that the action scenes(sans the one where he takes on the swat team, that is freaking awesome) are average. But as films they are fantastic . The voice is too. There are scenes where he is batman(SWEAR TO ME. The interrogation room scene in the Dark Knight, his introduction in Batman begins). But scenes where he's in the suit and he's horrible, and seems totally oblivious to everything going on(most of The Dark Knight Rises really. "Where's your trigger?(which comic book batman would have figured out from the start)").

 

Bale is by far the dumbest Batman detective wise. He has moments where he's smart, but he's a terrible detective if I do say so myself(and the only bad thing about the dark knight is the bullet thing. I get that this is comic books but come on. That film series is supposed to be semi-realistic).  However he was a much better fighter than Keaton(whom had 0 fighting skills), and while the choreography  isn't sexy that stuff is highly effective in real life(I'm a first degree black belt in Tae Kwon do, and am a practitioner of Muay Thai. Kicking is incredibly flashy and effective(if you know how to use it), but highly impractical if you're taking on a highly trained opponent or a  group of opponents). He seems to be a very intelligent strategist but most of the good that comes from his performance is as Bruce Wayne. Hes charming, intelligent(even if he's a bad detective), and acts like a billionaire playboy should. There's a natural light drawn to him when he's on screen as Bruce Wayne. He's a good batman but not as good as the other two. 

Keaton figures out that the joker is the one who killed his parents based off of recollection. He figured out how joker was delivering the poison to the common people. Very good detective. Probably the most intellectual of the three. He's also a decent strategist but not as good as the other two. But he's very intimidating as batman, and the Burton series delves deeper into his psychology. Which is why he's my favorite. It shows that he's brilliant at hiding his secrets but will tend to slip. He's a lousy hand to hand combatant and the other two would slaughter him in combat, which is not part of the Batman mythos. But he naturally acts like Batman and is a very good Bruce Wayne. 

Affleck was a good detective as well. He broke into Lex's computer systems unnoticed and retrieved the information(which Wonder Woman promptly stole), figured out that Clark Kent was superman(which btw, it's a stupid disguise anyway. But the fact that he wasn't dumb enough to fall for it compared to everyone else), figured out that Kryptonite could kill superman(a fact that was never stated in the movie to the public. Only government officials figured that out. Batfleck had to figure it out) and was strategically brilliant in battle(even with Kryptonite he feasibly created a strategy that got him to a Kryptonite spear. Thus manipulating the battle into his favor). He's by far the best hand to hand combatant between the three of them, and would beat down both of them with his eyes closed. He's a comic book level fighter, meaning he'd pretty much mop the floor with any real life fighter. Closest thing we've seen to the comic book batman. But he doesn't get time as Bruce Wayne because Snyder is an idiot. But since I doubt Affleck's ability to pull off Bruce Wayne I'm not too upset with this. 

 

All three are great. Keaton is the most balanced, Affelck is the better batman, and Bale is better as Wayne. But just my opinion. Batfleck is the most effective in combat, Keaton the smartest, Bale is a good halfway house. 

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