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Why Do The Chargers Always Beat Indy But We Cant

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I dont think I remember the Colts ever beating San Diego, Not in the Playoffs, Not even when they were 13-0. How do they do it. They not only make Peyton Manning look like an average QB, but they make him look like a Average QB having a bad game. 4 INT's tonight, I also remeber a game where he threw 6 INT's against them. THe bad thing about this is Norv Turner just saved his job so we cant get him as an OC now to find his recipe of beating INDY.
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How about, asking this : Why can't the Chargers Beat the Ravens, but they can beat INDY?

they match up well with Indy, lots of team speed especially at the LOS. Lots of SIZE on the outside ( offense and Defense) and a QB that is one of the best.
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[quote name='CNC' timestamp='1291049561' post='553999']
I know they can't beat us. THat wasn't the question.
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I answered the question.
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How about.. why do the Chargers suck in September/October and get insanely hot in November/December? They haven't lost a December game since 2005.
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[quote name='UMDan' timestamp='1291049703' post='554003']
How about.. why do the Chargers suck in September/October and get insanely hot in November/December? They haven't lost a December game since 2005.
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With their backs against the wall and jobs on the line, Norv and the talent rev up. That's the best explanation I can come up with.
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Most times the Ravens defense has stood tall against Manning and Indy's offense. However, the Ravens offense has just stalled in pretty much every meeting. Why?

Indy's defense uses it's speed to negate our lumbering power rushing game, and they do a great job at taking away a lot of the quick outs and comebacks that the Ravens use in the passing game, plus the have some pretty good (to say the least) pass rushers as well.
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The Chargers have beaten Indy more often than the Ravens have because of several factors:

1) The San Diego offense has always matched up better against Indy's notoriously-porous defense
2) The Chargers probably know something about the Colts' tendencies on both offense and defense that few people have caught
3) The Chargers have coincidentally played Indy late in the year in every meeting of the Philip Rivers era; with the injuries continually plaguing the Colts in November, this is more to San Diego's advantage than Indy's
4) The Ravens offense, prior to last year's regular-season showdown, has never been potent enough to capitalize on the weaknesses of Indy's defense
5) Peyton Manning has historically had a field day against Rex Ryan's defenses, which is why the Ravens played the Colts much closer last season than in years past

There's probably more reasons, but really, I boil it just down to great gameplanning by the Chargers, who seem to get more hyped for this game as a statement game than most other games on their schedule. The timing of each matchup definitely helps, as I also mentioned.
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Some teams just have another teams number.

Colts own Ravens
Ravens own Texas (think they're 5-0 there)
Chargers own Colts
Steelers own the Chargers
Patriots own the AFC North (22-2 is unbelievable)
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Why cant we beat the Bungles?[img]http://boards.baltimoreravens.com/public/style_emoticons/default/34853_brickwall.GIF[/img]
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[quote name='Purple Nurple' timestamp='1291050626' post='554018']
I think we could beat Indy this year if it comes down to it.
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Hopefully it won't, but if it does, it better be in B-more.
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The Chargers running game doesn't fold when they play the Colts, like ours does. For years, when we match up, I've heard how our "power running game" will have it's way with their "small defense". Hasn't happened.

They're team is so fast, they can shut us down and make it look easy. I hate playing the Colts.
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[quote name='berad' timestamp='1291055178' post='554086']
The Chargers running game doesn't fold when they play the Colts, like ours does. For years, when we match up, I've heard how our "power running game" will have it's way with their "small defense". Hasn't happened.

They're team is so fast, they can shut us down and make it look easy. I hate playing the Colts.
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That's the most frustrating thing about facing them. Other teams gash them on the ground with seeming ease yet the Ravens just can't. The one game it looked the running game was rolling('06 season's divisional play-off game), Billick took the ball out of Jamal's hands.
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San Diego seems to own the Colts because of their pass rush ( I am wishing we still had Antwan Barnes ) and because they have very physical CBs. Its probably partially mental and bad luck as well.
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We cant beat them because we can barly hold a lead, every loss we have it has been in the 4th quarter with a minute left.
Even last year when the Colts were undefeated we were winning that game and when the 2minute warning in the 4th came, Manning threw to Clark for the TD and we lost
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Manning loves throwing right to the Chargers DBs and the Chargers have a quick strike offense that can keep up and beat Indys Tampa 2 defense.
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[quote name='True' timestamp='1291050416' post='554012']
Some teams just have another teams number.

Colts own Ravens
Ravens own Texas (think they're 5-0 there)
Chargers own Colts
Steelers own the Chargers
[b]Patriots own the AFC North (22-2 is unbelievable)[/b][/quote]

OMG! Say it aint so!? :(
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I think the main reason is that the Chargers have far better CB's than us and can play tight coverage while maintaining pressure. We usually get the pressure but Manning seems to always have someone open against us.
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Matchups! It's all about matchups..some teams just have the right ingredients to always play well against certain other teams.

Trends are made to be broken though, I have no doubt the Ravens will eventually beat the Colts. haha
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That would be because our offensive coordinator becomes extremely predictable, and ultra conservative every time we play the Colts. He refuses to try and stretch the field at all. Always runs on first down (which they know is coming so it gets stuffed), won't pass until 3rd and a mile and then everyone in the world knows what we have to do, so then they come on an all out blitz and Flacco either gets sacked, throws it away, or completes a pass 8 yards short of the first down because the pressure is in his face before the recievers can get open beyond the 1st down marker. I sat there in my hotel room in Myrtle Beach last year during the playoff game and predicted Cam's every call nearly perfect. If we're gonna beat the Colts, we've gotta go at them hard, firing the deep ball (especially on 1st down once in a while), with a blow'em out attitude, and and down slow down until the final whistle. I guess his problem is, he tries TOO hard to control the clock and keep Manning off the field, instead of worrying about what an offense is SUPPOSED to do........ SCORE TD'S! Oh and, for the defense....... quit trying to blitz so much, you're not gonna sack Manning..... let's worry about coverage on those dangerous recievers instead.
Just look at the Ravens on 1st down, all the way through... same old, same old, until later in the 4 quarter when the Colts Defense has a comfortable 17 point lead, so they just go into prevent mode.... or "let's just sit back and wait to get an int" mode. http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2010011600/2009/POST19/ravens@colts/recap#tab:analyze/analyze-channels:cat-post-playbyplay
Cam takes a "stupid pill" before every Colts game. Cavanaugh was the same way.
My worthless 2 cents...............
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Colts don't match up well against SD on offense. (I have no reason why)
The Colts offense struggles and is forced to make plays and makes mistakes.(fumbles/INT) I just hope the Colts can win some games, make the playoffs and someone knocks off SD before the Colts have to play them again.
The defense this last game played well, only gave up 1 SD offensive TD.

Against the Ravens, the Colts offense does well against the Ravens defense. Manning seems to be able to read the defense better than he can against SD.
Do me a favor knock off the Chargers in the playoffs please.
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[quote name='funky141' timestamp='1291130753' post='555106']
Do me a favor knock off the Chargers in the playoffs please.
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Why? So the Colts can knock us off in the playoffs because Cam is going to use his same old clock control mentality like he always does against them, and ABSOLUTELY REFUSE to change his gameplan until it's way too late? I dread playing the Colts in the playoffs. Not because I think they are better, but the way we play them. I remember when the Ravens D kept the Colts out of the endzone and we STILL lost 15-9 or something like that, and if I remember right, Stover missed 3 fg's for us that game. It doesn't seem to matter how well the defense plays, the offense will just play that much worse.
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