Pennington To Baltimore?

[FerrariFan87]

What would you guys think of bringing in Chad Pennington for a 2nd day draft pick and then focusing in on Defensive back and line along with playmakers on offense in the draft? It was reported on the Mark Viviano show that a possible deal could be in the works... I say go for it because I really don't want to see us trade up to get Ryan as I feel he definitely is not worth even the 8th overall pick. Personally I want us to trade down and acquire more picks, possibly even trade with the Eagles for Lito Sheppard.... your thoughts?

[Bullrush]

Chad? He couldn't even beat out Kellen Clemens. We need a franchise QB, not a guy who's gonna lose his job in 1-2 years again. Sheppard would be a nice pick up but that would cost us an early 2nd round pick, but i guess it would be worth it.

[Ravens52]

He's a fine QB but way to injury prone. I rather get a young QB in the draft then bring a injury prone one

[Black&Purple]

Absolutely not. We need a franchise QB, and a veteran worth keeping for years to come.

[Bullrush]

There are rumors emanating from the Baltimore Ravens complex about a potential Chad Pennington trade.

The rumor is based on the Jets picking Boston College quarterback Matt Ryan with the sixth pick of the first round.

If the Jets pick Ryan, according to the rumor, which can't be substantiated, the Jets would then trade Pennington to the Ravens.

What the Jets would get in return from the Ravens is unclear. Perhaps a second round pick.

http://nyj.scout.com/2/748714.html

The last sentence makes absolutely no sense. We're not gonna give up an early 2nd round pick for a guy like Pennington. Maybe a 2009 2nd round pick (probably a late one) but even that would be too much. Pennington is barely worth a 4th round pick.

[Sub-Zero]

damn Oz, you can set better smokescreens than this!

[Guest Crowdog89]

Just say no to Chad.....dude is damaged goods....even when healthy......The Ravens have two guys on the roster now with much better arms.....

I hope this is one of those "never comes to fruition" rumors....

[neepo13]

If the price is right, I wouldnt mind it. He's on the downside of his career and has suffered many injuries but so was McNair when we bought him. I wouldnt want Pennington as a starter but having an extra security blanket couldnt hurt. And he could finish mentoring Smith and Boller because thats the other thing we lost when we lost Steve.

[slugz]

One Word or shall i say name Troy

[rayvenfan_52]

If the price is right, I wouldnt mind it. He's on the downside of his career and has suffered many injuries but so was McNair when we bought him. I wouldnt want Pennington as a starter but having an extra security blanket couldnt hurt. And he could finish mentoring Smith and Boller because thats the other thing we lost when we lost Steve.

I agree with you on this. Itd be nice if McNair still did a small little mentoring to those 2 anyway. But hed be good too.

[Bullrush]

We will not give up a 3rd or 4th round pick for Pennington to back somebody up. You can scratch that one out. If we do trade for him he will be our starter for another 1-2 seasons and then Troy will probably take over. I don't see this happening. Harbaugh wants to rebuild this team. He's not gonna bring in another old guy who can't stay healthy (see McNair).

[Bazard]

NNNNNNNNOOOO!!!!!!! He suck's has no arm strength highly accurate but no arm strength not even functional arm strength. If he had arm strength he might be a top 3 quarterback but he doesn't and it kills him.

[Mista T]

I cannot see what Pennington (who would cost a low round pick in a trade) would add that free agents Culpepper or Leftwich couldn't provide. We should instead create a roster spot for a young developing QB. Any of Ryan, Henne, Flacco, Brohm, Woodson, Brennan, etc would be fine by me as a #3 clipboard carrier and potential 2009 backup. Boller is the strong armed & affordable vet, and Smith is the low-priced backup, so we should be set at #1 and #2.

If Boller is not re-signed in 2009, Pennington could make sense then, e.g. if the rookie is not exceeding expectations to challenge for #1. But I don't see any advantage to signing a vet today. And if Pennington isn't around, youbetcha that there will be a number of available FAs, such as Chris Redman, Billy Volek, etc., who could come in for a year's lease.

[justifythegame]

OMG, that would be AWESOME.

I don't like the jets but i am a huge Pennington fan. He is obviously no peyton manning but pennington is a very good QB. And what i can't stand is that NY fans are complete idiots, they yell and complain about everything. Another thing i hate hearing is that he has no arm, he obviously doesn't have a brett favre arm but he has a good enough arm to be an NFL QB. When you put up great stats and theres not much left to pick at NY fans will start saying bull like that.

When pennington plays, he gets that team into the playoffs, when pennington doesn't play that team never gets into the playoffs. Its plain and simple. no matter what, those fans will never be happy with anything, all they will do is complain and complain. I remember 1 year someone got stabbed in the bathroom for wearing a pennington jersey. that same year pennington threw 3120 yards, 69% completions, 22 TDs and only 6 picks and 104.2 passer rating. He was one of the highest paid QBs too. But fans just want either a peyton manning or carson palmer like qb and wont settle of anything less. I mean its hard enough for some teams out there (like us) to get a qb half as good us pennington and ny is complaining. The only thing is he is a little injury prone but NY is not complaining about that, they are complaining that he sucks. Clemens was terrible when he played, in about a year he is going to take the same crap pennington had to take but at least pennington was actually good. Anyways i would love to get pennington here. He would be a great starter for us or at least until Smith gets a little more time on the bench to learn. We need to add a 3rd QB, and pennington would bring us a veteran that has experience at least.

[Raven07]

What would you guys think of bringing in Chad Pennington for a 2nd day draft pick and then focusing in on Defensive back and line along with playmakers on offense in the draft? It was reported on the Mark Viviano show that a possible deal could be in the works... I say go for it because I really don't want to see us trade up to get Ryan as I feel he definitely is not worth even the 8th overall pick. Personally I want us to trade down and acquire more picks, possibly even trade with the Eagles for Lito Sheppard.... your thoughts?

i dont think that deal like this would take "full" shape and work itself out....in my oppinion, Pennington has had his moments of greatness (much like Boller) but for the most part...he's at best an "average" type quarterback, one to which wants to start...and to be honest with you, not the "proper" mentor for Troy to look off of and learn from.....Pennington makes alot more mistakes and/or mishaps than we would actually want.. and to which if we brought him in here, i feel that, it would actually do more harm than good....

i think that with Troy and Boller battling it out, really is the best thing RIGHT now. but will need a quarterback at some point before the season starts up. thus marks a valid option of us drafting a QB in the later rounds with one of our later round picks.......not our first, that should be reserved for a Position thats Truly in need.... Cornerback, with the way Rolle's Health is at this point in time.... we need that added depth and Great talent to whom can step in and fill the void without losing a step in play making ability.

[Bazard]

OMG, that would be AWESOME.

I don't like the jets but i am a huge Pennington fan. He is obviously no peyton manning but pennington is a very good QB. And what i can't stand is that NY fans are complete idiots, they yell and complain about everything. Another thing i hate hearing is that he has no arm, he obviously doesn't have a brett favre arm but he has a good enough arm to be an NFL QB. When you put up great stats and theres not much left to pick at NY fans will start saying bull like that.

When pennington plays, he gets that team into the playoffs, when pennington doesn't play that team never gets into the playoffs. Its plain and simple. no matter what, those fans will never be happy with anything, all they will do is complain and complain. I remember 1 year someone got stabbed in the bathroom for wearing a pennington jersey. that same year pennington threw 3120 yards, 69% completions, 22 TDs and only 6 picks and 104.2 passer rating. He was one of the highest paid QBs too. But fans just want either a peyton manning or carson palmer like qb and wont settle of anything less. I mean its hard enough for some teams out there (like us) to get a qb half as good us pennington and ny is complaining. The only thing is he is a little injury prone but NY is not complaining about that, they are complaining that he sucks. Clemens was terrible when he played, in about a year he is going to take the same crap pennington had to take but at least pennington was actually good. Anyways i would love to get pennington here. He would be a great starter for us or at least until Smith gets a little more time on the bench to learn. We need to add a 3rd QB, and pennington would bring us a veteran that has experience at least.

THAT WOULD SUCK!!!!

[bce086]

Pennington is a joke... Ill be pissed if this happens, which I HIGHLY doubt will.

[Raven07]

despite what his stats say and whatever else says about him......he just isnt a real good fit here in Baltimore, he is a quarterback in which makes more mistakes than we would necessarily want from our quarterback and we need that one guy to whom can come in, make plays, make it happen, move the ball and the chains..and most of all out offensive points on the score board. i've watched Chad over the years (when i had the chance) and to me, he wouldnt seem like a good or perfect fit here.

now, im not saying that he's a bad quarterback by any means, just saying that he just wouldnt fit our style and what we want to do is all im saying....whenever Chad is/was on the field...the offense played the same way with him as without him, there wasnt really a big Change in terms of what they're doing and how they will do it.

[FerrariFan87]

This rumor really only has some weight IF the Jets select Matt Ryan at #6, otherwise it probably will not happen but the possibility is still just a bit intriguing because we could use a smart, capable, veteran QB...

[justifythegame]

despite what his stats say and whatever else says about him......he just isnt a real good fit here in Baltimore, he is a quarterback in which makes more mistakes than we would necessarily want from our quarterback and we need that one guy to whom can come in, make plays, make it happen, move the ball and the chains..and most of all out offensive points on the score board. i've watched Chad over the years (when i had the chance) and to me, he wouldnt seem like a good or perfect fit here.

now, im not saying that he's a bad quarterback by any means, just saying that he just wouldnt fit our style and what we want to do is all im saying....whenever Chad is/was on the field...the offense played the same way with him as without him, there wasnt really a big Change in terms of what they're doing and how they will do it.

more mistakes? and just what are these mistakes? he is definately a significant upgrade from boller. maybe the argument should be he is just not a huge playmaker maybe, but what are these mistakes? we have been through a ton of QBs and the only QB who has done what you've described was Steve McNair in 06. The playcalling and the protection has to change if you want a QB to take control and "move the chains". The offense played the same without him? What are you taking about? They lost games when he didn't play, and won games when he did! Lets just go back to last year alone, when Clemens played he threw 10 picks and only 5 tds! This is the kind of performance Kyle Boller gives. Also look at that WRs and how they got involved, when Chad plays both WRs have good games, but when Clemens plays they are lucky if even 1 WR has a good game. By the end of the season the coach wanted Chad back.

If you guys think you are going to go get a Carson Palmer or something you are wrong. Thats never going to happen. We are a defensive team, and most of our salary is being spent there and rightfully so. We need to balance our team a bit more, but you certainly will not get a QB like carson palmer or peyton manning. we cannot afford someone like that. we need a QB who can be consistant on offense and make no mistakes and not turn the ball over like what Steve McNair did for us in 06. Boller has had his chances and the problem is that he turns the ball over. We can't have that, but i would love to have him as a 3rd string. We need to bring in a veteran to compete for the starting job, and the FAs available suck. If the Ravens are interested in Chad that would be a great move.

[Purple and Black Forever]

I dont think Pennington would fit here at all. He gets hurt easily and with the O-Line we had last season (I think they will be better this year) he would be hurt the first game and we wouldnt have improved at all over last season. If we get a veteran QB, I think we go with either Culpeper of Leftwich. But it would still need to be a competition for the starter. Though I dont think there is any significant upgrade to qb available right now to either Smith or Boller. The FA are not that great, Maybe we could get Chris Simms from Tampa Bay, I think he is the odd man out and he has taken his team to the playoffs before.

[justifythegame]

I dont think Pennington would fit here at all. He gets hurt easily and with the O-Line we had last season (I think they will be better this year) he would be hurt the first game and we wouldnt have improved at all over last season. If we get a veteran QB, I think we go with either Culpeper of Leftwich. But it would still need to be a competition for the starter. Though I dont think there is any significant upgrade to qb available right now to either Smith or Boller. The FA are not that great, Maybe we could get Chris Simms from Tampa Bay, I think he is the odd man out and he has taken his team to the playoffs before.

now thats a legit argument.

Cullpepper is terrible though. What i can't stand about this guy is that he had a good season thanks to Randy Moss, and plenty of QBs have flourished thanks to Randy Moss. Then he has the ego, he says he wants Randy Moss out and that he can still prove the he is the actual star. Then what happened? He played like half the season, threw 12 picks and 6 tds and was horrible. Then he gets injured and for some reason blames everything on an injury he got after performing so bad. I want Boller playing over this guy and he would provide little or no competition.

Leftwich, i just don't know what to make of him anymore, i doubt he would provide any competition either. And you can make the same argument he is also injury prone, he has never been able to finish a season. I have always liked his potential, but again i would definately give smith and boller the start over him. But it would be funny getting him considering we were trying to get him but got Boller instead and somehow we end up with both guys. And i definitely don't consider him an experienced veteran that could bring something to our QBs.

Chris Simms....all i can say is that that guy sucks. They were so desperate for a QB at the time they just over rated him like crazy. Trent Dilfer has taken his team to the superbowl but its not like we consider him great. The Tampa Bay defense is my favorite D next to the Ravens.

[neepo13]

now thats a legit argument.

Cullpepper is terrible though. What i can't stand about this guy is that he had a good season thanks to Randy Moss, and plenty of QBs have flourished thanks to Randy Moss. Then he has the ego, he says he wants Randy Moss out and that he can still prove the he is the actual star. Then what happened? He played like half the season, threw 12 picks and 6 tds and was horrible. Then he gets injured and for some reason blames everything on an injury he got after performing so bad. I want Boller playing over this guy and he would provide little or no competition.

Leftwich, i just don't know what to make of him anymore, i doubt he would provide any competition either. And you can make the same argument he is also injury prone, he has never been able to finish a season. I have always liked his potential, but again i would definately give smith and boller the start over him. But it would be funny getting him considering we were trying to get him but got Boller instead and somehow we end up with both guys. And i definitely don't consider him an experienced veteran that could bring something to our QBs.

Chris Simms....all i can say is that that guy sucks. They were so desperate for a QB at the time they just over rated him like crazy. Trent Dilfer has taken his team to the superbowl but its not like we consider him great. The Tampa Bay defense is my favorite D next to the Ravens.

Oh, yeah. So Aaron Brooks and Andrew Walter had great seasons while throwing to Randy Moss. Point well taken but it is a bit of an overstatement.

His last name is Simms. Did you really expect the media to judge him based on his play on the field before crowning him prince? I bet they do Elway's kid the same way if he goes to the NFL.

[smitty]

culpepper is going to green bay possibly so i don't think we'll see him here.

[rayvenfan_52]

Woulda been nice to see Culpepper here though. Just for back up or something.

[die_hard_raven]

Absolutely not. We need a franchise QB, and a veteran worth keeping for years to come.

I agree, HELL NO! Don't want him, don't need him.

[rayvenfan_52]

Yea me neither.. I thought hed be nice but I changed my mind.

[Reed_4_President]

I think to bring a VETERAN in is a WAY BETTER IDEA then using our first round pick on Matt Ryan if he is available or someone else.... WE HAVE TROY SMITH he showed he can PLAY the last few games of the year!. To bring a VETERAN in like PENNINGTON to help TROY PROGRESS would be a way better choice and decision in my opinion. WE DO NOT NEED ANOTHER QB FROM THE DRAFT!! i don't get why these guys on the NFL NETWORK think we will go draft one or we will why not give troy a chance!?. ..We gave BOLLER PLEANTY...

[Reed_4_President]

I think we try and get old man Kurt Warner the guy can still play he proved it to us during our 13-3 season or it was last year when they put him in with the 2 minute drill and drove down on us scored and almost came back and would have if they put him in a bit earlier.... he would get TROY ready to tear it up at QB!! the guy already showed me in my opinion he has the HEART the Arm and the smarts he played his butt off the few games he played last year and did AWESOME!!. He is like Mike Vick with his legs but can actually throw the ball and an accurate one at that!.. its a shame people do not talk about him much because he is only 6 deuce.. so is Drew Brees and look at all his success! give him a chance!! i am sure most of you guys if we could wouldn't mind Drew Brees a raven he is only 6 deuce as well....

[ragnorok99]

I don't think Pennington's high injury rate would mesh well with a young, learning offensive line.

I do think we need a 3rd QB, but I don't see Pennington moving.