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  1. 1. Should the front office keep Cam Cameron around for the 2011-2012 season?

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Cam isn't great and I've complained about him all year. He didn't call the best game in the world but, to me, when it mattered most the plays were there and the players didn't pull through. Choke city.
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The play calling got conservative in the 2nd half but still
Cam did not turn the ball over three times in the second half!!!

Rice fumble,Flacco pick and Birk mind boggling snap against his leg cost us the game.

A disgrace!!!!!
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3 things.

Poor 2nd half execution by our WRs.
Cameron taking what the D gave him and kept lining up in stupid stupid STUPID run/I formations in the 2nd half.
Referees had a big part of the game for both teams. Not gonna get into that though. If ya blame the Refs, ya know we didn't play good enough to win.

Oh and Way to not play David Reed or Donte Stallworth on offense. the ONLY 2 guys that have any speed. At least Housh got open a few times, just our WRs couldn't even catch a cold.
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I agree its time to let Cameron go, he doesn't take all the blame from this game but he has had a terrible year as our OC, when all we can do in the second half is score a field goal while the steelers got 3 TD's and a field goal, things have to change. Yes Webb should have had that punt return TD, Boldin should have had that end zone TD and Housh should have had that first down catch, but it didnt happen and we lost with only 3 points in the entire second half.

Also Boldin was not a factor in that game at all.
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Lots of dropped balls by the WRs but Cam was still the same old Cam. Conservative city in the 2nd half. It is time he and the Ravens parted ways.

And Mattison can go right behind him. We're getting to Ben easily and on every single 3rd and long Mattison rushed 3 allowing them to convert. IMO this loss is more on him than Cam.
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A lot of problems on offense today, don't know if the play-calling was one of them.

Poor ball control by Rice, poor decisions by Flacco, poor snap by Birk, poor offensive line blocking all game long.
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Wasnt Cams fault today, Cam actually called a pretty good game, the Oline crapped itself to epic proportions in the 2nd half like none other. Cam was pretty brutal during the middle/end of the season, but today was not on him. Boldin dropped a TD pass that hits him in the chest, Flacco overthrows a wide open Heap on the last drive, how about Webb on 3rd AND ********* 20!!!!
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Sorry this game is not Camerons fault our players choked and the officating sucked.

1 Drop by Boldin

1 Drop by Housh

2 by Heap

Missed call(headbutt by Ike Taylor)

Punt Return for TD (holding by marcus smith)

**********all terrible critcal calls
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Cam Cameron did a great job of revamping the offense and turning it into a scoring offense. However, sometimes, it's just better to move on. Three years was a good enough run. If he stays one more year, I won't be angry, but it'll be his last shot.
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[quote name='funky141' timestamp='1295140254' post='606771']
Is it Cam faught TJ doesn't catch a pass?
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No. But it IS Cam's fault that we run stale plays that are easily read by the defense and that he went to that Rice, Rice oh 3rd and long?? Let's put Flacco in a no win situation, again.
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[quote name='funky141' timestamp='1295140254' post='606771']
Is it Cam faught TJ doesn't catch a pass?
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No but he had an entire second half to work with and could only put 3 points up to show for it. In that same second half the Steelers had 3 TD's and a field goal, sure we had terrible turn overs but still uncalled for.
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[quote name='funky141' timestamp='1295140254' post='606771']
Is it Cam faught TJ doesn't catch a pass?
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No. But it's Cam's fault we called an unbelievably predictable game. When I can sit on my couch and call "this is a run, this is a screen, this is a run, checkdown, going deep, this is a run"... then Cam needs to go.

If we don't fire Cam... I might change my password and forget it.
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[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1295140387' post='606786']
Wasnt Cams fault today, Cam actually called a pretty good game, the Oline crapped itself to epic proportions in the 2nd half like none other. Cam was pretty brutal during the middle/end of the season, but today was not on him. Boldin dropped a TD pass that hits him in the chest, Flacco overthrows a wide open Heap on the last drive, how about Webb on 3rd AND ********* 20!!!!
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That isn't on Webb. Mattison kept dialing up that 3 man rush on every single 3rd and long play. Giving Ben all the time in the world. You can only cover a guy so long. Same old story. Our secondary takes the hit when it is Mattison and his stupid 3 man rush.
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It wasn't Cam's fault the players failed to execute in numerous ways in the second half but his predictable play-calling reared it's ugly head again. I didn't see the designed slants, crossing routes we saw last week. The one deep shot was to Mason(not the deep threat the front office signed in the off-season). It's time to bring in someone else.
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How hard is it to keep your foot on the petal. I hate him so much more now. Anyone also notice how passes in the middle were working perfectly and he only did it twice. [i]<deleted>[/i]
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Yeah totally agree[quote name='20ravens52' timestamp='1295140425' post='606792']
Sorry this game is not Camerons fault our players choked and the officating sucked.
1 Drop by Boldin
1 Drop by Housh
2 by Heap
Missed call(headbutt by Ike Taylor)
Punt Return for TD (holding by marcus smith)

**********all terrible critcal calls
[/quote]
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I thought you guys had us due to simple "providence" being on you guys side. "Whoever" your O-Coordinator is just did not get those guys ready... and it showed. My girlfriend can call better plays on Madden... But I think next year, Flacco gets his win over Ben... I just got that feeling... good game...
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Terrible coaching and playing. You know, i dont mind losing, but in this fashion thats all i can take. 21-7 half fellas, to get out coached again in the second is inexcusable. Heads will roll Matty and cam and harbaugh is on a short leash also. I can't stand watching games like this------- embarrassing!!!!!!!
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[b]What truly lost this game was 3 horrible turnovers and utter destruction of our pass protection.[/b] The players left a lot of good plays on the field as well and the penalties on BOTH teams were mostly bad, period.

That said, Cam does need to go. His play-calling is just either predictable, too "cutesy," and just flat out doesn't take complete advantage of his personnel. And those qualities just simply didn't help out matters on the field. I really would like to see what another offensive coordinator can do with these players. The 3 man rush on the 3rd and very long was really only Matty's miscue in my opinion, especially after seeing what LeBeau did in a similar situation a minute later by bringing 4+ rushers. That is really about all I have to say about this season as it has ended in such a disappointing manner for everyone involved. I look forward to conversing in threads about the draft and the 2011 season (if we have one :rolleyes: ).
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[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1295140647' post='606836']
It wasn't Cam's fault the players failed to execute in numerous ways in the second half but his predictable play-calling reared it's ugly head again. I didn't see the designed slants, crossing routes we saw last week. The one deep shot was to Mason(not the deep threat the front office signed in the off-season). It's time to bring in someone else.
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This. This. This.

A lot of issues need to be addressed this offseason if were going to make it to the next level.
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You can say it was the turnovers in the second half that cost us but we scored 14 points in the first half off of turnovers and they scored 17 off of our 3 turnovers, so we still lost even if you take away there field goal, and they also missed a field goal. Cam Cameron just couldn't get a drive going for a TD that was more than 50 yards this game while the steelers could, bad play calling.
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[quote name='SteelerEmpire' timestamp='1295140719' post='606851']
I thought you guys had us due to simple "providence" being on you guys side. "Whoever" your O-Coordinator is just did not get those guys ready... and it showed. My girlfriend can call better plays on Madden... But I think next year, Flacco gets his win over Ben... I just got that feeling... good game...
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Congrats on your win. I'd wish you luck next week but it would be a lie. Certain members of your team exposed themselves as the cheap shot artists they are tonight. I probably just won't watch at all and become an NFC fan for the SB since I can't stand either the Pats or Jets.

Be sure to thank Triplett and the crew for their turning the other way as well.
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