Confirmed: Chuck Pagano Named Ravens Defensive Coordinator

[berad]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1295398085' post='616421']
Anyways, lets get back on topic.

Does he run an aggressive on conservative D?
3-4 or 4-3?
Does anyone know his philosophy?
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I believe he's 3-4. Of course, this is his first time as a DC but the ones he's worked under, before, have mostly been 3-4 at the NFL level. We won't know his aggression-level until the season begins but if I had to take a clue from our secondary play, he's not conservative.

[Twoo]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1295398085' post='616421']
Anyways, lets get back on topic.

Does he run an aggressive on conservative D?
3-4 or 4-3?
Does anyone know his philosophy?
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http://twitter.com/RavensInsider

Apparently everyone on the face of the earth is saying he's a HIGHLY aggressive coordinator and expect a lot of blitzing.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='berad' timestamp='1295398289' post='616430']
I believe he's 3-4. Of course, this is his first time as a DC but the ones he's worked under, before, have mostly been 3-4 at the NFL level. We won't know his aggression-level until the season begins but if I had to take a clue from our secondary play, [b]he's not conservative.[/b]
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Let's hope so.......

[theFRANCHISE]

Congrats to both Coach Mattison and Coach Pagano for their respective career opportunities.

However, this likely spells another transition year for the defense next season. Every coordinator switch has growing pains, no matter how effective the coordinator. I've pulled the numbers time and again, but even though the Ravens defense ranked well between defensive coordinators at the end of the season, there were plenty of rough patches.

We'll just have to be patient as fans and hope for the best for the defense.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1295397100' post='616371']
Watch how much easier coverage is with proper pressure. You and ed reed 20 must be friends all yall do is positive rep each other and comment on everyone's post that the other has commented on. Must be nice to have a fan base. lol
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Yes because simply blitzing is the be all end all of defense. Did you ever watch Sean McDermotts defense in Philadelphia, I suggest you take a look.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='Twoo' timestamp='1295398298' post='616432']
http://twitter.com/RavensInsider

Apparently everyone on the face of the earth is saying he's a HIGHLY aggressive coordinator and expect a lot of blitzing.
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That sounds wonderful.....just hearing it made me realize that we have 8 months until the next season (hopefully).

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='berad' timestamp='1295398000' post='616418']
What's the difference between a "predictable" play and a fundamental play? Execution. A prevent defense is designed to stop just that throw. Webb and Landry did not do their jobs correctly, it has nothing to do with Mattison's call.
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Prevent D will always break down if you give a Qb time to throw. That play took a while to develop but you get that time from a lack of a pass rush. Sure Landry and Webb blew their coverage, but covering speedy receivers for that long is a tall order. Not to mention they would have gotten the first anyway because they called a penalty on the play just in case the Steelers didn't get it. So who cares.

[JO_75]

[quote name='Twoo' timestamp='1295398298' post='616432']
http://twitter.com/RavensInsider

Apparently everyone on the face of the earth is saying he's a HIGHLY aggressive coordinator and expect a lot of blitzing.
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Good! This is what I want, more blitzing and more rushing the passer, just hope Kindle will be able to play next season.

[RedFire]

[quote name='berad' timestamp='1295398000' post='616418']
What's the difference between a "predictable" play and a fundamental play? Execution. A prevent defense is designed to stop just that throw. Webb and Landry did not do their jobs correctly, it has nothing to do with Mattison's call.
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exactly. not like it was 3rd and 10. you shouldn't be getting beat with that type of cushion. it was the DB's fault cuz the wideout got behind the coverage. Do people think DB's are slow and need the pass rush not to get beat by a simple streak/fly pattern.

[hawkprey]

I really hope he likes to bring the heat. An underrated observation about our defense is that they play significantly better when they're not tired. Blitzing would keep them at their peak performance level because either it stops the drive or leads to a big play (therefore reducing the possible number of first downs). But if the D is fresh, there's a smaller chance they'll give up a big play. (Ever notice how those long bombs to a WR only happen late in the game after the offense struggles? Cincy, Pittsburgh, Carolina even?)

[berad]

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1295398544' post='616443']
Prevent D will always break down if you give a Qb time to throw. That play took a while to develop but you get that time from a lack of a pass rush. Sure Landry and Webb blew their coverage, but covering speedy receivers for that long is a tall order. Not to mention they would have gotten the first anyway because they called a penalty on the play just in case the Steelers didn't get it. So who cares.
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[color="#0000FF"][color="#4B0082"][url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WflVvKbk454"][/color]The ball was out of Bens' hands in three seconds[/url][/color]. THREE SECONDS. That's not "too long" to cover a receiver, that's actually a pretty short amount of time.

And, yes, they called a penalty. It was another lapse by the secondary. Or did Mattison call that, too?

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1295398448' post='616439']
Yes because simply blitzing is the be all end all of defense. Did you ever watch Sean McDermotts defense in Philadelphia, I suggest you take a look.
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i wouldn't suggest an all out blitz on a third and 19 but a lil pressure from somewhere may have yielded better results. That of course is easier to say now seeing how the play didn't work.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1295398544' post='616443']
Prevent D will always break down if you give a Qb time to throw. That play took a while to develop but you get that time from a lack of a pass rush. Sure Landry and Webb blew their coverage, but covering speedy receivers for that long is a tall order. Not to mention they would have gotten the first anyway because they called a penalty on the play just in case the Steelers didn't get it. So who cares.
[/quote]
See, you just lose even more credibility .....

8:05 mark
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?xl=xl_blazer&v=6A2loeMwcqk

Ben got the ball in 3 seconds....it did not take long to develop as you say. It was a execution issue, not the call.

Man, this is tiring!

[RedFire]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1295398666' post='616449']
Good! This is what I want, more blitzing and more rushing the passer, just hope Kindle will be able to play next season.
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you know good QB's like to be blitzed often cuz it's less people in coverage. rex ryan finally learned blitzing aint the end all be all...and a 4man rush has to get it done sometimes.

i think mattison improved this year and mastered timely and effective blitzes.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='berad' timestamp='1295398766' post='616455']
[color="#0000FF"][color="#4B0082"][url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WflVvKbk454"][/color]The ball was out of Bens' hands in three seconds[/url][/color]. THREE SECONDS. That's not "too long" to cover a receiver, that's actually a pretty short amount of time.

And, yes, they called a penalty. It was another lapse by the secondary. Or did Mattison call that, too?
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man, I just took the time to post the same damn thing.....ha

[berad]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1295399066' post='616467']
man, I just took the time to post the same damn thing.....ha
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LOL, saw that. I don't know how many times you can prove someone wrong until they admit it.

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1295398974' post='616463']
See, you just lose even more credibility .....

8:05 mark
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?xl=xl_blazer&v=6A2loeMwcqk

Ben got the ball in 3 seconds....it did not take long to develop as you say. It was a execution issue, not the call.

Man, this is tiring!
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Actually about 4 sec, and credibility on here is way over rated my man. I play football i don't really like all the back and forth with the who's right and who's wrong. If there is a point to be made make it. 3 man blitzes got the man replaced. Where there are certain situations this may have been a decent playcall clearly this was not one of them. Not to mention, that it wears your stud lineman down as they are forced to play against double teams.....

[RedFire]

they only say prevent defenses are bad cuz they give up first downs on a last minute drive cuz you can pick up 10 yards with everyone deep. The ravens got burned in a prevent over 20 yards which is not how you execute the play.

[EnVy_CaLiBeR]

Well if he is aggressive, this makes adding more pass rushers even more important.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1295399320' post='616476']
Actually about 4 sec, and credibility on here is way over rated my man. I play football i don't really like all the back and forth with the who's right and who's wrong. If there is a point to be made make it. 3 man blitzes got the man replaced. Where there are certain situations this may have been a decent playcall clearly this was not one of them. Not to mention, that it wears your stud lineman down as they are forced to play against double teams.....
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You keep mentioning that you play football, that's great, but it means absolutely nothing. I played for 12 years and I don't go around broadcasting it (until now, to you). It was 3 seconds, that's not even debatable. Get a stop watch, use the the youtube ticker or whatever you want to use, but the bottom line is it was 3 seconds and the coverage was out of position. Im tired of this, so im going to step out. Good luck with your play and stay healthy....its a rough sport.

Edit - if you don't see the point being made, I don't know what more to tell you, as its plain as day.

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='berad' timestamp='1295398766' post='616455']
[color="#0000FF"][color="#4B0082"][url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WflVvKbk454"][/color]The ball was out of Bens' hands in three seconds[/url][/color]. THREE SECONDS. That's not "too long" to cover a receiver, that's actually a pretty short amount of time.

And, yes, they called a penalty. It was another lapse by the secondary. Or did Mattison call that, too?
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Why isn't this great play caller still here coach? Oh, because of the great play calls he has made. Im sure if the Ravens wanted to retain him and his services they could have done so. Yet hell be in Michigan this year. As an all pro D coordinator.

[ravensfan2424]

It is good to know that he is for heavily blitzing and the fact that he is a great secondary coach can maybe help him know when to use coverage as well

[EnVy_CaLiBeR]

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1295399738' post='616493']
Why isn't this great play caller still here coach? Oh, because of the great play calls he has made. Im sure if the Ravens wanted to retain him and his services they could have done so. Yet hell be in Michigan this year. As an all pro D coordinator.
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It was clearly his decision to leave and he did so on his own power. He has history with Michigan so he obviously chose to go back to it.

[berad]

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1295399738' post='616493']
Why isn't this great play caller still here coach? Oh, because of the great play calls he has made. Im sure if the Ravens wanted to retain him and his services they could have done so. Yet hell be in Michigan this year. As an all pro D coordinator.
[/quote]

Mattison was always a college coach, that's where his heart was. I'm not saying he was perfect or even "great" just that, in that instance, he made the correct call. The resulting conversion was not his fault, it was an execution issue. If you fail to recognize that, I don't know what to tell you.

You're obviously just changing the argument, now, because your side has been beaten to a pulp.

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1295399590' post='616487']
You keep mentioning that you play football, that's great, but it means absolutely nothing. I played for 12 years and I don't go around broadcasting it (until now, to you). It was 3 seconds, that's not even debatable. Get a stop watch, use the the youtube ticker or whatever you want to use, but the bottom line is it was 3 seconds and the coverage was out of position. Im tired of this, so im going to step out. Good luck with your play and stay healthy....its a rough sport.

Edit - if you don't see the point being made, I don't know what more to tell you, as its plain as day.
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You played 12 years where? I only broadcast it because as a player of the game people commenting like they know the game better is really annoying. I don't mean just playing football, i played the game on all levels even the NFl. So don't act like i through that in your face unless you and your buddies say something that i clearly have more information about.

[RedFire]

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1295399738' post='616493']
Why isn't this great play caller still here coach? Oh, because of the great play calls he has made. Im sure if the Ravens wanted to retain him and his services they could have done so. Yet hell be in Michigan this year. As an all pro D coordinator.
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u realize being a college coach or coordinator is very respectable outside of the northeast bubble. lots of people treat college football like we do the ravens.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='EnVy_CaLiBeR' timestamp='1295400019' post='616517']
It was clearly his decision to leave and he did so on his own power. He has history with Michigan so he obviously chose to go back to it.
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Yes, this is correct....some are reading this incorrectly as though Mattison was let go or fired.

[Irish Girl]

The wrong coordinator left!! But, I am excited to see how he does with our defense.

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='berad' timestamp='1295400020' post='616518']
Mattison was always a college coach, that's where his heart was. I'm not saying he was perfect or even "great" just that, in that instance, he made the correct call. The resulting conversion was not his fault, it was an execution issue. If you fail to recognize that, I don't know what to tell you.

You're obviously just changing the argument, now, because your side has been beaten to a pulp.
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We argued so long i forgot what the argument was about. Oh yeah 3rd and 19 calling a prevent. How come the refs where in better position to make the play then the players. You had two corners on the opposite side of the field covering noone. That is why we got fried and he is now coaching where his heart is.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1295400078' post='616521']
You played 12 years where? I only broadcast it because as a player of the game people commenting like they know the game better is really annoying. I don't mean just playing football, i played the game on all levels even the NFl. So don't act like i through that in your face unless you and your buddies say something that i clearly have more information about.
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Well, if we must go there, aside from through grade school, I played 4 years (varsity) at John Carroll in Harford County and 2 years at Towson (played basketball as well). I then transferred to UMBC and continued playing D1 lacrosse, so I know plently about competitive sports.

I didn't act like you threw it in my face, you just happen to feel it necessary to mention in every other post.