MERGED & UPDATED: Coaching Changes 2010 - 2011

[Alexir]

I truly believe that a coach from each division in the off season will be fired, if they haven't been fired yet.

I put the chance of each coach being gone next season. 50/50 meaning I can see it going either way.


AFC NORTH
Marvin Lewis[b]- Safe; Signed Extension[/b]
Eric Mangini[b]-Fired; Pat Shumur hired
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AFC EAST
Chan Gailey-Appears Safe
Tony Sparano[b]-Signed Extension[/b]

AFC WEST
Tom Cable-[b]Fired; Hue Jackson in negotiations[/b]
Norv Turner-Appears Safe
McDaniels-[b]ALREADY FIRED; John Fox hired[/b]
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AFC SOUTH
Jeff Fisher-[b]Fired; Mike Munchuk hired[/b]
Gary Kubiak-[b]Safe; Bringing Wade Phillips in For Defense?[/b]

NFC NORTH
[b]Childress-ALREADY FIRED; Leslie Frazier permanently hired[/b]
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NFC EAST
[b]Phillips-ALREADY FIRED; Jason Garrett permanently hired[/b]
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NFC WEST
[b]Mike Singletary-ALREADY FIRED; Jim Harbaugh hired[/b]
Whisenhunt-Appears Safe

NFC SOUTH
John Fox-[b]Fired; Ron Riviera hired[/b]


Of course this is all speculation, but I really see any of these coaches getting canned in the off season. Especially if there isn't a CBA reached.

UPDATED: 2/7/11

[AwakenTheDemon]

I think Mangini, Turner, and Gailey are safe. The Browns are doing that bad thus far, they've actually made some strides in being competitive. Now, if they hadn't started Delhomme yesterday, I could probably have seen them beating Buffalo. Gailey, eh, it's hard to judge Buffalo. For everything they do right, they do two things wrong. But they too have also been competitive, despite their horrendous start to the season. I think Gailey will, at least, have one more season to show Buffalo what he can do.

Turner is someone I'm not sure San Diego will let go of. They've always hard slow starts to their seasons, and their injury/hold out bug has only hurt them.

[berad]

You think Cable is gone right when that team started to have some semblance of competitive spark in them?

[PuRock]

[quote name='berad' timestamp='1292271135' post='571382']
You think Cable is gone right when that team started to have some semblance of competitive spark in them?
[/quote]

I think Cable is safe as well. This team is moving in the right direction for once. Its not his fault that the team suffers from lack of depth. He's actually putting together some good gameplans.

Same goes for Gailey. He'll be back. Both these teams are rolling with a lot of upside. No need to cut the head off before it comes to bloom.

[True]

I expect to see "Bring back Marvin Lewis as DC" and "Bring in Childress, McDaniels, Turner as OC" thread in the off season.

[AwakenTheDemon]

The AFC South is interesting. Fisher is a great coach, and I wouldn't feel right placing all of the blame for Tennessee's output on him. However, everyone knows how much Bud Adams loves Young. If it comes down to it and Fisher is canned due to his clashings with Young and unwillingness to start him just because Adams has a man crush on him, then another team can really end up with a steal at Head Coach.

Kubiak is interesting simply because the Texans are always on the verge of going somewhere. However, their porous defense and injury issues derailed them yet again this season. I really wouldn't be surprised to see Kubiak fired, but he's only had one losing season (granted he's had two fifty percent seasons), and had the misfortune to be in Peyton Manning's division.

[PuRock]

[quote name='True' timestamp='1292271950' post='571394']
I expect to see "Bring back Marvin Lewis as DC" and "Bring in Childress, McDaniels, Turner as OC" thread in the off season.
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Only one thread? Your selling yourself short man. It'll be like 1 new thread a day.

Can we just bring all those guys in together and weld them into a superfreak OC? (I don't know what is my obession with creating super anythings)

[PuRock]

[quote name='AwakenTheDemon' timestamp='1292272264' post='571398']
Kubiak is interesting simply because the Texans are always on the verge of going somewhere. However, their porous defense and injury issues derailed them yet again this season. I really wouldn't be surprised to see Kubiak fired, but he's only had one losing season (granted he's had two fifty percent seasons), and had the misfortune to be in Peyton Manning's division.
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I don't think Kubiak will go. The offense is still moving the ball. They have both a run and pass game. Its the defense. They did lose their quarterback of the defense, DeMeco Ryan and the GM failed in bringing in enough talent on that side of the ball.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1292272551' post='571405']
I don't think Kubiak will go. The offense is still moving the ball. They have both a run and pass game. Its the defense. They did lose their quarterback of the defense, DeMeco Ryan and the GM failed in bringing in enough talent on that side of the ball.
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I think the Texans' owner might shortsightedly point to the team's inability to make the playoffs as the catalyst for Kubiak's firing, despite posting a winning record for the first time in franchise history and being much improved. It's similar to how Charlie Casserly was ousted as GM despite putting together this Texans roster that has finally yielded results on the field, with Casserly's final draft providing the blueprint for their success today.

[JO_75]

[b]AFC NORTH[/b]
Mangini- Safe: Mangini is very Under rated as HC and he will have Cleveland playing very well next year when they add more young players through the draft next year.

Marvin Lewis- Fired

[b]AFC EAST[/b]
Chan Gailey-50/50

Tony Sparano- 60%(with Parcells gone next year will be a do or die year for him)

[b]AFC WEST[/b]
Norv Turner: 50/50

[b]AFC SOUTH[/b]
Jeff Fisher- 100% Gone. Bud Adams will pick Young over Fisher.

Gary Kubiak-65% gone (Like Sparano, next year will be a playoff or fired year)

[b]NFC NORTH[/b]
Lovie Smith- 70%(if they fizzle out and miss the playoffs I see him gone)

[b]NFC EAST[/b]
Tom Coughlin: 65%(I believe if they miss the playoffs and Jeff Fisher becomes available Coughlin is gone, and Fisher is in with the Giants)

Shananan: There are some reports Snyder regrets bringing him in so it's possible they could be done with him after 1 year.

[b]NFC WEST[/b]
Mike Singletary/Whisenhunt- Both are Safe. The reason for that is because both coaches need to get "their guy" and took over with QBs from the previous head coach. They need to be allowed to get their own QBs and see what happens from there.


[b]NFC SOUTH[/b]
John Fox- Gone: Panthers are going to clean house in the off-season, I expect a whole new Front Office as well.

Coaches who should be worried next year:

- Mangini

- Kubiak

- Sparano

- Gailey

- Jack Del Rio(if he can't have the same success this year next year)

- Norv Turner if he is kept.

- Tom Coughlin if he is kept.

- Lovie Smith if Bears make the playoffs.

[PuRock]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' timestamp='1292274180' post='571426']
I think the Texans' owner might shortsightedly point to the team's inability to make the playoffs as the catalyst for Kubiak's firing, despite posting a winning record for the first time in franchise history and being much improved. It's similar to how Charlie Casserly was ousted as GM despite putting together this Texans roster that has finally yielded results on the field, with Casserly's final draft providing the blueprint for their success today.
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I have a ton of respect of Casserly. Still think that was a very poor move to get rid of him. I can say I haven't been a fan of what the new GM Rick Smith has done. I mean he drafted Dorin Dickerson and Kareem Jackson. That should be enough said right there.

[AwakenTheDemon]

Shanahan I could understand, this season has been a trainwreck for Washington. However I just can't see Coughlin or Smith getting the boot. Chicago is second in the NFC and looks to possibly have a first round bye, with Minnesota, the Jets, and Packers left. Coughlin and the Giants are back into contention, but they still have Philly and Green Bay left. Something tells me that both Smith and Coughlin should be safe.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1292275011' post='571436']
I have a ton of respect of Casserly. Still think that was a very poor move to get rid of him. I can say I haven't been a fan of what the new GM Rick Smith has done. I mean he drafted Dorin Dickerson and Kareem Jackson. That should be enough said right there.
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Casserly's 2006 draft class for the Texans is wholly underrated. 5 of the 7 selections are still on the team, with 4 of them being quality starters in Mario Williams, Demeco Ryans, Owen Daniels, and Eric Winston. Though Casserly has had up-and-down drafts in Houston, he acquired great talent in Andre Johnson, Dunta Robinson, Jason Babin, Chester Pitts, and a couple of other little-known players that made decent contributions for the team. Had Casserly acquired this talent for an average team rather than a brand-new one, he would still have a job just based on picking up Mario Williams and Andre Johnson alone.

[Alexir]

[quote name='berad' timestamp='1292271135' post='571382']
You think Cable is gone right when that team started to have some semblance of competitive spark in them?
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2 words. Al. Davis.

[PuRock]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' timestamp='1292275776' post='571445']
Casserly's 2006 draft class for the Texans is wholly underrated. 5 of the 7 selections are still on the team, with 4 of them being quality starters in Mario Williams, Demeco Ryans, Owen Daniels, and Eric Winston. Though Casserly has had up-and-down drafts in Houston, he acquired great talent in Andre Johnson, Dunta Robinson, Jason Babin, Chester Pitts, and a couple of other little-known players that made decent contributions for the team. Had Casserly acquired this talent for an average team rather than a brand-new one, he would still have a job just based on picking up Mario Williams and Andre Johnson alone.
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Agreed. I wonder why Casserly hasn't gone back to football. He must enjoy being away from the game. Last I heard he was doing some teaching and ofcourse broadcasting.

[McBurks]

Does anyone else see Cowher coming into the Texans or Titans next year?

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1292275809' post='571447']
2 words. Al. Davis.
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SIGGED.

[flynismo]

[quote name='True' timestamp='1292271950' post='571394']<br />I expect to see &quot;Bring back Marvin Lewis as DC&quot; and &quot;Bring in Childress, McDaniels, Turner as OC&quot; thread in the off season.<br />[/quote]



norv turner would be fine, but now I'm kinda leery about taking in SD retreads

[PuRock]

[quote name='McBurks' timestamp='1292277997' post='571483']
Does anyone else see Cowher coming into the Texans or Titans next year?



SIGGED.
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Cowher if anything is going to the Panthers. Ideal situation.

[JO_75]

[quote name='McBurks' timestamp='1292277997' post='571483']
Does anyone else see Cowher coming into the Texans or Titans next year?[/quote]

Maybe, the Panthers are in play for Cowher too but I'm not sure if he wants to come to a horrible situation like Carolina and the Panthers owner may wind up paying someone cheap and not be willing to spend money on a big name head coach so Cowher could consider the Titans or Texans.

Does anyone think Jim Harbaugh(John's Brother) could make the jump to the NFL from Stanford, and that Jim could take any potential openings at Head Coach and which team would suit him? I just hope that if Jim does jump he doesn't end up with the Bengals.

[PuRock]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1292278746' post='571501']
Does anyone think Jim Harbaugh(John's Brother) could make the jump to the NFL from Stanford, and that Jim could take any potential openings at Head Coach and which team would suit him? I just hope that if Jim does jump he doesn't end up with the Bengals.
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Now that's a good question. I think he will make the leap. He's done tremendous work at Stanford putting them onto the football map. Plus his brother is doing great work with us. I see some team taking a shot.

I think Denver won't. They'll want somebody with more experience this time around. Same goes for a lot of the teams. But I think Houston would give him a shot. If Chicago or Jacksonville opens up, they might as well. Holgrem might like him in Cleveland and if the Panthers don't get Cowher, he could go there as well.

[berad]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1292275809' post='571447']
2 words. Al. Davis.
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Oh true lol

[AwakenTheDemon]

Could you imagine the headlines if Jim Harbaugh came to the AFC North as well?

With that said, I'm not sure if Jim will ever decide to lead an NFL team. He's done great things in Stanford, and some people are happy with where they are. Houston, Cincinnati, and Carolina do stand out to me as possible landing spots if he does decide to make the move to the NFL. But I'm not holding my breath.

[JO_75]

[quote name='AwakenTheDemon' timestamp='1292280667' post='571539']
[b]Could you imagine the headlines if Jim Harbaugh came to the AFC North as well?[/b]

With that said, I'm not sure if Jim will ever decide to lead an NFL team. He's done great things in Stanford, and some people are happy with where they are. Houston, [b]Cincinnati, and Carolina[/b] do stand out to me as possible landing spots if he does decide to make the move to the NFL. But I'm not holding my breath.
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Well it's already bad where people already call John Jim, so the media would be calling Jim John lol.

Carolina & Cincy would be interesting places for Jim because of the Luck factor. Carolina is guaranteed the # 1 Pick i the 2011 Draft regardless what happens the rest of the year. Now if Luck were to come out, and Jim were to take the Head Coaching Job in Carolina, would he have the urge to take Luck and continue the Harbaugh/Luck combination in the NFL in the NFC South and same with Cincy?

[purple.n.black]

I think Kubiak, Lewis, and Fox are guaranteed, and fisher is more than 50%. most of the others you listed I believe are safe though. Especially Tom Cable

[Ravens Lover]

If Marvin goes I pray he comes back to Baltimore although I don't think he will

[theFRANCHISE]

If Jim Harbaugh does indeed make the jump to the NFL, he'll probably heed his brother's advice and avoid teams with meddling owners. John Harbaugh speaks so highly of Steve Bisciotti and stresses that one of the main reasons he applied for the Baltimore job was because of the quality of the ownership, citing Bisciotti's relative hands-off approach as being a huge plus in changing the culture of the team.

This pretty much rules out a move to Washington, Denver, Oakland, Dallas, Tennessee, Cincinnati, or Cleveland in terms of possible or pending vacancies.

I believe Carolina would make the most sense for Jim Harbaugh, with Minnesota pulling in second. Both have owners desperate to make a move to appease the fanbase while righting a sinking ship. Both are willing to spend money to upgrade the team. Both are also relatively hands-off, though Zygi Wylf had some say in Brad Childress' endless pursuit of Brett Favre.

Carolina, however, would be more appealing because Harbaugh would have higher draft picks with which to play with in his initial draft, and he would also have a solid, young foundation on defense to help smoothen the transition between regimes. Most importantly, the locker room isn't split, whereas Minnesota's locker room is shrouded in dissension and polarized by the Favre situation. The Panthers are at least continuing to play hard for John Fox, even if their efforts have been for naught.

[JO_75]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' timestamp='1292548701' post='577776']
If Jim Harbaugh does indeed make the jump to the NFL, he'll probably heed his brother's advice and avoid teams with meddling owners. John Harbaugh speaks so highly of Steve Bisciotti and stresses that one of the main reasons he applied for the Baltimore job was because of the quality of the ownership, citing Bisciotti's relative hands-off approach as being a huge plus in changing the culture of the team.

This pretty much rules out a move to Washington, Denver, Oakland, Dallas, Tennessee, Cincinnati, or Cleveland in terms of possible or pending vacancies.

I believe Carolina would make the most sense for Jim Harbaugh, with Minnesota pulling in second. [b]Both have owners desperate to make a move to appease the fanbase while righting a sinking ship.[/b] Both are willing to spend money to upgrade the team. Both are also relatively hands-off, though Zygi Wylf had some say in Brad Childress' endless pursuit of Brett Favre.

[b]Carolina, however, would be more appealing because Harbaugh would have higher draft picks with which to play with in his initial draft, and he would also have a solid, young foundation on defense to help smoothen the transition between regimes.[/b] Most importantly, the locker room isn't split, whereas Minnesota's locker room is shrouded in dissension and polarized by the Favre situation. The Panthers are at least continuing to play hard for John Fox, even if their efforts have been for naught.
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The Panthers owner isn't willing to spend money. He is a horrible owner, Jerry Richardson doesn't have a clue how to run the team. If he was willing to spend, Peppers would still be a Panther not a Bear. Look at how the defense has suffered from not having Peppers. He has a young team but has too many young players at Key Positions. I agree Jim would be a better fit for Carolina, but he would have a owner who isn't willing to spend to give him a team he can win with.

Plus not only would he have high draft picks(except John Fox traded the 2nd round pick to NE so Jim would have the 1st Overall Pick and wouldn't pick again until the 3rd) but the Luck advantage. He would have the first shot at getting his QB that he knows well.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1292696505' post='578840']
The Panthers owner isn't willing to spend money. He is a horrible owner, Jerry Richardson doesn't have a clue how to run the team. If he was willing to spend, Peppers would still be a Panther not a Bear. Look at how the defense has suffered from not having Peppers. He has a young team but has too many young players at Key Positions. I agree Jim would be a better fit for Carolina, but he would have a owner who isn't willing to spend to give him a team he can win with.

Plus not only would he have high draft picks(except John Fox traded the 2nd round pick to NE so Jim would have the 1st Overall Pick and wouldn't pick again until the 3rd) but the Luck advantage. He would have the first shot at getting his QB that he knows well.
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I would blame the Panthers' woes more on the GM and front office than the owner; Richardson has reportedly had a hands-off approach, perhaps too hands-off, since he only puts the front office and coaching staff in place and doesn't do much else. I would argue that Richardson would be more willing to spend if Harbaugh, a charismatic guy like his brother, can convince him what needs to be done to turn things around.

[nfcsouth]

Just a Panthers fan input on our situation. Jerry Richardson is not a horrible owner, only one looking at the future of the NFL in general. He also has a lot of input on decisions from the front office. After this offseason many people believe that he has been a cheap owner forever which is far from the truth. He went cheap this offseason due to the possibility of a Lockout and took the advantage of dumping bad salaries without a penalty. With the CBA looking to be put in place in time Jerry will open up his wallet to free agents and coaches. No Carolina is not going to get Cowher because Jerry is cheap, were not gonna get him because he's not the right coach for our situation. Jim Harbaugh is a high target on Marty Hurney's radar. Also if everything I've heard about the new CBA is true, the team with the most cap space, which the Panthers are running away with that category, will be the most well off with the ability to acquire new players. We took a season off to set things up for the future and whoever comes in will have many tools to work with in building the new team. Just clearing it up because many seem to believe that Jerry and the Panthers have been this way forever.

[MsMarvel73]

[quote name='True' timestamp='1292271950' post='571394']
I expect to see "Bring back Marvin Lewis as DC" and "Bring in Childress, McDaniels, Turner as OC" thread in the off season.
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We've already had some folks bring up bringing in McDaniels as OC.


I'd be all for bringing Marvin back if he wanted to come back.