If Ravens Play Indy, Bench Flacco For Bulger

[JohnJohnson]

I definitely feel like we need a change of coordinators though, our passing attack is so lame.

[Jamal]

Joe holds on to the ball because his WR's are given time consuming routes. Only Cam "the genius" Cameron knows why these kind of routes are being called....

[kagejb]

And our solution to the offense's problems is to play an old, creaky QB who hasn't played a snap all season?

[JohnJohnson]

[quote name='kagejb' timestamp='1294003749' post='590912']
And our solution to the offense's problems is to play an old, creaky QB who hasn't played a snap all season?
[/quote]

Sure, he'll evade all of the pressure despite the o-line being beaten from multiple angles. He'll get the ball out quickly to our non-existent short option.

[Shawn`]

Sign & start Troy Smith!

[RayRiceFan27]

[quote name='bdravens' timestamp='1294002728' post='590862']
Great idea. Bench the QB that led us to 3 straight playoffs in his first 3 years. Great plan
[/quote]

How about, "Great Idea. Bench a QB that has played every snap this season, right before a playoff game; in favor of a QB that hasnt had a snap at all in the regular season." That just spells bad idea. If theres one thing you dont want to do, its switch out your most important player on the Offense right before a key playoff game.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='Bullrush' timestamp='1294002246' post='590830']
Do you even know what Cover 2 means? How about you check out our schedule and figure out how many cover 2 defenses Joe has picked apart this season.

His one throw that was picked off was horrible, outside of that he basically completed every pass today. The O-Line can't block for crap, and Cam Cameron makes Matt Cavanaugh look like Bill Walsh as far as being creative on offense.

Run
Run
Dumpoff to Rice
Punt

Dumpoff to Rice
Run
Short Slant to Boldin
Punt

Run
Run
Screen to Rice
Punt

This guy doesn't even notice how bad he is. And the defense is pretty much pathetic as well. If we play Indy we don't even have to show up there with this type of performance on offense and defense. They'll pick us apart, as always.
[/quote]
Yes call the defense terrible after being on the field for 70 plays and forcing 5 turnovers, that makes sense.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Jamal' timestamp='1294003707' post='590910']
Joe holds on to the ball because his WR's are given time consuming routes. Only Cam "the genius" Cameron knows why these kind of routes are being called....
[/quote]

It's unbelievable.

[fistfullwales]

Joe is the best we got and he is our future, no way is Bulger a better option. We win and lose with Joe.

[Jamal]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1294004311' post='590933']
It's unbelievable.
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Thats all it is talking about Cam at this point.

[ravenswoman]

[quote name='Shawn`' timestamp='1294004091' post='590923']
Sign & start Troy Smith!
[/quote]

[Militant X 1]

it is amazing to see how many cats in here just can't handle people speaking their minds (negatively) about Flacco and are quick to hand out - to posters that do as though he (Flacco) is flawless. Wrong!

Flacco struggled today but, not only him...the entire offensive production was pure garbage! they did absolutely nothing to help the defense out but this is how they have been performing the entire season. well, the regular season for the Ravens is over and now the playoffs begin. once again....the Ravens are a WildCard team and must hit the road throughout the playoffs.

the scenario now? ONE & DONE!!

[RivenHale]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' timestamp='1294001667' post='590742']
Entering this final game, 25 TDs, only 9 INTs, 94.6 QB rating (almost better than Peyton Manning in his third year), 62% completion rating, nearly 3,500 yards.

In a word: no.
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This thread ended with the second post.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='PITCH52BLACK' timestamp='1294004696' post='590948']
[b]it is amazing to see how many cats in here just can't handle people speaking their minds (negatively) about Flacco and are quick to hand out - to posters that do as though he (Flacco) is flawless. Wrong! [/b]

Flacco struggled today but, not only him...the entire offensive production was pure garbage! they did absolutely nothing to help the defense out but this is how they have been performing the entire season. well, the regular season for the Ravens is over and now the playoffs begin. once again....the Ravens are a WildCard team and must hit the road throughout the playoffs.

[b]the scenario now? ONE & DONE!![/b]
[/quote]

No one here has claimed Joe is flawless. His lack of speed going through his reads and is the most glaring f his issues right now.

How exactly is the "scenario" now a loss in the wildcard round?

[gabefergy]

Benching Joe in the playoffs is the most moronic idea I have read on these boards

[johnmike72]

If anybody needs to be benched its Cam Cameron,its his awful play calling.

[K-Dog]

Ray Lewis missed a tackle today lets bench him as well.

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[ravensdfan]

[quote name='Whitty Hutton' timestamp='1294001425' post='590714']
Cam cant do ANYTHING against a cover 2. Ravens have to seriously consider this
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Fixed.

[Ravenseconbeast]

We cant exhaust our defense like this. Our offense needs to know how to complete consistent 1st downs to keep our defense to rest a little. Every few seconds Flacco amd the O stink it up and just force the exhausted D to get back on field.

[Shammy]

The Chiefs arent gonna be a walk in the park either .. theyve got a pretty good pass rush

[ravensdfan]

[quote name='Ravenseconbeast' timestamp='1294005896' post='591004']
We cant exhaust our defense like this. Our offense needs to know how to complete consistent 1st downs to keep our defense to rest a little. Every few seconds Flacco amd the O stink it up and just force the exhausted D to get back on field.
[/quote]

Run
Run
Ru...oh wait, 3rd and long...um...okay, screen
Punt

This is Cam's mentality. When everyone knows what play you are running, exactly when you are going to pass, it is hard to be successful. Cam needs to go.

[Militant X 1]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1294004866' post='590951']
[b]No one here has claimed Joe is flawless[/b]. His lack of speed going through his reads and is the most glaring f his issues right now.

How exactly is the "scenario" now a loss in the wildcard round?
[/quote]

sure they have! just go back and view the posters who have made comments on Joe's horrible gameplay and look at the - they received! lol!

plus....i said the scenario now (meaning the playoffs) is One & Done! not a automatic loss for the Ravens. playoffs = one & done! that's the scenario!

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='PITCH52BLACK' timestamp='1294006212' post='591019']
sure they have! just go back and view the posters who have made comments on Joe's horrible gameplay and look at the - they received! lol!

plus....i said the scenario now (meaning the playoffs) is One & Done! not a automatic loss for the Ravens. playoffs = one & done! that's the scenario!
[/quote]

Are you reading your posts? So by negging those who criticize Joe, they're also claiming he's flawless? Stop it dude. Criticism is one thing but so often on this forum, I've seen people horribly exaggerate Joe's flaws.

"Playoffs = one & done"? You know this for a fact, how?

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1294006385' post='591024']
"Playoffs = one & done"? You know this for a fact, how?
[/quote]
No, I think he's saying the situation is, you lose one in the playoffs, you're done. Basically the wrong verbiage for the scenario we're all familiar with in the playoffs.

[RoflDogs]

[quote name='Radinho84' timestamp='1294003577' post='590901']
as much as i would love the scenario but i have never seen a 12-4 team that fired it´s coach after such a season. i am sure that everybody on this team is disappointed about our offensive performance this year but they will sit down ans talk and say that they wanna change some stuff but nothing gonna be changed.

i almost laughed as i read that cam wants to use q more....

even if we win it all this year i would fire cam because he is holding our offense back!!!
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Marty Schottenheimer

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' timestamp='1294006562' post='591034']
No, I think he's saying the situation is, you lose one in the playoffs, you're done. Basically the wrong verbiage for the scenario we're all familiar with in the playoffs.
[/quote]

Ah. Well, like you said, a loss in the play-offs means elimination is common knowledge.

[luke]

i still think the ravens can beat the chiefs and the patriots..hopefully, they end up playing the chiefs in the 1st rnd...it would be a delight to meet up again in the AFC title game with a raven/steeler matchup

[ravensdfan]

[quote name='luke' timestamp='1294007321' post='591066']
i still think the ravens can beat the chiefs and the patriots..hopefully, they end up playing the chiefs in the 1st rnd...it would be a delight to meet up again in the AFC title game with a raven/steeler matchup
[/quote]

On that I'd have to agree with you. It would be probably the best playoff game of the season if the Ravens/Steelers met a third time.

[Militant X 1]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1294006385' post='591024']
[b]Are you reading your posts? So by negging those who criticize Joe, they're also claiming he's flawless? Stop it dude.[/b] Criticism is one thing but so often on this forum, I've seen people horribly exaggerate Joe's flaws.

"Playoffs = one & done"? You know this for a fact, how?
[/quote]

are you serious?

you know good and well that many cats in here constantly - the people that speak against Joe's gameplay. you know this! i couldn't careless cause i will always speak my mind...but then for you to say that other peoples opinions of Joe's horrible game play is "exaggerated? you need to stop it dude! just saying!

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='PITCH52BLACK' timestamp='1294007701' post='591081']
are you serious?

you know good and well that many cats in here constantly - the people that speak against Joe's gameplay. you know this! i couldn't careless cause i will always speak my mind...but then for you to say that other peoples opinions of Joe's horrible game play is "exaggerated? you need to stop it dude! just saying!
[/quote]

Yes, I am serious because it was a legitimate question you haven't addressed.

Your reading comprehension needs work man. I never said every critique by a Ravens fan regarding Joe's play has been exaggerated. I said it's something I've seen often.

And while Joe certainly didn't light it up today, I wouldn't say he was "horrible" either.