Assuming There Is No Lockout, What Is Our #1 Priority In 2011?

[ryan23945]

same thing as last year, cornerback

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='ryan23945' timestamp='1295240839' post='611869']
same thing as last year, cornerback
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I'd still rank the pass rush above CB. Having only one consistent pass rush in today's NFL isn't going to get you anywhere.

You need a dynamic duo of some kind. Just look at the four teams left in the play-offs The Steelers have two capable pass rusher while the Jets have to top-notch CBs.

The Packers have to quality CBs while the Bears have the best defensive end in the league and a host of capable pass rushers to complement him.

[Scotty410bmore]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1295240480' post='611858']
Your argument does not hold water. Your argument can't even hold air because it's virtually hollow. I asked you to provide examples of games where Foxworth caused the Ravens to lose and you failed to do that. You brought up a game where he wasn't beat for a significant gain once and another person backed me up on that. I've asked you to provide video evidence of a play where he was beat by Rice and you have been unable to do so. He was beat in two other games you brought up a few times but as I said, not the main reason the Ravens lost.

You're entitled to believe Foxworth will let the team down when he returns next season(assuming there's football) and that he played poorly all last season but don't blatantly lie and then childishly write "lol" when you have no evidence to back your claims.
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why are you guys so focused on "lol" thats irrelevant..first im childish, then im an idiot, and so on..ok ill find some video of Foxworth..i wish he was a Elite corner because he's in Purple and Black..I root for the Ravens, not certain players..lets be clear i hope Foxworth proves me wrong but we need to cut Houshmanzadeh, Stallworth, Mcgahee, and many more..its the offseason!! If youre a true Ravens fan you're okay with me but debate is part of the offseason..ill be back ill show you Foxworth Vs. the Bengals and Colts

[1/28/01]

[quote name='Scotty410bmore' timestamp='1295241292' post='611888']
why are you guys so focused on "lol" thats irrelevant..first im childish, then im an idiot, and so on..ok ill find some video of Foxworth..i wish he was a Elite corner because he's in Purple and Black..I root for the Ravens, not certain players..lets be clear i hope Foxworth proves me wrong but we need to cut Houshmanzadeh, Stallworth, Mcgahee, and many more..its the offseason!! If youre a true Ravens fan you're okay with me but debate is part of the offseason..ill be back ill show you Foxworth Vs. the Bengals and Colts
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Cut McGahee? Okay, I'm convinced, you're just messing with us...

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Scotty410bmore' timestamp='1295241292' post='611888']
why are you guys so focused on "lol" thats irrelevant..first im childish, then im an idiot, and so on..ok ill find some video of Foxworth..i wish he was a Elite corner because he's in Purple and Black..I root for the Ravens, not certain players..lets be clear i hope Foxworth proves me wrong but we need to cut Houshmanzadeh, Stallworth, Mcgahee, and many more..its the offseason!! If youre a true Ravens fan you're okay with me but debate is part of the offseason..ill be back ill show you Foxworth Vs. the Bengals and Colts
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What about the video of Foxworth getting burnt by Rice? Where's that video?

[ryan23945]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1295241236' post='611882']
I'd still rank the pass rush above CB. Having only one consistent pass rush in today's NFL isn't going to get you anywhere.

You need a dynamic duo of some kind. Just look at the four teams left in the play-offs The Steelers have two capable pass rusher while the Jets have to top-notch CBs.

The Packers have to quality CBs while the Bears have the best defensive end in the league and a host of capable pass rushers to complement him.
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well im pretty sure our pass rush did not lose us the game against the steelers, our cb flaws were alot more noticeable, and its pretty obvious to me that we need to build a team that can beat the steelers, ben will b ben, hes gonna have some leval of escapability, and when he does get away from it, we need the coverage down field.

and if its peppers u name as the best d end in the game, id hardly call him that, he cracks the top ten for linemen(and thats just ends) in only 2 categories, pass deflections and forced fumbles, and his ff total is only 3, sizzle is essentially a d end, just cuz we play a 3-4, besides he lines up on the line more often than not,

sizzle and jj r capable pass rushers, if, and ill admit thats its an iff, kindle pans out thats a plus, add gnata to that, when we play a 3-4 ur gonna give up some pass rush, but i would rate that higher than our corner play in the game that mattered the most, our dbs forced no turnovers and accounted for 1.5 of the 6 sacks

my vote, foxworth get healthy, somehow aquire nnamdi, wilson webb as a nickels/dimes/backups, and actually draft a db or 2, draft an end 2 what the hay, but pick up the secondary

all that being said, u know that thearoy that the game boils down to 1 or 2 big plays that decide it, well if u think about that game, the only big plays i can think of for the pass rush r positives, with the corners, well, the exact opposite

[Varcilla]

i'd say need to look at either the offensive playbook or OC and spread the ball and have joe be able to call more audibles at the line of scrimmage. kids a sitting duck out there, it really shows when we face a heavy pass rush. football position wise though I'd have to say a RT. Need to get more protection on that side. Oher has his mistakes on the blindside, but he comes through.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='ryan23945' timestamp='1295252923' post='612126']
well im pretty sure our pass rush did not lose us the game against the steelers, our cb flaws were alot more noticeable, and its pretty obvious to me that we need to build a team that can beat the steelers, ben will b ben, hes gonna have some leval of escapability, and when he does get away from it, we need the coverage down field.

and if its peppers u name as the best d end in the game, id hardly call him that, he cracks the top ten for linemen(and thats just ends) in only 2 categories, pass deflections and forced fumbles, and his ff total is only 3, sizzle is essentially a d end, just cuz we play a 3-4, besides he lines up on the line more often than not,

sizzle and jj r capable pass rushers, if, and ill admit thats its an iff, kindle pans out thats a plus, add gnata to that, when we play a 3-4 ur gonna give up some pass rush, but i would rate that higher than our corner play in the game that mattered the most, our dbs forced no turnovers and accounted for 1.5 of the 6 sacks

my vote, foxworth get healthy, somehow aquire nnamdi, wilson webb as a nickels/dimes/backups, and actually draft a db or 2, draft an end 2 what the hay, but pick up the secondary

all that being said, u know that thearoy that the game boils down to 1 or 2 big plays that decide it, well if u think about that game, the only big plays i can think of for the pass rush r positives, with the corners, well, the exact opposite
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But let's be honest, 3 of the Ravens' 6 sacks came off herculean efforts by Suggs. There is still no other legitimate pass rusher the Ravens have besides him. A big reason the Steelers have often dominated the Ravens' offense, especially in the recent meetings is because of Harrison and Woodley alone.

If you don't think Peppers is a top 3 DE after the season he's had, not so much statistically but impact-wise, I don't know what to tell you.

J.J. is a capable pass rusher and yet he recorded 1.5 the entire season -- play-offs included. Kindle is a giant question mark right now.

Signing Asomugha sounds great but I've come to the conclusion it makes little sense and won't happen. There are a good number of contenders who will have more money to throw at him than than the Ravens(the Eagles being one), and the Ravens themselves have a good number of people they need to take care of before thinking about high-priced FAs.

The CBs made some big plays Saturday night. The biggest one came off a CB not being in position but for the most part, I'd say they played relatively well.

[dirtybird10]

[quote name='Ed_Reed_Pick_Six' timestamp='1295179216' post='608989']
I'd say it depends largely on the aforementioned areas.

It depends who we lose to free agency or in some cases, retirement. Once it's more apparent who is and isn't coming back, we will get a better idea for what to do - particularly defensively.

As for the offence, either commit to Cam early (which personally, I'm not for); or hire a new guy and get an idea of the scheme he wants to run, so we can draft players who fit the scheme.

I'd like us to address our corner depth, improve our offensive line, and possibly acquire another receiver. Mason is likely done, Houshmandzadeh will not be back, and we really need someone to stretch the field. I like Stallworth and David Reed, but I wouldn't rely on those two opposite Boldin. One thing is certain, we need more speed!

Also, how soon do we want to draft another MLB? As much as we love the great man, #52 will be a little bit slower, and his influence on a talented young linebacker could be immense for our future prospects.

I'll keep my post relatively concise given all the uncertainties, but just some earlu thoughts.
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Well put, I would go as far as to say we may have our speed guys already here if we can resign Stallworth. Between him and David Reed, we should be fine on speed, the problem is... we need to USE THEM! Drafting another receiver would be great if we don't have other options that really need addressing. Whether it be a guy with some size or alot of speed, we need someone as our #1 or #2 guy opposite Boldin like you said.

[dirtybird10]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1295241458' post='611894']
Cut McGahee? Okay, I'm convinced, you're just messing with us...
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Isnt McGahee still under contract?

[DrMoonTooth]

I think our biggest priority is re-signing some of our core guys. I personally would at least like to see Ngata, Wilson, Gaither, Landry, and possibly L. McClain back.

-If we have Ngata, Cody, Redding, and Gregg (assuming he doesn't retire...?) I think our core D-Line will be fine (although I'd love to see a stud Defensive End, but that's not a priority). Next year we'll likely see a Gregg to Cody transition, though.

-I also think that Foxworth, Wilson, Webb, and Carr (if we choose to keep him) would be an above average group of Cornerbacks.

-Gaither I would love to see back simply because it would solve the bulk of our O-Line issues. Moving Oher to RT, Gaither back to LT, and finally being able to keep Yanda at RG would give us a relatively solid Line. Also, don't forget about Ramon Harewood. I still really like him as a back-up if he can be developed. The only issue I see left is Birk retiring soon, making Center a definite position to monitor in this year's draft.

-As far as our Receivers go, we definitely need some help. Reed blossoming is possible, but is it reliable? With that in mind, I think WR is another position to really keep an eye on for the draft. Mason could retire and I'm not sure I (or Ozzie and Steve) want Houshmanzadeh back. Stallworth could be brought back depending on how much money he asks for.

-We should definitely bring back Kindle. Our pass rush needs bolstering for sure, and I see no reason to let go of our first pick from last year's draft, especially when he'll require next to nothing contract-wise.

-Finally, I think it would be smart to start eyeing Linebackers to learn from Ray Lewis. If we could draft one either this year or next year, it would be to our benefit to do so. A guy with all the athletic ability could gain all the intangibles to be a great MLB from Ray.

Overall, I think we could come out of this offseason fine. I've seen posts about rebuilding and whatnot, but I don't think it necessary has to be that kind of season next year. We just have to bring the right guys back and let Ozzie work his magic in the draft...not to mention any free agent signings we may make.