Joe Flacco--merged Threads

[Troy Smith IS the future..]

ok, ok, I'll admit, I am a little bit biased on this haha, but by all means Sam, yes, the best quarterback should be on the field opening day, I look forward to the pre-season...

[samic]

I dont think so, Every QB on the Roster has a shot at starting, Troy Smith can not flash his Heisman Trophy and expect to start.He did not show He was a starter last year, so this year He has to show that He's has learned and if He beats Flacco out then Ill be excited, If the O-Line plays anywhere like it did last year then Troy Smith should have the Job.

are you kidding me? he played better in two starts and showed more pormise than boller did. maybe you didn't watch his two starts properly. but from what i saw i was instantly more comfortable with him behind center than boller. now that flacco is here, he going to compete against two first round picks in boller and flacco. in terms of overall investment, how fair of a shot do you think the organization is going to give him? i don't care what anyone says, flacco was not a first rounder, esp. not that high!!

[Toreno]

I like the pick.

Boller isn't going to be in Balt. for long after the end of the 08 season. So, the Ravens will have two QBs that both are good.

[Sam]

ok, ok, I'll admit, I am a little bit biased on this haha, but by all means Sam, yes, the best quarterback should be on the field opening day, I look forward to the pre-season...

AMEN! This will be a FUN training camp & pre-season!

[Toreno]

What are the chances of us taking a WR in the third round? Someone who is a deep threat WR.

[samic]

if flacco beats troy for the job then it will be well deserved, but think of the other way around, if a fifth rounder beats our first overal pick for the job and keeps it for years to come what will that say about our #1 pick in the 2008 draft?

[smashmouth]

are you kidding me? he played better in two starts and showed more pormise than boller did. maybe you didn't watch his two starts properly. but from what i saw i was instantly more comfortable with him behind center than boller. now that flacco is here, he going to compete against two first round picks in boller and flacco. in terms of overall investment, how fair of a shot do you think the organization is going to give him? i don't care what anyone says, flacco was not a first rounder, esp. not that high!!

LOL i laugh at this, Troy Smith DID NOT play well, we will not dive into that, People saying that a 1st rounder is a guarenteed starting job at the QB postion really need to observe what really goes on. They PRACTICE, If the guy is not showing in PRACTICE that He's a starter then He WILL NOT start its a simple as that. J. Russell in Oakland was the NUMBER ONE overall draft pick and He sat out, Brady Quinn of Clev was expected to be a top 10 pick last year but dropped to 22 in the 1st and HE was the 3rd stringer on the roster and then moved to 2nd after Anderson got the start. What makes you think that there not giving Troy a chance? Because He's not showing in Practice that He's a starter, and you expect them to hand the job over to him?

Boller is a really good QB, problem is He is not consisitant enough. Bollers game against the Pats was better then Smith's 2 starts put together.

[samic]

LOL i laugh at this, Troy Smith DID NOT play well, we will not dive into that, People saying that a 1st rounder is a guarenteed starting job at the QB postion really need to observe what really goes on. They PRACTICE, If the guy is not showing in PRACTICE that He's a starter then He WILL NOT start its a simple as that. J. Russell in Oakland was the NUMBER ONE overall draft pick and He sat out, Brady Quinn of Clev was expected to be a top 10 pick last year but dropped to 22 in the 1st and HE was the 3rd stringer on the roster and then moved to 2nd after Anderson got the start. What makes you think that there not giving Troy a chance? Because He's not showing in Practice that He's a starter, and you expect them to hand the job over to him?

Boller is a really good QB, problem is He is not consisitant enough. Bollers game against the Pats was better then Smith's 2 starts put together.

i don't know what you saw, but i saw troy managing that game like he was starting for a while. he wasn't tripping on his linemen feet, or throwing interceptions, when his receivers weren't open he tried to run it or threw it away, when he took a hit he bounced right back up and went back in the huddle like a man. so i don't know what you're talking about. boller's game was great yes, but it was also an emotional game at home, and how often do you see boller performing like that. don't be silly, smith showed a lot more promise in his first two starts thank boller did in his. i know that two games may be a little to go on but don't be foolish and say that Troy played rubbish and did not show he can lead this offense because his own teamates were very impressed with his performance. and why is it everyone is saying that Troy isn't showing anything in practice? is there some secret that the rest of us don't know?

[Troy Smith IS the future..]

LOL i laugh at this, Troy Smith DID NOT play well, we will not dive into that, People saying that a 1st rounder is a guarenteed starting job at the QB postion really need to observe what really goes on. They PRACTICE, If the guy is not showing in PRACTICE that He's a starter then He WILL NOT start its a simple as that. J. Russell in Oakland was the NUMBER ONE overall draft pick and He sat out, Brady Quinn of Clev was expected to be a top 10 pick last year but dropped to 22 in the 1st and HE was the 3rd stringer on the roster and then moved to 2nd after Anderson got the start. What makes you think that there not giving Troy a chance? Because He's not showing in Practice that He's a starter, and you expect them to hand the job over to him?

Boller is a really good QB, problem is He is not consisitant enough. Bollers game against the Pats was better then Smith's 2 starts put together.

Essecially the part where he lobbed the ball into triple coverage, late, up 4 points, in field goal range...oh and got picked off.

[smashmouth]

i don't know what you saw, but i saw troy managing that game like he was starting for a while. he wasn't tripping on his linemen feet, or throwing interceptions, when his receivers weren't open he tried to run it or threw it away, when he took a hit he bounced right back up and went back in the huddle like a man. so i don't know what you're talking about. boller's game was great yes, but it was also an emotional game at home, and how often do you see boller performing like that. don't be silly, smith showed a lot more promise in his first two starts thank boller did in his. i know that two games may be a little to go on but don't be foolish and say that Troy played rubbish and did not show he can lead this offense because his own teamates were very impressed with his performance. and why is it everyone is saying that Troy isn't showing anything in practice? is there some secret that the rest of us don't know?

I watched this guy NOT be able to get a FIRST DOWN THE ENTIRE FIRST HALF OF HIS FIRST START!! you call that good? are you serious? Throwing Interceptions: I watched this guy THROW IT TO THE OTHER TEAM 6 TIMES, HIT THEM STARIGHT IN THE HANDS, they diddnt catch them and i have no idea why, I do know the Pittsburgh CB cant catch a cold if He tried.

Edit: also He fumbled it for 4 times and lost 3 of them! I like this kid so dont take it the wrong way, but the Kid is very raw with a crap load of talant, If this guy sits and learns for another year or so then He will do well if they tailor a playbook around him.

[Ravens52]

Do you really think that our first round pick will get beat out for the starting job? Probably not. I hate this first round pick

[samic]

i would really like to know what he thinks troy didn't do well in his first two starts that he is saying troy didn't play well. you really have to evaluate the entire play not just what the qb did, so i'd love to hear what he has to say.

[smashmouth]

Essecially the part where he lobbed the ball into triple coverage, late, up 4 points, in field goal range...oh and got picked off.

It was against double coverage for one, and He tried to Throw it up and high where only Figures could catch it, if you remember right the wind was blowing at what? 35 MPH?

[smashmouth]

i don't know what you saw, but i saw troy managing that game like he was starting for a while. he wasn't tripping on his linemen feet, or throwing interceptions, when his receivers weren't open he tried to run it or threw it away, when he took a hit he bounced right back up and went back in the huddle like a man. so i don't know what you're talking about. boller's game was great yes, but it was also an emotional game at home, and how often do you see boller performing like that. don't be silly, smith showed a lot more promise in his first two starts thank boller did in his. i know that two games may be a little to go on but don't be foolish and say that Troy played rubbish and did not show he can lead this offense because his own teamates were very impressed with his performance. and why is it everyone is saying that Troy isn't showing anything in practice? is there some secret that the rest of us don't know?

Yea the Secret is when Harbaugh and Ozzie plus Coach Cam ALL said they are not Impressed with the QB's on the Roster and will address it this off season. I think we was big on taking Matt Ryan but had Joe Flacco as a close second( and so did alot of other people).

[samic]

I watched this guy NOT be able to get a FIRST DOWN THE ENTIRE FIRST HALF OF HIS FIRST START!! you call that good? are you serious? Throwing Interceptions: I watched this guy THROW IT TO THE OTHER TEAM 6 TIMES, HIT THEM STARIGHT IN THE HANDS, they diddnt catch them and i have no idea why, I do know the Pittsburgh CB cant catch a cold if He tried.

Edit: also He fumbled it for 4 times and lost 3 of them! I like this kid so dont take it the wrong way, but the Kid is very raw with a crap load of talant, If this guy sits and learns for another year or so then He will do well if they tailor a playbook around him.

right, i'd love to see flacco do any better with the oline troy started with. the pocket was collapsing on him very quickly, and as the game progressed her settled down pretty well and did a decent job. in the pitt game yeah he did throw a couple that could have been picked off, but they weren't and he won that game for us. as i said the pocket was collapsing on him that's why he had to roll out, not because he couldn't see over the line like some have suggested. he ran where necessary and threw the ball away when the play was dead. i simply can't agree with you that he didn't play well. if boller turned in the same performance no one would say that he played crap.

[smashmouth]

right, i'd love to see flacco do any better with the oline troy started with. the pocket was collapsing on him very quickly, and as the game progressed her settled down pretty well and did a decent job. in the pitt game yeah he did throw a couple that could have been picked off, but they weren't and he won that game for us. as i said the pocket was collapsing on him that's why he had to roll out, not because he couldn't see over the line like some have suggested. he ran where necessary and threw the ball away when the play was dead. i simply can't agree with you that he didn't play well. if boller turned in the same performance no one would say that he played crap.

This is the same O-Line that McNair and Kyle Boller played with.

[Troy Smith IS the future..]

It was against double coverage for one, and He tried to Throw it up and high where only Figures could catch it, if you remember right the wind was blowing at what? 35 MPH?

Figures is what, 5' 11"? Not exactly the "up top" type of reciever, more of a speedster. The third defender was nearby...but if the wind was blowing at 35 mph (I'll admit, I did not remember), that's even more reason why not to lob it into double (triple imo) coverage...

[samic]

Yea the Secret is when Harbaugh and Ozzie plus Coach Cam ALL said they are not Impressed with the QB's on the Roster and will address it this off season. I think we was big on taking Matt Ryan but had Joe Flacco as a close second( and so did alot of other people).

yeah but i also read where cam said that he was impressed with troy and was devising plays esp. for him.

[samic]

This is the same O-Line that McNair and Kyle Boller played with.

and they both ended the season on IR!! so what does that tell you.

[neepo13]

This is the same O-Line that McNair and Kyle Boller played with.

And they both sucked behind it.

[neepo13]

The Bears and Vikings just passed on QB's in the second round. Flacco is looking like a HUGE reach every pick that passes by.

[BuckWilds]

It's not Smith vs Flacco vs Boller... It's all Ravens playing here. Some of you sound like Philly fans, ready to eat up the players at a moment's notice. Romo started in his 3rd or 4th season. Brady waited his turn. Relax and let the situation develop. There's nothing wrong with having a couple of good QB's for a few years.

Let them play.

[Eurich]

We could have got Henne or Brohm with our 2.

Trash pick.

[Guest Birdfan]

Flacco is looking like a HUGE reach every pick that passes by

But we have no way of knowing which team might have picked Flacco if we didn't move back up. There's a lot of phoning going on between war rooms.

[theFRANCHISE]

At the end of the day, we are all united in our support of the men who strap on their helmets for the purple-and-black.

Fact of the matter is, Joe Flacco is now one of those men.

And whether or not you agree with the pick, you can't deny that IF Flacco wins games on Sundays, you'll be forgetting all about how "questionable" this pick may be.

We are all just spectators. We're fans who are average people who don't have the type of football knowledge that these professionals in the draft room do.

I trust the draft room's judgment, and I trust that they, along with the coaching staff, know what is best for this team.

John Harbaugh has put his full trust in Cam Cameron in revamping this offense. Cam Cameron clearly stated to Ozzie Newsome & Co. that he needed another QB to work with to fully maximize his scheme's potential. All Ozzie & Co. can do is bring in the talent. It's up to the coaching staff now to make it work, and it's up to the players to put in the effort.

So when it's all said and done, let's just detach ourselves from the situation and let things unfold as they may.

[Eurich]

We shouldn't trade our stratey because some new young coach comes in.

We take BPA we don't trade up to pick a high risk QB.

[adio1988]

At the end of the day, we are all united in our support of the men who strap on their helmets for the purple-and-black.

Fact of the matter is, Joe Flacco is now one of those men.

And whether or not you agree with the pick, you can't deny that IF Flacco wins games on Sundays, you'll be forgetting all about how "questionable" this pick may be.

We are all just spectators. We're fans who are average people who don't have the type of football knowledge that these professionals in the draft room do.

I trust the draft room's judgment, and I trust that they, along with the coaching staff, know what is best for this team.

John Harbaugh has put his full trust in Cam Cameron in revamping this offense. Cam Cameron clearly stated to Ozzie Newsome & Co. that he needed another QB to work with to fully maximize his scheme's potential. All Ozzie & Co. can do is bring in the talent. It's up to the coaching staff now to make it work, and it's up to the players to put in the effort.

So when it's all said and done, let's just detach ourselves from the situation and let things unfold as they may.

i agree let it play out, everyone always dislikes the new guy until they get to know him. Give him a chance, he's going to win games for you. Then everyone on here will magiclly say they all loved him from the beginning, just let him prove himself, he said in his press confrence thats all he wanted to do

i love how all the delaware people, or the people that have seen him play are trying to convince everyone else he's the really deal. Its not worth the effort cause he's going to do it himself

[smashmouth]

Figures is what, 5' 11"? Not exactly the "up top" type of reciever, more of a speedster. The third defender was nearby...but if the wind was blowing at 35 mph (I'll admit, I did not remember), that's even more reason why not to lob it into double (triple imo) coverage...

Figures had them both beat in the back of the end zone, I have no idea where In you opinion it was triple coverage, there was 2 defenders behind figures. He was blwing into the wind and it sailed way too short, while I do agree it was a bad descion anyways.

[smashmouth]

We could have got Henne or Brohm with our 2.

Trash pick.

There not as good as flacco IMO.

[#20]

The happiest man in the draft room when we selected Joe seemed to be offensive coordinator Cam Cameron. Cameron had spent a lot of time studying Flacco, plus spending time with him.