Matt Millen: Skelton More Mobile Than Flacco?

[BALTIMOREFLACCO]

Did anyone else catch Matt Millen's completely random reference about how the Cardinals Qb, Skelton, is more mobile than Flacco? Another reason why I hate those clowns over at the NFL network.

[theFRANCHISE]

You should see/hear my rants on Joe Theismann and Matt Millen every time they broadcast a game...

If I weren't a Mod, some of the stuff I've said in private about them around here would get me banned.

[Ed_Reed20]

His name is actually [b]Skelton[/b]. He was compared to Joe before the Combine and scouting reports I've read suggest he actually is more mobile than Joe but I could care less really.

[gabefergy]

Does it matter? I mean Skelton is pretty bad, good for him if he can move around a little bit. Its highly doubtful that he has a future in the NFL. As far Millen is concerned, how bout u go draft another WR with your top 5 pick buddy

[bmorefan444]

The NFL network crew never has many nice things about the Ravens.

[theFRANCHISE]

Y'know, I wouldn't be surprised if Matt Millen got his name wrong, like all of the other things he gets wrong. It's like it's his job to be wrong in order to make the audience feel smarter.

Can you tell how much Matt Millen has thoroughly ruined my enjoyment of games this year? He is the one broadcaster I can honestly say I find no redeeming value in listening to; even Joe Theismann has had some interesting anecdotes on occasion. Bryant Gumbel, as much as I hated him as NFLN's play-by-play guy, was at least good for putting me to sleep on Thursday and Saturday nights.

Matt Millen makes me want to throw my beloved PS3 into my equally-beloved 1080p HDTV and burn the cable box in effegy so that Millen's voice is forever silenced.

[Jamal]

It might be true, but nothing said by those NFL Network commentators should not be taken seriously.

[ravensfan2424]

At least Jason La Canfora occasionally shows some love to the Ravens. They dont all dislike us

[Romo Ravens]

Well he is correct, Raymond Felton is indeed [i]a lot[/i] more mobile than Joe

[codizzle]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' timestamp='1293334641' post='584913']
Well he is correct, Raymond Felton is indeed [i]a lot[/i] more mobile than Joe
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Totally the same thing that popped in my head.. Read the title and thought that's gotta be the most random comparison ever

[Ngata92NT]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' timestamp='1293334054' post='584908']
Y'know, I wouldn't be surprised if Matt Millen got his name wrong, like all of the other things he gets wrong. It's like it's his job to be wrong in order to make the audience feel smarter.

Can you tell how much Matt Millen has thoroughly ruined my enjoyment of games this year? He is the one broadcaster I can honestly say I find no redeeming value in listening to; even Joe Theismann has had some interesting anecdotes on occasion. Bryant Gumbel, as much as I hated him as NFLN's play-by-play guy, was at least good for putting me to sleep on Thursday and Saturday nights.

Matt Millen makes me want to throw my beloved PS3 into my equally-beloved 1080p HDTV and burn the cable box in effegy so that Millen's voice is forever silenced.
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You could just turn off the TV sound and play some smooth jazz (or death metal, whatever works).

I wouldn't be surprised if Skelton was, in fact, more mobile than Flacco. What's strange is why they are even mentioning Flacco in the first place. Joe is a pocket passer and everyone knows he's not very mobile. So why bring him up when you're trying to talk about a QB's mobility? It's like saying "You know guys, Fitzgeralds's a lot more mobile than Haloti Ngata".

[RivenHale]

My dad and I were watching the game and both of us glanced at each other in surprise when Millen said that. I really think Joe is a LOT more mobile than people seem to give him credit for.

Not saying he's, like, Michael Vick out there, or anything. It's just that people see him as a sitting duck out there, and he seems to be a lot more athletic than that. Which is fine by me; the more talents Joe has that everyone else can't see, the better.

[Romo Ravens]

[quote name='Ngata92NT' timestamp='1293337587' post='584932']
You could just turn off the TV sound and play some smooth jazz (or death metal, whatever works).

I wouldn't be surprised if Skelton was, in fact, more mobile than Flacco. What's strange is why they are even mentioning Flacco in the first place. Joe is a pocket passer and everyone knows he's not very mobile. [b]So why bring him up when you're trying to talk about a QB's mobility? It's like saying "You know guys, Fitzgeralds's a lot more mobile than Haloti Ngata".[/b][/quote]

That's like asking why a bear craps in the woods. When you watch a Millen/Theismann announced game, you expect anything to be said; saying the names wrong, mixing up other players' names, wrong statistics, reading the exact thing that shows up on the screen of the TV, a love fest for an individual players, etc. Earlier in the game, the Cowboys reached the first down marker, and Millen shortly disagreed with the area of the ball. Why? [b]He was looking at it in the area of the opposite side of the 50 yard line.[/b] Meaning from that angle, the ball was a good five yards away from the first down marker, and he follows up by saying something to make the viewers try and forget about what he said, by stating that the officials made one hell of a call.

Why he has a job is just beyond me, and why I watch Thursday/Saturday night football, I'll never know. Millen and Theismann together is hell on earth.

[img]http://www.mouthpiecesports.com/blogmedia/2009/06/millen.jpg[/img]

[reediddy]

First off, I thought this idiot's debacles in Detroit completely relieved him of all credibility. The fact he is an NFL Network commentator is simply baffling, it's like they don't consider that in their hiring process.

Secondly, we know that NFLN has an agenda that notes: At any chance given, say something to deride the Ravens. You see it by them hiring Dave Dameshek and providing him with a show in which he shows pictures of him celebrating Steeler wins against the Ravens. You also see it in the numerous video clips on the Steelers and how they are the best in the AFC, regardless of the fact that they stunk it up against the Jets. Also consider the complete and utter ignorance towards the Ravens' win over the Super Bowl champs.

In terms of the actual post here, I'm wondering in what context Matt Millen brought this up. For some reason when I read the original post, I feel like Matt Millen just went, "HEY LOOK AT THAT! WOW SKELTON WHAT A GREAT QB! YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK HE'S FASTER THAN JOE FLACCO!!" Idiotic, worthless commentary, if that's the case. Thanks for nothing.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='reediddy' timestamp='1293339067' post='584936']
First off, I thought this idiot's debacles in Detroit completely relieved him of all credibility. The fact he is an NFL Network commentator is simply baffling, it's like they don't consider that in their hiring process.

Secondly, we know that NFLN has an agenda that notes: At any chance given, say something to deride the Ravens. You see it by them hiring Dave Dameshek and providing him with a show in which he shows pictures of him celebrating Steeler wins against the Ravens. You also see it in the numerous video clips on the Steelers and how they are the best in the AFC, regardless of the fact that they stunk it up against the Jets. Also consider the complete and utter ignorance towards the Ravens' win over the Super Bowl champs.

In terms of the actual post here, I'm wondering in what context Matt Millen brought this up. For some reason when I read the original post, I feel like Matt Millen just went, "HEY LOOK AT THAT! WOW SKELTON WHAT A GREAT QB! YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK HE'S FASTER THAN JOE FLACCO!!" Idiotic, worthless commentary, if that's the case. Thanks for nothing.
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While I'll agree with the sentiments about Matt Millen, there is no agenda against the Ravens.

Consider that:
- Jason La Canfora is NFLN's lead insider, who also happens to be a former Ravens beat writer, Baltimore native, and is a known Ravens fan
- Ray Lewis has been featured regularly in sit-down interviews on NFLN's Gameday Live
- The Ravens are featured in at least one segment on each episode of NFL Total Access
- Former Ravens head coach Brian Billick was hand-selected by NFLN to be an analyst for both Playbook and The Coaches' Show
- There are hanging pictures of Ed Reed and Ray Lewis on the sets of NFL Total Access, Playbook, and other NFL Network sets
- Ravens play-by-play commentator Gerry Sandusky has been featured regularly as a commentator on recent episodes of NFLN's Top Ten
- Deion Sanders, Rod Woodson, and Warren Sapp are continually complimentary of Ray Lewis and Ed Reed
- Terrell Suggs has served as a guest on NFL Total Access numerous times, even filling in as a guest analyst
- Ravens games have been featured on either NFL Replay or NFL Game of the Week broadcasts at least twice a month for the past three seasons

I could go on and on. There's no NFLN agenda against the Ravens. Being involved in the media, I pay attention to things like this. Trust me on this.

[RivenHale]

Someone - I think it was Theismann - noted that Skelton reminded them on Joe, in that he's a big guy with a strong arm and a quiet demanour. (Skelton did have a fairly decent game with some big throws; the comparison wasn't ENTIRELY off-base.) That's when Millen said that he might be more mobile than Joe.

The statement at least had a basis in context, anyway.


EDIT: Shhh, Franny. Of course there's a bias against the Ravens! That's the only thing that keeps us sane around here. We've never lost a game, the officials keep beating us!

[mdrsharon]

because they called the Thurs nite game with us and Atlanta, they brought up the Flacco comparison.
I think they are horrible commentators, for some reason,so many of these guys are really bad. It doesn't matter if it is Fox, CBS or NFL. They all have good broadcast teams and bad ones.
I am a girl and I could say better stuff during a game then most of these guys.

By the way, Rich Eisen loves the Ravens, has had Ray Lewis as his first guest on his podcast, and Ed Reed was on last week.

[JO_75]

All I'll say about this is.....

Who Cares! Like someone said Matt Millen should have lost all credibility when he destroyed the Lions forever. Looks like Arizona might have found a QB in John Skelton.

[RoflDogs]

Skelton is pretty inaccurate, but he has a cannon


And the NFLN thursday night crew is by far the worst commentators that I've ever heard EVER

[reediddy]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' timestamp='1293339763' post='584938']
While I'll agree with the sentiments about Matt Millen, there is no agenda against the Ravens.

Consider that:
- Jason La Canfora is NFLN's lead insider, who also happens to be a former Ravens beat writer, Baltimore native, and is a known Ravens fan
- Ray Lewis has been featured regularly in sit-down interviews on NFLN's Gameday Live
- The Ravens are featured in at least one segment on each episode of NFL Total Access
- Former Ravens head coach Brian Billick was hand-selected by NFLN to be an analyst for both Playbook and The Coaches' Show
- There are hanging pictures of Ed Reed and Ray Lewis on the sets of NFL Total Access, Playbook, and other NFL Network sets
- Ravens play-by-play commentator Gerry Sandusky has been featured regularly as a commentator on recent episodes of NFLN's Top Ten
- Deion Sanders, Rod Woodson, and Warren Sapp are continually complimentary of Ray Lewis and Ed Reed
- Terrell Suggs has served as a guest on NFL Total Access numerous times, even filling in as a guest analyst
- Ravens games have been featured on either NFL Replay or NFL Game of the Week broadcasts at least twice a month for the past three seasons

I could go on and on. There's no NFLN agenda against the Ravens. Being involved in the media, I pay attention to things like this. Trust me on this.
[/quote]

That's my paranoid Ravens fandom showing

[littleray27]

[quote name='BALTIMOREFLACCO' timestamp='1293333107' post='584903']
Did anyone else catch Matt Millen's completely random reference about how the Cardinals Qb, Skelton, is more mobile than Flacco? Another reason why I hate those clowns over at the NFL network.
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So you're going to listen to Matt Millen, Joe Thiesmann and the other circus clown from NFL network? You can't be serious man! If the world was ending and those guys had some last thoughts on what to do that would save you, I would go down in a blaze of glory. Come on now, you people can't be seriously listening to these clowns and actually think they have any clue. I mean yeah they're pros and have been there and done that, but you're talking Matt Millen FFS and the rest of the side show. Come on now, don't even feed into those circus clowns on NFL network.

[flynismo]

Joe's much more athletic than most realize. But who cares if Skelton is more mobile, which is debateable (cue Flacco's NFL debut )? Troy Smith is more mobile than Flacco. Who's the better QB? That's the only question I care about.

[baltravens]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1293333895' post='584906']
Does it matter? I mean Skelton is pretty bad, good for him if he can move around a little bit. Its highly doubtful that he has a future in the NFL. As far Millen is concerned, how bout u go draft another WR with your top 5 pick buddy
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Millen really is a weak NFL executive. I could almost say poor or atrocious, and to highlight his name anytime is dubious.

[BrownsFan]

I will NEVER understand how Matt Millen has about 5 different jobs; he is the absolute freaking worst NFL commentator that exists.

[bmorebaby]

flacco must be pretty good if they are starting to compare younger QB's to him. Flacco is showing that he can play like an elite quarterback and it's only his third season. He show's improvement with every game. I am very excited to have him as our quarterback he is awesome. He has the 5th best QB rating in the league and it's only improving. GO FLACCO GO TEAM GO RAVENS!!!!

[Alexir]

[quote name='BALTIMOREFLACCO' timestamp='1293333107' post='584903']
Did anyone else catch Matt Millen's completely random reference about how the Cardinals Qb, Skelton, is more mobile than Flacco? Another reason why I hate those clowns over at the NFL network.
[/quote]

This has been by far the worst year in broadcasting by sports announcers.

I love it when they say "Ravens coach Jim harbaugh" or Haloti Nagata or Ngato. They are all a bunch of clowns.

I mean Skelton is more mobile than Flacco but i dont know why Joe got called out on it. He could of said Brady, Peyton, Brees. Everyone except Vick lol

[Militant X 1]

we all know that Joe is not the nimblest or most light-footed of the QBs when it comes to scrambling out of a collapsing pocket. i definitley wish he would get out of there faster than when he does! but, when we does....he can be off to the races for a nice gain. lol!

my point? who cares what Millen had to say? since when has he or what he has had to say ever been important?

Let's Go Ravens!

[Rav'n Maniac]

How much mobility does a true, effective pocket passer need? I say, 1 to 2 steps to avoid a rush, step into their throw and make a completion or throw the ball away before the pocket completely collapses. Any more than that, your O-line isn't doing their job.

[Ngata92NT]

[quote name='Rav'n Maniac' timestamp='1293380480' post='584996']
How much mobility does a true, effective pocket passer need? I say, 1 to 2 steps to avoid a rush, step into their throw and make a completion or throw the ball away before the pocket completely collapses. Any more than that, your O-line isn't doing their job.
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Exactly, truly "mobile" quarterbacks are becoming a thing of the past (Vick is the exception). Pocket presence and elusiveness are still important for pocket passers like Manning, Brady, Joe, Rivers, etc... but they don't need SPEED as much as they need awareness. Peyton Manning would probably take half a season to run down the field but he's damn near impossible to sack.

That said when Joe gets a full head of steam he can break one off, anyone remember him wrecking Williams (a LB) in the Broncos game?

[Militant X 1]

^^^

i don't think that "mobile" QBs are becoming a thing of the past. mobile QBs are hard to gameplan for...especially once they get out of that pocket!