Fabian Washington, Our New Cb

[justifythegame]

You guys must be joking if you think Washington is going to replace Rolle. Washington will definitely be given opportunities to show us what he has to offer. I think we want to see if the Ravens system can turn this guy into the 1st round pick he was supposed to be. But mainly this finally gives us some more depth, if C-Mac gets injured or Rolle gets epilepsy symptoms we won't have to depend on a guy like pittman. Although i think our back up corners last year were still young and did not have enough experience to be effective last year, i still think they have potential with more expereince. But basically i think there is a good chance we pick a corner or OT in the first round next year. C-Mac is great but he is aging and Rolle (who is overly criticized because he plays next to pro bowl DBs but is better than some starting corners in the nfl) only has a year or two left and we need a 1st round corner there.

[rayvenfan_52]

Well its not like Washington had anyone to teach him and give him pointers in Oakland. Now he has 2 very well experienced corners that can help him to be as great as they are. With the speed of Champ Bailey and possibly Skills of Rolle or McAllister he could very well be a great Corner in the NFL.

[Bullrush]

They also traded Randy Moss for a 4th Rounder last year, so under that logic Randy Moss is a bust too

I believe Randy Moss has made the Pro Bowl once or twice. Either you're being a huge homer right now or you don't really know what you're talking about.

[rayvenfan_52]

naw Bullrush I think he was bein sarcastic about whoevers comment he was referring to.

[Raven07]

i still think that drafting a CB in the draft would have been our best bet, but you know what they say... "a watched pot never boils" meaning everyone was hoping or expecting one thing like us Drafting McKelvin and what they do? traded picks and got a QB.....

still...i think that (even with our new CB being as young as he is) having that little extra part to a player in which you can really "mold" him from the very very beginning (right out of the draft) would be the best option or best fit to go with because you would get to mold him into YOUR own style, YOUR system and YOUR team, Your way, at your own speed.

[rayvenfan_52]

Well Fabian Washington will compensate it enough for me even though we didnt draft Leodis. So Im alright. But we got a couple things guaranteed coming with Fabian. 1) is that he has experienced a couple years in the NFL. 2) he has shown great potential and has the ability to excel at being a DB on our team. Especially him learning from guys like McAllister and Rolle.

[Raven07]

i can agree with you to a certain extent that it does offer at least some comfort that we at least Thought about it enough to even address our most desperate Defensive Need ,i thought, considering the amount of blown coverages and mis-haps were made from our "back up" players filling in.

But again, this guy is only 1 man......and in being 1 man, he surely cannot do a multitude of duties all at once....there NEEDS to be more depth at a position like that of CB.....more so than 1 player.......yea that 1 player may help out a tad on one side of the football...but what about the other side of the defensive field?...because the possibility of Rolle AND Chris going down with injury like last year is always there and a possibility.....therefore we NEED to bring in more than just 1 man....in which i feel, we let an opportunity to do just that in this draft. slip through our fingers.

[rayvenfan_52]

Well other then Fabian we also got Walker. Ivy will still be at Nickel. So it works out a little. Besides I dont think McAllister and Rolle want to be out again on another season. So they probably did all they could so they wont be injury prone in the season to come.

[Raven07]

even still......Walker's past performances prior to coming here say something, but that could very well change with a new team and atmosphere, who knows but again...you can never truly have enough at one position. and i know that Rolle and Chris are hoping to have injury free season but the possibility is always there and must be taken into consideration here.

[rayvenfan_52]

yea ur right. lets hope the injury list stays under 5 people this whole season. but Im still happy we got Fabian.

[Raven07]

thats a main priority with all teams heading into each and every season because you never want to see players go down with any type of injury, let alone.....One of your own.

[ChiseBack(CB)]

You have to ask "Who would have been a better addition in the 4th round?" and treat Washington like a 4th rounder value-wise. I don't care if people are calling him a bust, he has a ton of value and potential for a 4th rounder.

EDIT: Also, keep an eye on WR Arman Shields who was drafted by the Raiders with the Ravens pick...

[neepo13]

i can agree with you to a certain extent that it does offer at least some comfort that we at least Thought about it enough to even address our most desperate Defensive Need ,i thought, considering the amount of blown coverages and mis-haps were made from our "back up" players filling in.

But again, this guy is only 1 man......and in being 1 man, he surely cannot do a multitude of duties all at once....there NEEDS to be more depth at a position like that of CB.....more so than 1 player.......yea that 1 player may help out a tad on one side of the football...but what about the other side of the defensive field?...because the possibility of Rolle AND Chris going down with injury like last year is always there and a possibility.....therefore we NEED to bring in more than just 1 man....in which i feel, we let an opportunity to do just that in this draft. slip through our fingers.

How many DB's do you want them to bring in? They drafted two DB's, although they were safties. They still have the 6 CB's we had last year and they bought in Walker and Washington. I am all for preparing but we just dont have the roster space to have 100 DB's, thats pretty much the only way you can make sure that you are not down to your last DB. They have enough depth at corner right now, so that they dont have to worry about it until it comes time to release Ivy or Rolle. 8 CB's assuming we keep all of them is more then enough. You have 4 starting CB's, your main two and then your nickle and dime back. As of right now all of them have atleast one backup.

[minford]

Props to anyone who knew much about him before the trade. I for one knew nothing but am very excited with the stuff I'm hearing.

[Marcus]

He's a beast in Madden LOL.

85 overall 98 speed

[ragnorok99]

How many DB's do you want them to bring in? They drafted two DB's, although they were safties. They still have the 6 CB's we had last year and they bought in Walker and Washington. I am all for preparing but we just dont have the roster space to have 100 DB's, thats pretty much the only way you can make sure that you are not down to your last DB. They have enough depth at corner right now, so that they dont have to worry about it until it comes time to release Ivy or Rolle. 8 CB's assuming we keep all of them is more then enough. You have 4 starting CB's, your main two and then your nickle and dime back. As of right now all of them have atleast one backup.

They also had to fix depth at OL and, to a lesser extent, LB. The personnel department helped both of those on top of the secondary. I don't think they could have done a better job fixing the depth problems.

[Raven07]

How many DB's do you want them to bring in? They drafted two DB's, although they were safties. They still have the 6 CB's we had last year and they bought in Walker and Washington. I am all for preparing but we just dont have the roster space to have 100 DB's, thats pretty much the only way you can make sure that you are not down to your last DB. They have enough depth at corner right now, so that they dont have to worry about it until it comes time to release Ivy or Rolle. 8 CB's assuming we keep all of them is more then enough. You have 4 starting CB's, your main two and then your nickle and dime back. As of right now all of them have atleast one backup.

im all for the "preparation" of the CB's we already have on the active roster as well, im also all for, having more than a few (1-2 players) whom can fill our "depth" need at CB..and whom possess the physical and mental Qualities that are demanded at the CB position...... Pittman was getting burned practically every time he was thrown to, so we needed better quality back up players whom can fill the void and be a bit more "sound" meaning, he could step in and play as good if not better than the other.

but all in all it was a good draft.

[neepo13]

im all for the "preparation" of the CB's we already have on the active roster as well, im also all for, having more than a few (1-2 players) whom can fill our "depth" need at CB..and whom possess the physical and mental Qualities that are demanded at the CB position...... Pittman was getting burned practically every time he was thrown to, so we needed better quality back up players whom can fill the void and be a bit more "sound" meaning, he could step in and play as good if not better than the other.

but all in all it was a good draft.

If he was good enough to play as well or better the Cmac or Rolle, he would be a starter somewhere else. You want us to have Champ Baily or Asante Samuel as back ups right. Not going to happen with our cap situation. We have good value for the money. We have 3 guys that could be starters on another team in Cmac, Rolle, and Washington. Walker is a solid backup and for the most part so is Ivy. Pittman, Prude, and Martin have improved and no 3rd or 4th round rookie is going to come in and do a better job then what any of them can do. Nor will they come in and be as good or better then Cmac, Rolle, or Washington. Bottom line is we have the guys we need.

[ravensfan144]

I think picking up Washington and Walker this offseason was great. this gives us the depth needed in the secondary by guys with game experience.... also lets remember Washington came from oakland with Rob Ryan as the D-cord, he and rex run very similar defenses so he should be able to step right in

[Raven07]

i never said i wanted players like Bailey or Samuel on this team you brought that upon yourself, i said that, having players whom have that kind of athletic potential come/fill in for the injured player(s) to continue to perform at a high standard, would definitely be something in which the Ravens would be more than happy with here.

Having a player whom can step in whenever needed and perform well, not losing a step would be a vital key because, there would be less worry and we could continue to make plays on a play in and play out basis.

[neepo13]

i never said i wanted players like Bailey or Samuel on this team you brought that upon yourself, i said that, having players whom have that kind of athletic potential come/fill in for the injured player(s) to continue to perform at a high standard, would definitely be something in which the Ravens would be more than happy with here.

Having a player whom can step in whenever needed and perform well, not losing a step would be a vital key because, there would be less worry and we could continue to make plays on a play in and play out basis.

You said you want guys that can come in and play at the same level or better then Mac Or Rolle. The same level or better would be Champ Bailey or Samuel. You are not going to get a bunck of guys at backup that can play that well. They are backups for a reason. You are going to lose a step when they come in thats just the name of the game and imo its silly to think that we would have a rookie in the 3rd or 4th round that could do that if Mac or Rolle went down. Washington and Walker have the experience and we know what we are going to get from them. We have enough talent at DB.

[minford]

You said you want guys that can come in and play at the same level or better then Mac Or Rolle. The same level or better would be Champ Bailey or Samuel. You are not going to get a bunck of guys at backup that can play that well. They are backups for a reason. You are going to lose a step when they come in thats just the name of the game and imo its silly to think that we would have a rookie in the 3rd or 4th round that could do that if Mac or Rolle went down. Washington and Walker have the experience and we know what we are going to get from them. We have enough talent at DB.

At least he never said anything about getting Lito Shepherd. Those threads were annoying.

[rayvenfan_52]

I was actually glad he didnt come to the Ravens. Im happy with Fabian though. He wont get burnt down the field thats for sure.

[austrianravensfan]

He's a beast in Madden LOL.

85 overall 98 speed

yeah, that's how I got to know about him

[Ravens52]

I'm so happy about getting him. He's blazing fast but there are some negatives about him. He struggles against tall and physical receivers. But other than that he should play great in Rex's defense system.

[rayvenfan_52]

maybe good in Rex's system but become greater with C-Mac and Rolle teaching him.

[FerrariFan87]

I believe Randy Moss has made the Pro Bowl once or twice. Either you're being a huge homer right now or you don't really know what you're talking about.

Yes, I know this... I was being sarcastic

[MDmid14]

A very good pickup looking at athletic ability. I'd still rather sign an established CB for immediate relief, but I'll trust Oz and his ability to find diamonds in the rough.

[rayvenfan_52]

Ozzie has never failed at finding Diamonds in the rough. Hopefully Fabian will be that one and replace Cmac or Rolle in the years to come.

[FerrariFan87]

Just watched the interview of Fabian by Mike Duffy and he seems like a really solid guy... he chose #31 (Jamal's old number) so it will be nice seeing it out there again, except on the other side of the ball.