Flacco's Demeanor

[berad]

If Joe Flacco danced, slapped butts, looked at butts, talked about the feel of his [foot]balls, and told jokes more often, he would be a better quarterback...

[charles1712]

brad go back to your room and play your video games

[berad]

[quote name='charles1712' timestamp='1294377683' post='595197']
brad go back to your room and play your video games
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I'm fresh out.

Fact is, it doesn't matter how entertaining Joe Flacco is. If he can lead the team, throw touchdowns, and help us win games he's a damn good quarterback in my book. His teammates seem to like and believe in him and that's more than enough for me.

[HarleypsychRN]

That outburst at the refs in the Saints game was the changing point for me. I see the fire this guy has to win. The celebration after throwing the touchdown to TJ in the first Steeler game as well.

[ItFigurs16]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1294343506' post='594752']
No Peyton Manning is a great QB because he does funny commercials and hosts Saturday NIght Live. Duh, thats why Flacco will never be great lol [img]http://boards.baltimoreravens.com/public/style_emoticons/default/34853_shakehead.GIF[/img]
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They should let Kyle Boller host SNL. He had a more comical NFL career then Peyton did.

[Jabara]

[quote name='charles1712' timestamp='1294319913' post='594507']
In today's Sun paper the column of Kevin Cowherd's, he hits the nail on the head about Joe Flacco and some of the fans . I said this before and I'll say it again it is truly amazing that a young OB strait out of college can come in and lead an NFL team to not one but three play offs in his first three years. And for those fans who wont Joe to be more of a Ra Ra guy . One little peace of information, a QBs job in the NFL is to lead with precise direction. He is not a cheer leader . Joe's demeanor is what you wont in a good QB. As for his production on the field it is only going to get better. A QB in the NFL is not something you throw into a micro wave oven and out pops NFL player of the year. A QB that comes strait out of college and leeds his NFL team to the supper bowl is exception not the rule .
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I wouldn't say it was Joe that got us to the playoffs, it's the team as a whole. I don't think QB's should get the credit for a win.
But, I have to say, having not studied under anyone, he's done a great job.

[quote name='Ravens549' timestamp='1294339281' post='594704']
I had a Pitts friend that went to the Steelers @ Baltimore game that on the way out a Ravens fan told him, "I wish we had your quarterback."
He was also surprised at how many of our fans throw Flacco under the bus and/or boo as soon as he does something wrong.

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Hey, this might sound crazy, but if we had Big Ben, we'd probably be a better team. Of course Ben has a lot more experience than Joe, so you can't really compare the two.
And this would be in a world were Ben isn't a nightmare off the field.
But once Joe grows up a bit footballwise, I think he'll be great, it's just going to take time, and possibly more time for Joe, having not studied under anyone like I mentioned before, plus coming from a smaller school.
He does have a lot to learn, and his apparent demeanor seems to be an asset, however he has been showing more emotion on the field, whether it's real and he's getting more comfortable or whether it's to shut up those that think he's a cold robotic corpse.
With Flacco it seems he doesn't really allow things to get to him, he appears to go out on each drive renewed and ready to go, and that can lead to being a very successful QB, and I see the potential in him.
I like Joe a lot, and I'm glad he's our QB, but he still has a lot of learning to do as it seems.
Maybe he'll turn it on in the playoffs, and hopefully Cam will give him some room.
Cam giving Joe some room will only build confidence in Joe, by keeping him on somewhat of a short leash, doesn't allow him to be himself, comfortable and confident.

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' timestamp='1294338749' post='594696']
Can you give me one reason why you're a Ravens fan? Every post you make is so negative
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Just stating the facts. People like me bring light to the dark. Ill praise the defense if that is what you want to hear but as far as me praising nonsense you won't see that. The reason we are so good is because of people like me telling the truth. Look at the clip again now what do you see?....... i thought so.

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1294334980' post='594636']
You can't be serious. The guy gets kneed in the head and you say it's a "weak hit"? QBs around the league get flags thrown in their favor on less contract and Joe is a "straight up wimp" for wanting a flag on that play? Please...
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Here we go again, that man pulled up before he hit him, and the contact was weak. Say what you want, i have seen cheerleaders hit harder by runaway players in high school, and get right up, no complaining, and continue cheering. Are you kidding me?

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='Clutch Ravens' timestamp='1294336484' post='594666']
Joe is from Jersey, the foul mouth shouldn't really surprise anyone...

As far as Joe being a "wimp" for complaining about being kneed in the head: say that to his 6'6" 240 lb face.
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Come on now really 6'6 240. wow must be nice, but im lmao right now. To his face laughing again. Nothing personal Joe just a lil off topic that's all.

[JoeCool#5]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1294320250' post='594509']
While I don't believe he lead us to the playoffs the first 2 seasons (managed games would be the better words), I do agree he did this year.

My problem is the hypocrites who will say Flacco lead us to the post season and that Sanchez is only there because of their defense..

I didn't know people still talked about Joe not being more vocal...especially after the Saints game.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiVL_ZdW51o&feature=related[/media]


Joe is doing great out of College. But for him to really reach his potential, Cam Cameron has to go and he needs to work on the simple stuff. Quicker releases, faster progressions, attacking the middle of the field.
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I agree with everything you said except the first part.
I dont know about Joe managed games in order to get the Ravens to the playoffs the first 2 years. Joe contributed just as every other player on the team. Each year, one win was the difference from getting to the playoffs and sitting on the couch. The team needed his TDs passes and his ability to avoid the sack and scramble for first downs. He help the team to achieve victory. Flacco had a greater impact on the season for he touched the ball more then any other player on the field. Have to admire the kid for he had every excuse in the world (3rd string to starter, Rookie QB, Sophomore slum, coming from a 1-AA school - Delaware and lack of talent at WR core)to under-achieve but he hasnt.

[berad]

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1294412374' post='595291']
Just stating the facts. People like me bring light to the dark. Ill praise the defense if that is what you want to hear but as far as me praising nonsense you won't see that. [b]The reason we are so good is because of people like me telling the truth.[/b] Look at the clip again now what do you see?....... i thought so.
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Right...

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1294412617' post='595294']
Here we go again, that man pulled up before he hit him, and the contact was weak. Say what you want, i have seen cheerleaders hit harder by runaway players in high school, and get right up, no complaining, and continue cheering. Are you kidding me?
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Doesn't matter how "weak" you think the contact was, or not. By the officials definition, it should have been a penalty. The Ravens weren't mad that Joe was hit illegally, just that the Saints weren't penalized, likewise.

[TheRavenouseD2008]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1294323104' post='594522']
He reminds me a lot of Kurt Warner...but with a foul mouth lol
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he hangs arround lewis enough that will change

[Alexir]

[quote name='JoeCool#5' timestamp='1294416273' post='595314']
I agree with everything you said except the first part.
I dont know about Joe managed games in order to get the Ravens to the playoffs the first 2 years. Joe contributed just as every other player on the team. Each year, one win was the difference from getting to the playoffs and sitting on the couch. The team needed his TDs passes and his ability to avoid the sack and scramble for first downs. He help the team to achieve victory. Flacco had a greater impact on the season for he touched the ball more then any other player on the field. Have to admire the kid for he had every excuse in the world (3rd string to starter, Rookie QB, Sophomore slum, coming from a 1-AA school - Delaware and lack of talent at WR core)to under-achieve but he hasnt.
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Well I understand where you are coming from but he really did just manage games. Which isn't a bad thing. Thats what we needed from him. We had a vicious defense and a hungry run game, rarely did the game come down to him having to air it out and bail us out. Obviously he is important to our team now and then but I just hate it when people say "Flacco took us to the playoffs".

[flynismo]

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1294412617' post='595294']
Here we go again, that man pulled up before he hit him, and the contact was weak. Say what you want, i have seen cheerleaders hit harder by runaway players in high school, and get right up, no complaining, and continue cheering. Are you kidding me?
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So, basically, you have a problem with Flacco wanting to get the same treatment that most other QB's get ? Gotcha ...

[Romo Ravens]

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1294412374' post='595291']
Just stating the facts. People like me bring light to the dark. Ill praise the defense if that is what you want to hear but as far as me praising nonsense you won't see that. The reason we are so good is because of people like me telling the truth. Look at the clip again now what do you see?....... i thought so.
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The defense is good once again and the offense is underachieving like we've seen in past years. You're not bringing any "light" to the dark, you're stating what everyone already knows. As for Flacco being a "wimp", I never once thought that while watching the video. It was a late hit and we was yelling at the referee because of how mad he was. He wanted a flag. I don't even know what to think anymore. Fans wants Flacco to be more vocal instead of keeping to himself, but when he does get fired up, he's a wimp. Whatever

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1294424311' post='595409']
So, basically, you have a problem with Flacco wanting to get the same treatment that most other QB's get ? Gotcha ...
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No i said that particular hit was weak,and i stand by that.

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' timestamp='1294439841' post='595712']
The defense is good once again and the offense is underachieving like we've seen in past years. You're not bringing any "light" to the dark, you're stating what everyone already knows. As for Flacco being a "wimp", I never once thought that while watching the video. It was a late hit and we was yelling at the referee because of how mad he was. He wanted a flag. I don't even know what to think anymore. Fans wants Flacco to be more vocal instead of keeping to himself, but when he does get fired up, he's a wimp. Whatever
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I really would like to see him fired up when Boldin doesn't get open, or Dickson runs a bad route. That hit was weak, that was not a play you want to see your starting Qb lose his head on. I love Flacco he is the best thing to happen to the Ravens since Jonathan Ogden Ray Lewis and Ed Reed. But that hit was weak, that's all.

[flynismo]

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1294452887' post='595896']
No i said that particular hit was weak,and i stand by that.
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Okay, but was the hit illegal?
If so, do you feel Flacco has the right to expect a flag to be thrown on an illegal hit, regardless of how weak you think the hit was (which is funny you'd call the hit weak while sitting on the couch watching a 300lb man knee Flacco in the face)?

[bdravens]

It's strange, most people whine and complain that he's too quiet. Well, that video shows a side we haven't really seen before, the side we've wanted to see, and somebody is complaining about that? Sigh...

[bdravens]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1294419086' post='595362']
Well I understand where you are coming from but he really did just manage games. Which isn't a bad thing. Thats what we needed from him. We had a vicious defense and a hungry run game, rarely did the game come down to him having to air it out and bail us out. Obviously he is important to our team now and then but I just hate it when people say "Flacco took us to the playoffs".
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He managed games, but a rookie QB often can destroy a team's chances of getting into the playoffs by throwing INT's or fumbling the ball. Joe did enough to get us into the playoffs the first year, last year I think he was a big part of it, and this year is the same story. It's hard to deny that he has led us in some way to the playoffs each year.

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1294453250' post='595901']
Okay, but was the hit illegal?
If so, do you feel Flacco has the right to expect a flag to be thrown on an illegal hit, regardless of how weak you think the hit was (which is funny you'd call the hit weak while sitting on the couch watching a 300lb man knee Flacco in the face)?
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on the couch meaning i can't play. Some of you guys have no idea. I would say google my name, but that would be off topic. I played football on every level and that hit was weak.

[Jabara]

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1294453091' post='595898']
I really would like to see him fired up when Boldin doesn't get open, or Dickson runs a bad route. That hit was weak, that was not a play you want to see your starting Qb lose his head on. I love Flacco he is the best thing to happen to the Ravens since Jonathan Ogden Ray Lewis and Ed Reed. But that hit was weak, that's all.
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The dude rammed his knee into Flacco's head, what is so weak about that?
It's a cheap shot, it wasn't so much a hit, it was a knee to the head.
Just because you may not have seen the actual action or are listening to the announcers miss it, look at it again, and make up your own mind.
A knee to the head is nothing to get upset about?
That could have easily ended up as a concussion.
It should have been called, at the very least, a late hit, or a blow to the head to the QB.
You keep trying to act internet tough calling it weak, when I'd like to see your response to a big NFL dude kneeing you in the head.
His teammates said after the game, they liked seeing him fired up, and even Boldin was yelling at the ref.
So you are also saying Boldin is a joke for being upset after seeing his QB taking a "weak hit" which was actually a cheap shot/knee to the head.


Anyway, it already happened, it's over, we won and Flacco is fine.

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='Jabara' timestamp='1294453895' post='595912']
The dude rammed his knee into Flacco's head, what is so weak about that?
It's a cheap shot, it wasn't so much a hit, it was a knee to the head.
Just because you may not have seen the actual action or are listening to the announcers miss it, look at it again, and make up your own mind.
A knee to the head is nothing to get upset about?
That could have easily ended up as a concussion.
It should have been called, at the very least, a late hit, or a blow to the head to the QB.
You keep trying to act internet tough calling it weak, when I'd like to see your response to a big NFL dude kneeing you in the head.
His teammates said after the game, they liked seeing him fired up, and even Boldin was yelling at the ref.
So you are also saying Boldin is a joke for being upset after seeing his QB taking a "weak hit" which was actually a cheap shot/knee to the head.


Anyway, it already happened, it's over, we won and Flacco is fine.
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Boldin is a joke?????????? When was this? "I'd like to see your response to a big NFL dude kneeing you in the head." Id keep playing like i did when i was in the league, it happens all the time.

[flynismo]

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1294453730' post='595911']
on the couch meaning i can't play. Some of you guys have no idea. I would say google my name, but that would be off topic. I played football on every level and that hit was weak.
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On the couch meaning you weren't the one who got the knee to your face.
But I'll accept your avoidance of my question as an acknowledgement that Flacco should have expected a flag to be thrown.

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1294454290' post='595916']
On the couch meaning you weren't the one who got the knee to your face.
But I'll accept your avoidance of my question as an acknowledgment that Flacco should have expected a flag to be thrown.
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lol Gotcha acknowledgment

[FerrariFan87]

Flacco played on basically one leg at the end of the year and in the playoffs last season and still won games and never used it as an excuse... how can anyone question his toughness?

[Jabara]

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1294454198' post='595914']
Boldin is a joke?????????? When was this? "I'd like to see your response to a big NFL dude kneeing you in the head." Id keep playing like i did when i was in the league, it happens all the time.
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I'm saying Boldin was just as upset with the refs as Joe was, yet you aren't saying Boldin is weak for being upset about the hit.
A bit of a contradiction.

[PeRK82]

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1294334419' post='594629']
Wow i don't know if the clip helps you think he is more vocal or a straight up wimp. Joe looks like he is cussing the Ref out for nothing. Disappointing to see him behave that way after that weak hit.
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huh he is pissed because he was kneed in the face (face mask) and no penalty call(and you know the one of the refs saw that clear as day). That defender could have stopped himself or atleast make his fat butt jump over him. If that was Brady, Manning or Brees for that matter there would have been a penalty. Especailly if a Ravens player did it to an opposing team. Joe was already on the ground for a good 2 seconds let alone the time that you saw him going down. So that player could have stopped himself.
Oh and by the way i truely Love the reaction out of Flacco, im sick of hearing Joe Cool, screw that i want hin pissed off with a killer instinct. Thats just my opinion

[ravensdfan]

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1294496355' post='596078']
oh so it is far fetched then look up my real name Daniel Davis im from Va. i played at Brooke point High school. You should end with 10 day contract with the Colts. But what do i know.
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Went back and looked at the hit since you were so adamant about it being "weak". Flacco was already on the ground with another defender on top of him. Man came in late and forceful. As Flacco is now immobile, I really don't think the hit was "weak". Besides, it is not like he was slow to get up, limped off or anything. He was asking for a flag that he should have gotten. If you do a little lip reading you'll see he was telling the ref to protect him. If they let that hit go, what about the next one?

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='ravensdfan' timestamp='1294497652' post='596091']
Went back and looked at the hit since you were so adamant about it being "weak". Flacco was already on the ground with another defender on top of him. Man came in late and forceful. As Flacco is now immobile, I really don't think the hit was "weak". Besides, it is not like he was slow to get up, limped off or anything. He was asking for a flag that he should have gotten. If you do a little lip reading you'll see he was telling the ref to protect him. If they let that hit go, what about the next one?
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The hit was weak that is where all this started. Not Flacco being weak the hit nothing more. But i can understand under the new rules that that hit should have been called it just wasn't what everyone on here is making it out to be that's all.