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[Raven07]

me personally feel like Troy will be the option to go with seeing how the future has come upon us much sooner than any of us anticipated. but remember not to put TOO much pressure on him like we did with Boller a few years ago.

[austrianravensfan]

Bullrush, on Apr 17 2008, 05:16 PM, said:

What's the point of making this public then?

I just think we need more then two QBs on our roster and with not many of them available in Free Agency it seems very likely to me that we will get one at some point in the Draft.

[GermanRavensFan]

Very sad moment for the Ravens!
I (We) wish him the best for his future!!

But now to the situation:
Now that steve is gone I think we can expect a trade for Lito Sheppard.
We definitely need a quaterback... but we also need a cornerback!
I think that we are going to draft a QB, Matt Ryan would be great.

But what are we going to do with our CB situation???
Lito would be the only solution, wouldn't he??

[Raven07]

in addressing our quarterback situation......there will be other quarterbacks that will be available later on in the draft, so if we dont use our first pick on one then there's no need to start panicing. if you remember, the Ravens opted to have 2 Quarterbacks on the active roster and it didnt seem to phase anything. there was a few scares here and there but overall, we were pretty much safe. and with all that said....and with the option of Drafting a quarterback later on in the draft as an option.....we could use our first pick on a position in which seems to be the MOST depleted....that being Cornerback and with Rolle's health being relatively un-certain....draft a CB as our first pick seems to be the best option/choice to go with here. as for Lito.........well there are other teams that are really looking at lito for their team, thus makes us not the number one spot to take him if the Eagles do indeed trade him and so nothing is guarenteed. plus with the added Cap space we will now have, its almost a no brainer that the Ravens will Sign Suggs to a Long-Term contract extension as well as Sign Bart Scott to a contract extension (whom is in the last year of his contract and the Ravens and Scott's agent have begun contract negotiations)...besides, you can never have too young of a player and having fresh legs and a fresh start at CB (to a certain degree and Rolles Haealth) will ultimately (i feel) have immediate short and long term positive effects with us drafting CB play maker whom can step in at any time and maintain or exceed expectations. (leodis McKelvin)

[caselli916]

This comes as a huge surprise to me. It was probably time for McNair to retire but most athletes in the same position as him would have tried to keep playing. Since he did the right thing I think its only fair we do the right thing and keep him around as an assistant QB coach if we decide to make Troy the full time starter. He would be a great mentor and locker room guy to have on the coaching staff.

Since we have 9 picks in the draft we should definitely make a move for Lito. The whole lito/harbaugh connection would be sweet plus we are in desperate need of a solid CB. I say we send them our 3rd round pick n maybe a future pick. ABSOLUTELY not our first our second pick those are way to valuable. Look at past trades like Moss and our own Mcgahee, late round picks for guys who are studs in this league. You dont trade your first or second round pick especially with it being top 10! GO RAVENS!!!

[austrianravensfan]

GermanRavensFan, on Apr 17 2008, 05:20 PM, said:

Very sad moment for the Ravens!
I (We) wish him the best for his future!!

But now to the situation:
Now that steve is gone I think we can expect a trade for Lito Sheppard.
We definitely need a quaterback... but we also need a cornerback!
I think that we are going to draft a QB, Matt Ryan would be great.

But what are we going to do with our CB situation???
Lito would be the only solution, wouldn't he??

We shouldn't take Ryan, cause we would have to overpay for him and we could very likely get a great QB in round 3-4, I'm thinking Andre Woodson
with Troy we already have our franchise QB anyway

With the cornerback class this yaer, wich is pretty salet, we don't need to spend any pick on Lito

Edited by austrianravensfan, 17 April 2008 - 11:39 AM.

[Ravens52]

It's hard to believe that he's gone. Hopefully he has a great retirement. He had a great career, too bad he didn't get that Super Bowl

[Raven07]

he hasnt gotten that superbowl YET...key word there....YET....just because you couldnt or didnt get a ring during your playing days, doesnt mean that your dreams of getting that ring are shattered....many players whom havent won that One big game in the past have retired and come back as coaches, only to have THAT pathway lead them to the superbowl.

[Ravens52]

Raven07, on Apr 17 2008, 12:45 PM, said:

he hasnt gotten that superbowl YET...key word there....YET....just because you couldnt or didnt get a ring during your playing days, doesnt mean that your dreams of getting that ring are shattered....many players whom havent won that One big game in the past have retired and come back as coaches, only to have THAT pathway lead them to the superbowl.

hmmm, you may have a good point there. Maybe Steve would come back as some kind of coach or something with the Ravens.

[Corvus]

dammit I just hope we decide to pick up Brohm or Flacco and not Ryan...

[smitty]

caselli916, on Apr 17 2008, 11:36 AM, said:

Since we have 9 picks in the draft we should definitely make a move for Lito. The whole lito/harbaugh connection would be sweet plus we are in desperate need of a solid CB. I say we send them our 3rd round pick n maybe a future pick.

i dont think we can trade compensatory picks which our 3rd pick is one of.

[FerrariFan87]

Anyone know how much cap space this opens up???

[die_hard_raven]

I think a veteran QB is the right way to go. I see people on the board say we need a proven QB but here's the whole point. NO QB coming out of college has proven anything @ the pro level, not one of them. I'm not saying we shouldn't pick based on need but some people say Troy is young, not proven and not ready and that is fine and I'm cool with that opinion but what the hell would make a rookie QB with no NFL experience anymore worthy than Troy.

A QB can have all the tools and potential but that doesn't translate into NFL success! How many top QB picks have been disappointments! Look @ Alex Smith. You can't trade someone with a high price tag if they suck and it can ruin a franchise for years. If we can add depth at the QB great cause we need it oh so badly but it's not fair for people to say we don't know what Troy can do, he's not proven and then say take a QB with the 1st pick and expect college to translate into NFL success. That is one of the hardest positions to draft for because you can have all the tools and intangibles and still suck. With running back, receiver, other positions are easier to draft for, not to say they don't disappoint but the QB hype can kill people. Dave Carr with be in the unemployment line soon, wasn't he a top pick?? Let's not be so quick to jump to judgement.

Whether a rookie or vet I think everyone on this board can agree we need depth at QB. The question is whether we allow Troy a chance to grow or assume he can't lead without being given a chance and then going a different direction.

Last but not least madd props to (McNair) a true warrior that unfortunately fell to us way beyond his prime but I still appreciate the hope he gave us in 06', had they got past the Colts he could have had his ring and rode off into history but it was not meant to be. I hope he stays around and helps the young guys in some form of leadership role

[ragnorok99]

Man, Steve was one of the players that originally got me interested in the NFL, watching him play the Ravens back in the day...sad to see him go.

[JonM229]

ragnorok99, on Apr 17 2008, 12:37 PM, said:

Man, Steve was one of the players that originally got me interested in the NFL, watching him play the Ravens back in the day...sad to see him go.

I hated playing against Steve McNair. He always found ways to beat us. I saw some of the press conference on ESPNews. What a class act. I'll certainly miss him.

[starkRAVENmad]

[quote name='die_hard_raven' date='Apr 17 2008, 01:27 PM' post='43401']
I think a veteran QB is the right way to go. I see people on the board say we need a proven QB but here's the whole point. NO QB coming out of college has proven anything @ the pro level, not one of them. I'm not saying we shouldn't pick based on need but some people say Troy is young, not proven and not ready and that is fine and I'm cool with that opinion but what the hell would make a rookie QB with no NFL experience anymore worthy than Troy.



I agree. Isn't there a veteran QB out there that we can look at? If not then I think we need to stay with who we've got on our roster uand see what Troy has to offer with Kyle as the backup. The little Troy played last year wasnt too bad. Shouldnt we at least see what Troy can do for a season? As if there wont be another great up and coming Qb to draft next year. We CANNOT start over each year with a new QB and "see how he's going to do", so why not give it Troy this year? And am I the only one who thinks we need an awesome receiver that can give us more then 10yrs on a catch?

[theFRANCHISE]

I think it's somewhat ironic (but not surprising) that this announcement has generated a lot of responses centered moreso around the draft than Steve McNair's retirement itself.

I think that's indicative of the fan base's desire to look towards the future, which is perfectly fine.

But frankly, on my end, I'd rather just let McNair have today to himself. Just today. No draft talk, no QB plans, nothing -- just for today.

Although there was a lot of harsh (and certainly justifiable) criticism of McNair's play last season, I still think that we should all just appreciate McNair for what he was able to do the season prior, and look back fondly on the better times with #9 under center, whether it be for the Ravens or the Titans/Oilers.

I'll miss watching Steve McNair on Sundays playing with the type of old-school grit and determination at the QB position that is almost extinct in today's game. If Super Bowls were won based solely on toughness and the sheer will to win, McNair would definitely have more than a couple under his belt.

Thanks for the memories, #9.

[die_hard_raven]

FerrariFan87, on Apr 17 2008, 12:07 PM, said:

Anyone know how much cap space this opens up???

Very very good question! Does anyone know? If we got alot more cap space and could somehow get Lito Shepard from the Eagles we would really have alot of flexibility with the #8 pick. That would put us in a strong position to build for the future because it could be easier to draft the best player available instead of drafting by high need like the CB position. We have 9 days before the draft so let's see how this unfolds.

[B-moreRavensfan88]

completely agree with you, theFRANCHISE, this day should be all about McNair. What a warrior.. I'm still shocked he's retiring, I really thought he was going to come back for one more year. I'm glad he got to retire on his own terms though, not many players get the opportunity to do that.

[LilyRaven]

Steve McNair will be greatly missed, I wish him well.