[Blogs] Late for Work 1/19: Players Excited About Pagano Hire

[stixfix69]

Joe needs a OL, the man was sacked 49 times, and wrecked at least another 50 times after he released the ball, if he can't have time to throw a 15 yard out, he won't have a lot of success....We have all seen when Joe has time, he can throw with the best of them, but he can only do so much with 3 seconds to unload the ball, or be wrecked.....And he did make the best of it, and led us to a 12-4 record....Cam is on the hook for some really bad play calling, or lack of play calling ,but he can't be on the hook for protecting Flacco, that's on the OL......

[anonymousravenfan85]

[quote name='RayVN5227' timestamp='1295457025' post='617384']
annonymousravenfan
I know what you are saying and what I am saying is why didn't Bulger get some play time during the season? Then you would not have had a "rusty" QB. I am a big Flacco fan. It does, however seem that the Steelers get into his head easily. I thought that he overcame the jinx with the come from behind win in Pittsburgh in week 4. Yes, he is a work in progress and let's agree that the offensive line does little to help him out. Let's also agree that Cameron should give him the ability to audible, to see when teams throw 7-8 in the box, to be able to go from under center to a shot gun scenario and thus give him more time to find the open receiver. I also posted the infamous Houston Buffalo scenario when Frank Reich came in and turned things around and lead the Bills to a victory. Just saying, you never know what can happen if you don't try.
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Oh very true i dont doubt what your saying maybe there should be an open qb competion between flacco and bulger maybe spice things up get flacco to get some fire in his eyes and we should deff play bulger towards the end of the season to keep him fresh god forbid but the worst. Very true since we played the patriots i have said that cam cameron needs to go games like that we should have not lost conserative play calling made flacco look bad at times when you put him 3rd and 10 situations and when we have recievers that are short route, yards after catch recievers we cant burn anybody on streaks so we lose in the aspect if we took the attack of throwing short run short run to open up the deep ball we be more frieghting but cam cameron apparently doesnt see this and the fact our o-line which on paper is one of the best was god awful when we needed them to give flacco more then a second. but who knows all we can do is hope for next year for our offense to be what it should have been.

[RayVN5227]

josie749,
who is blaming Flacco for all the failures of the past three years? obviously you because I never said that,if I did, please point it out. Joe doesn't need confidence? Have you ever played team sports? just asking. I played many years of organized sports. Coaches have no reservations about taking a player out to let them regain composure. We all know about game plans and we all know, from reading these posts that the almighty arrogant one, Cam Cameron has his mindset and will not change anything. And, where did I ever say Flacco was not talented?

[Ravenous5286]

Flacco is fine where he is at does anyone forget that this was his 3rd year the guy is still learning and is progressing year after year so please enough of the "hang flacco" crap.

[PuRock]

We are turning into the Eagles. Three straight playoff appearances and we spend all of our time talking about who to fire and who sucks.

NFL is a hard sport to win.

[RayVN5227]

annonymous, AMEN!
Just look at what Flacco did in KC, when in trouble he ran, and was effective.Let's hope they get the O line straight and hope that if Cameron is back that he is given the ultimatum to get his act together and stop being stubborn and let Flacco loose. All football people have said the man has talent and the majority of us will agree with that.

[PuRock]

[quote name='RayVN5227' timestamp='1295458070' post='617400']
annonymous, AMEN!
Just look at what Flacco did in KC, when in trouble he ran, and was effective.Let's hope they get the O line straight and hope that if Cameron is back that he is given the ultimatum to get his act together and stop being stubborn and let Flacco loose. All football people have said the man has talent and the majority of us will agree with that.
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Yep. Fix the O-line, Fix our offense. It's really that simple. Even with Cam's bad play-calling, if he did it behind a good O-Line, it would be sufficient.

[rayrayisabeast]

Flacco was responsible for a 12-4 record during the regular season, and 1-1 in the playoffs. Yet people think Bulger should have played?! I just don't get it.

Ravens fans don't forget where you came from. We went from Kyle Boller to a young 3 year player that has set almost every franchise QB record we have. How many times has Peyton Manning been to the playoffs and failed? All but one. Did anyone see how nervous and flustered Tom Brady was verse the Jets? I am not saying he is better then those two, but give the kid a break.

We have a great QB, please support him!!!!

[MsMarvel73]

Come on, Mr. B. You HAVE GOT to know how unhappy most of Ravens Nation is with Cam after this season. I understand that the uncertain labor business might complicate things, but come on....

[RayVN5227]

[quote name='stixfix69' timestamp='1295457577' post='617392']
Joe needs a OL, the man was sacked 49 times, and wrecked at least another 50 times after he released the ball, if he can't have time to throw a 15 yard out, he won't have a lot of success....We have all seen when Joe has time, he can throw with the best of them, but he can only do so much with 3 seconds to unload the ball, or be wrecked.....And he did make the best of it, and led us to a 12-4 record....Cam is on the hook for some really bad play calling, or lack of play calling ,but he can't be on the hook for protecting Flacco, that's on the OL......
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BINGO! face it, he did not have time, in most instances to properly assess the field. Gaither was missed. It seems the o line wasn't getting off the line and pushing back but also Cam's play calling was a big factor. Let's also remember, Joe does not get the "Brady-Manning" calls.

[stixfix69]

And for all those calling on the FO to fire Cam, your barking up the wrong tree, we have a owner who allows the HC to decide who he wants, as it should be, and if Harbs wants to keep Cam, then he is on the hook for it.....If push came to shove, the FO could make Harbs do that, but thats not how we operate, the HC picks his staff, and 9 out of 10 times, the FO won't force him to pick, or release his asst, especially when he has produced playoff teams....If we were below .500 then drastic changes would be warranted...Really dislike Cam, but it is Harbs call.....

[Patricia_NC]

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Patricia_NC.. Harbaugh not fit for us? I don't understand what you're talking about. But Coach Harbaugh is definitely the best Coach for us. The City loves him too, maybe you didn't know that.
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Ok...I get your point. Maybe I worded it wrong. I like him too. He's a great guy but I'm soooo tired of hearing the same blah, blah, blah over and over. His recent comments about the team "exceeding expectations" this year really put me over the edge with him. My expectations for this team are Superbowl Championships. His aren't? Anything short of that, for me, is a disappointment. As a die hard fan....I stand behind my team 100% but when I start seeing things that make me uncertain of his committment....I question his fit. Does that make sense?

I want fire, drive, swagger, etc. I want a coach who is as passionate about this team as I am. I'm not seeing that from Harbaugh. I see it from Rex Ryan about HIS Jets! I really think that if Rex had stayed in Baltimore....he would have made this team better and we wouldn't have been knocked out of 3 consecutive championship bids.

[ruggerhead]

If we have Gaither fit next year we have a massive O line again, get rid or Cam, step up Zorn, he was awesome with the Seahawkes and their running game, Alexander was MVP. Cam is going to lose us our identity, we will lose McClain at FB because he only blocks,

[ruggerhead]

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A minute agoIf we have Gaither fit next year we have a massive O line again, get rid or Cam, step up Zorn, he was awesome with the Seahawkes and their running game, Alexander was MVP. Cam is going to lose us our identity, we will lose McClain at FB because he only blocks, lets go with the 3 headed monster of our 3 ex pro bowl running backs and that will open any receiver. Power football. Cam doesnt do that, and he doesn't do the spread offence either that beats the steelers, he is just not an ideal Raven

[Richmond_Raven]

let me get this straight peyton manning chokes in the playoffs and the biggest game of his career last season and nobody calls for his head. Flacco who didnt have a terrible game loses and people call for his head. He didnt allow ben to convert a 3rd and 19 and he wasnt the reason for all 3 turnovers so what is going on our receivers couldnt get open derrick masons age finally showed and the play calling just sucked even brian baldinger questions the play calling

[ruggerhead]

If we have Gaither fit next year we have a massive O line again, get rid or Cam, step up Zorn, he was awesome with the Seahawkes and their running game, Alexander was MVP. Cam is going to lose us our identity, we will lose McClain at FB because he only blocks, lets go with the 3 headed monster of our 3 ex pro bowl running backs and that will open any receiver. Power football. Cam doesnt do that, and he doesn't do the spread offence either that beats the steelers, he is just not an ideal Raven. Cam got run out of Miami because he was crap, a year later Ricky Williams and Ronnie Brown were awesome. He is making Joe's life hard. Not 1 player on offence in the pro bowl says it all, get rid of Cam and step up Zorn

[Patricia_NC]

[quote name='stixfix69' timestamp='1295459757' post='617438']
And for all those calling on the FO to fire Cam, your barking up the wrong tree, we have a owner who allows the HC to decide who he wants, as it should be, and if Harbs wants to keep Cam, then he is on the hook for it.....If push came to shove, the FO could make Harbs do that, but thats not how we operate, the HC picks his staff, and 9 out of 10 times, the FO won't force him to pick, or release his asst, especially when he has produced playoff teams....If we were below .500 then drastic changes would be warranted...Really dislike Cam, but it is Harbs call.....
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So if that's the way it rolls.....Ba Bye to Harbs too! I'm at the end of my rope with letting other teams off the hook. If our coach doesn't have the killer instinct this team and this town is all about....he's not the right guy for the job! 3 playoff appearances with no ring to show for it....SMH!!!

[B4LT1M0RE SON]

@Ravens804, The only reason Peyton didnt get any blame is because he has already "proven" himself and Joe has not, however i agree that Joe is most deffinitely not the reason why we lost that last game, Boldin should have caught that TD, thats why we picked him up! and housh shouldve caught that pass too. Its funny how supposedly we had the best receiving corpse in the league, but they didnt catch when we needed them to.

[AZ Ravens Fan]

I think when all is considered over time Cam will be asked to leave. Remember a few years back when owner Steve said Billick will be back and then changed his mind. If we can all see the faults of the offense fall squarely on Cam then ultimately management will see the same thing! Coach Harbaugh probably cannot be objective now due to personal feelings.

[balfan23]

Baltimore Son - Oh dude... receiving "corpse" ... a Freudian slip if I've ever seen one!

[B4LT1M0RE SON]

wow mybad haha. ive been sick for the past few days so im not all there right now, i think everyone knows what i meant. haha

[SuRihtanil]

He sounds like he is going to make a good defensive coordinator.

[shuga ray 52]

Flacco has alot of maturing to do but imo i beleive he will eventually come through,hes not the one calling a run on 3rd n 15! unless we get an aggresive oc with alot of football iq we will not beat the steelers strait up and more importantly thae players have to beleive and relate to you, he has lost the confidence of alot of players! ps chuck was imo a great move!

[RandomFan12]

I can't stand how many people hate Flacco. It's ridiculous. The guy has led his team to the playoffs in all three of his first years as an NFL quarterback. Only three other QBs have ever done that. Plus, with the win against KC, he became the first QB to ever WIN a playoff game in each of his first three seasons. And he's done it all on the road! If that's not impressive, I don't know what is. Give Flacco credit! He's a great QB! I agree that he hasn't quite gotten to the point where he actually CONTROLS games (it's hard to do that when your O-line lets you get knocked down so often). But I believe he will get there. No doubt about it. Buff up our O-line, and you'll see Flacco shine.

[RandomFan12]

And that whole "3 playoff appearances with no Super Bowl title to show for it" crap...wow. Would you rather us be 0-16? Just because we get to the playoffs doesn't mean we should automatically get the title. There are, in fact, other good teams out there. And we are a very good team too. Not getting a ring doesn't mean you're a bad team.

[mec15]

Congrats to Coach Pagano on his promotion. As you said "Let's go out and wreak havoc."

Go Ravens!!

[ravenswewt]

Lol that last post about marc bulger was hilarious i mean sierously?!??! what did he base that on the many terrible seasons in seattle, the six throws he had in the pre-season, or the fact that Joe Flacco had the best statistical season of his career... just more over-reaction from fans that think they know everything

[raven410]

@RandomFan12- I'm with you brother!

[ravenswewt]

sry st louis not seattle

[Zeus]

Please fire cam, our d line is good. Why are they overlooking the obvious?