How Are We Gonna End Up Now ..

[Ravensdiciple96]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1289542374' post='537994']
wow lots of negativity in this thread. I see a really good team that can finish the season 13-3. No really hard road games left ( Houston has an abysmal Defense), and if we take care of business at home ( and we should, we have a better team that Pitt and NO)we sit at 13-3, Division champs, and home field.
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Are you the same one who predicted 14-2 earlier in the week? Come on now open your eyes 13-3 lmao wake up man, what team are you watching that will end up 13-3? It damn sure aint the Ravens, not playing this inconsistent and especially playing like they do on the road. If they don't show any kind of life against N.O., Pitt, Houston, Cincy and hell even Cleveland they can kiss any hope of a playoff spot goodbye. I damn sure wont miss seeing them play in the playoffs either, what to get bounced out in the first round and waste a spot for a team that would do something with it. Damn these fools got me hot, why the hell can't they get their crap together and play like the team they are on paper should play!!!

[PurpleChaos]

Ravens will make the playoffs
Once again roadtripping all the way
Good chance we win the first game
Get exposed in the second suffering a loss
Giants vs Steelers in a gritty Super Bowl
Here's to hoping big blue wins!
Ray Lewis calls it quits and retires after doing some soul searching between the disappointing end to this season and the direction the league is goin in.
There will not be football next year(200percent reason why I cannot stomach listening that Big Jen and company won for such a lengthy period)


Ironic how traditionally the D always bailed out the O
Now that we have some O (when Flacco isn't the poster boy for a deer caught in the headlights) the D has little left in the tank anymore to hold up their end.
***Note to Mattison
You can't polish a turd.

[darklight1216]

The only sure wins that I see are against Carolina and Tampa. I'm predicting losses to NO and Pitt, and the @ Browns, vs Cincy, and @ Texans are toss ups.

9-7 to 11-5 both of which would exceed my offseason expectation of 8-8.

I'll give up on the dream and concede the division to Pittsburgh. Go Pats (both to beat Pitt and win their division)

[TXRaven]

nothing has changed guys. We lost to a very talented team playing on a short week on the road, with suspect officiating. Its one game. Does it hurt. yes but the Ravens goal has not change. and thre really are no other teams setting the league on fire right now.

[ZRayvenZ]

[quote name='Shammy' timestamp='1289541480' post='537936']
next up

@carolina then...
tampa comes to town then pittsburgh after that we go to houston then finish up home with the saints then to cleveland and home with cinci

were capable or winning all these games i think we lose to houston tho considering we dont play very good on the road 12-4
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We're also capable of losing ALL of those games, cept maybe Carolina, maybe. Based on how terrible the team looks at this point, my guess is 9-7 again. Could be worse since the Browns are getting better while we regress and we always have trouble with the Bungles. That could put us at 7-9. No surprises, we have coaching problems, not just on defense. We used to have a really tough team, i miss that.

"WASTED TALENT!

[dpatrickguy]

At least this lost was to an NFC team. I think 11-5 is a realistic possibility for the end of the season

[Tighthead420]

11-5 Is reasonable. Assuming the secondary can hold up against the rest of the schedule, the only two games lost will be Pitt and NO. The Ravens have proven they can't beat no-means-no, and the NFL officiating conspiracy will allow Brees to throw for 350 yards and 3 TD. Yep...[b]THAT[/b] conspiracy where the Ravens play their typical mediocre football against a good team and it's still the refs' fault. Oh wait...wrong thread.

[Rinbee]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1289542374' post='537994']
wow lots of negativity in this thread. I see a really good team that can finish the season 13-3. No really hard road games left ( Houston has an abysmal Defense), and if we take care of business at home ( and we should, we have a better team that Pitt and NO)we sit at 13-3, Division champs, and home field.
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We may have a good team on paper but on the field they do not play to their strengths, they show their weaknesses too easily, they cannot adjust, and they don't play 60 minutes. Often the mistakes they make are just plain stupid and not the result of a good defensive play against them. They kill themselves over and over and over again.

[Rinbee]

9-7 at best. Pitt has momemtum. NO is finding its feet again, Cleveland away scares me and even though houston is sliding I don't feel good about any away game anymore.

[PuRock]

[quote name='Rinbee' timestamp='1289575729' post='538550']
9-7 at best. Pitt has momemtum. NO is finding its feet again, Cleveland away scares me and even though houston is sliding I don't feel good about any away game anymore.
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9-7 at best huh? At best would be 13-3/12-4 at worse 6-10/7-9.

We just went on the road on a short week. Played the top team in the NFC. Hell we even had the lead with 1 minute left on the road. And we are now at best 9-7?

Pitt will be a tough game. NO might be finding their feet again but they are not built for the outside in the cold. The one game they had last year outside that mattered was against the Redskins in early December, which they should've lost. Cleveland is always tough, because they are divisional. But Houston is a shell of a team relying on just a run game.

To say we will definitely lose all 4 of those games is extremely brash.

[Jamal]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' timestamp='1289542822' post='538020']
I just want to win the division and have home field advantage. Is that just too much to ask?
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It is when your in the Steelers division.

[gabefergy]

[quote name='ZRayvenZ' timestamp='1289568940' post='538353']
We're also capable of losing ALL of those games, cept maybe Carolina, maybe. Based on how terrible the team looks at this point, my guess is 9-7 again. Could be worse since the Browns are getting better while we regress and we always have trouble with the Bungles. That could put us at 7-9. No surprises, we have coaching problems, not just on defense. We used to have a really tough team, i miss that.

"WASTED TALENT!
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I dont know what team you have been watching, but if we go 3-4 down the stretch I would be shocked. We have a couple hard home games, but the road schedule is much easier. No team has played a harder schedule (except maybe Mia) and we have looked really good throughout most of the season.

Do you forget beating the Steelers at Pitt and the Jets at NY, and close last second losses to NE and Atl are nothing to be ashamed of.

This is definitely a playoff team, we just have to hope it all clicks at the right time. Dec 5 is going to be a HUGE game.

We could certainly go 13-3, 12-4 is probably a bit more realistic. I just hope we can make some adjustments to our pass defense if we run into Peyton Manning or Phllip Rivers in the playoffs.

[Rinbee]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1289576070' post='538560']
9-7 at best huh? At best would be 13-3/12-4 at worse 6-10/7-9.

We just went on the road on a short week. Played the top team in the NFC. Hell we even had the lead with 1 minute left on the road. And we are now at best 9-7?

Pitt will be a tough game. NO might be finding their feet again but they are not built for the outside in the cold. The one game they had last year outside that mattered was against the Redskins in early December, which they should've lost. Cleveland is always tough, because they are divisional. But Houston is a shell of a team relying on just a run game.

To say we will definitely lose all 4 of those games is extremely brash.
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Why do people look at one game only? You have to see the overall pattern. We have not looked like a true winner most of the season. Sure we could be worse or better than 9-7, but that's my prediction. After Buffalo I will not take home games for granted and I really don't see us knocking off Pitt and NO. Maybe we will get it together and sweep the home schedule and pick up a few more road wins, but I do not see the Ravens as a complete team right now and I don't think they will be this season.

[PuRock]

[quote name='Rinbee' timestamp='1289581607' post='538756']
Why do people look at one game only? [b]You have to see the overall pattern.[/b] We have not looked like a true winner most of the season. Sure we could be worse or better than 9-7, but that's my prediction. After Buffalo I will not take home games for granted and I really don't see us knocking off Pitt and NO. Maybe we will get it together and sweep the home schedule and pick up a few more road wins, but I do not see the Ravens as a complete team right now and I don't think they will be this season.
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But you have to look at the overall pattern of the league as well. Sure we didn't look elite, but there aren't any team in the AFC that does. It's a dog fight to the end. NE got smashed by CLE in NE. Pittsburgh barely eked a win in Miami, Jets needed a kicker to go out to squeek by the Lions. This is the AFC this year. You win games, you lose some.

Anyteam can beat anyteam in the AFC this year. So JUST dismissing our team is fine and dandy, but we ares still in the thick of everything football.

[ZRayvenZ]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1289579858' post='538713']
I dont know what team you have been watching, but if we go 3-4 down the stretch I would be shocked. We have a couple hard home games, but the road schedule is much easier. No team has played a harder schedule (except maybe Mia) and we have looked really good throughout most of the season.

Do you forget beating the Steelers at Pitt and the Jets at NY, and close last second losses to NE and Atl are nothing to be ashamed of.

This is definitely a playoff team, we just have to hope it all clicks at the right time. Dec 5 is going to be a HUGE game.

We could certainly go 13-3, 12-4 is probably a bit more realistic. I just hope we can make some adjustments to our pass defense if we run into Peyton Manning or Phllip Rivers in the playoffs.
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I would love to be wrong about the 9-7. I am watching the Ravens for sure man. So, So, Manning and Rivers are the only 2 QBs from the AFC your worried about in the playoffs? With our D, I'm worried about the QBs on the path to the playoffs. We better find a way to protect Flacco long enough to generate at least 30 points. Joe is gonna be lucky if he doesn't get hurt this year behind this line.

[darklight1216]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1289579858' post='538713']
We could certainly go 13-3, 12-4 is probably a bit more realistic. [b]I just hope we can make some adjustments to our pass defense if we run into Peyton Manning or Phllip Rivers in the playoffs.[/b]
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Or Ben Roethlisberger or Matt Schaub or David Garrard or anyone not named Chad. (I'm not even confident they can contain Palmer anymore).

[Romo Ravens]

[quote name='Jamal' timestamp='1289577795' post='538633']
It is when your in the Steelers division.
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Why do we always have to play little brother to them man? It wasn't their division last year, and let's make that the same for this year. Coaching staff and defense needs to get their **** together.

[darklight1216]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' timestamp='1289590002' post='538976']
Why do we always have to play little brother to them man? It wasn't their division last year, and [b]let's make that the same for this year.[/b] Coaching staff and defense needs to get their **** together.
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Baltimore didn't have that much to do with that really; it's not like they swept the series or anything. Pitt lost to some of the worst teams in the league; a team like that can't win any division outside of the West. The Ravens weren't exactly world beaters themselves.

Pitt on the other hand is capable of snatching the divisional title from good teams such as the 2008 Ravens. This season the Steelers aren't all that good, but they have been lucky in the scheduling, and sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.

Hmm... I'm not quite sure where I was going with that.

Anyways, not only are the Ravens looking up to the Steelers, they still haven't beaten Cincy yet so they stand a chance of being swept for at least the third consecutive season.

[Polamaluisabeast_43]

[quote name='darklight1216' timestamp='1289590481' post='538984']
Baltimore didn't have that much to do with that really; it's not like they swept the series or anything. Pitt lost to some of the worst teams in the league; a team like that can't win any division outside of the West. The Ravens weren't exactly world beaters themselves.

Pitt on the other hand is capable of snatching the divisional title from good teams such as the 2008 Ravens. This season the Steelers aren't all that good, but they have been lucky in the scheduling, and sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.

Hmm... I'm not quite sure where I was going with that.

Anyways, not only are the Ravens looking up to the Steelers, they still haven't beaten Cincy yet so they stand a chance of being swept for at least the third consecutive season.
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I dont think the Steelers have been lucky with the schedule at all especially when they had to play their first 4 games without Ben Roethlisberger against pretty good teams in Atlanta,at Tennessee,at Tampa who we are finding out now is pretty decent, and then of course the Ravens who beat them at home. The difference so far with the Steelers and the Ravens in the schedueling is the Steelers have been able to beat two teams that the Ravens have lost too so far this year in Cincy and Atlanta. The schedule is what it is and you play whoever is on it no matter if your home or away. And if youre a good team you will have a chance to beat anybody anywhere,if youre an average team or not a very good team you have a chance to lose to anybody any given week. You guys can sit there and say the Steelers got to play Atlanta at home and that's why they were able to win, well it works both ways seeing that the Ravens get the Saints at home in December while the Steelers had to play them down in New Orleans in a game they absolutely needed to win.

I been saying this for weeks on here that the game the Ravens lost early in the year in Cincy could really come back to bite them because if they dont beat the Steelers now in 3 weeks they will no longer control any tiebrakers they could have potentially still had within the division had they won that game. Sunday's game with the Patriots becomes even more important now for the Steelers seeing that they know now with the Raiders and Bills up next on their schedule after the Patriots this Sunday that if they win against the Pats there is a very good chance they will have a 1 game lead on the Ravens going into their rematch on December 5th with a chance to go up 2 games in the division and win another tiebraker should they knock off Baltimore.

[XxSizzleXx]

13-3

[Romo Ravens]

Just imagine how good we would be if we had the soft schedule like the Steelers do all the time, and had the referees on our side for every game... like the Steelers.

Undefeated?

[Jamal]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' timestamp='1289593432' post='539079']
Just imagine how good we would be if we had the soft schedule like the Steelers do all the time, and had the referees on our side for every game... like the Steelers.

Undefeated?
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The Steelers win the division because they are the better team. Not because of the schedule.

They had one of the toughest schedules in the NFL their last SB run.

[RavensAllTheWay]

[quote name='darklight1216' timestamp='1289588925' post='538938']
Or Ben Roethlisberger or Matt Schaub or David Garrard or anyone not named Chad. (I'm not even confident they can contain Palmer anymore).
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We contained the hell out of Palmer back in week 2 and that was on the road with a short week and without Reed.

[Romo Ravens]

[quote name='Jamal' timestamp='1289593669' post='539088']
The Steelers win the division because they are the better team. Not because of the schedule.

They had one of the toughest schedules in the NFL their last SB run.
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Shhh, I'm trying to make the Steeler fan bite lol

[Rinbee]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' timestamp='1289593432' post='539079']
Just imagine how good we would be if we had the soft schedule like the Steelers do all the time, and had the referees on our side for every game... like the Steelers.

Undefeated?
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Are you aware that we play identical schedules with the exception of 2 games?

[Romo Ravens]

[quote name='Rinbee' timestamp='1289594104' post='539108']
Are you aware that we play identical schedules with the exception of 2 games?
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It was sarcasm, read the post above you bud.

[RavensAllTheWay]

[quote name='Polamaluisabeast_43' timestamp='1289592679' post='539055']
I dont think the Steelers have been lucky with the schedule at all especially when they had to play their first 4 games without Ben Roethlisberger against pretty good teams in Atlanta,at Tennessee,at Tampa who we are finding out now is pretty decent, and then of course the Ravens who beat them at home. The difference so far with the Steelers and the Ravens in the schedueling is the Steelers have been able to beat two teams that the Ravens have lost too so far this year in Cincy and Atlanta. The schedule is what it is and you play whoever is on it no matter if your home or away. And if youre a good team you will have a chance to beat anybody anywhere,if youre an average team or not a very good team you have a chance to lose to anybody any given week. You guys can sit there and say the Steelers got to play Atlanta at home and that's why they were able to win, well it works both ways seeing that the Ravens get the Saints at home in December while the Steelers had to play them down in New Orleans in a game they absolutely needed to win.

[b]I been saying this for weeks on here that the game the Ravens lost early in the year in Cincy could really come back to bite them because if they dont beat the Steelers now in 3 weeks they will no longer control any tiebrakers they could have potentially still had within the division had they won that game. Sunday's game with the Patriots becomes even more important now for the Steelers seeing that they know now with the Raiders and Bills up next on their schedule after the Patriots this Sunday that if they win against the Pats there is a very good chance they will have a 1 game lead on the Ravens going into their rematch on December 5th with a chance to go up 2 games in the division and win another tiebraker should they knock off Baltimore.[/b][/quote]
I must say, you are completely correct. If we want to win this division, we almost definitely have to beat you guys. Hopefully for the Ravens, last nights loss ignites a fire in us because it was excruciating. More disappointing than the previous two losses. I mean that's the type of loss that changes a teams entire season, sometimes for the good and sometimes for the bad.

But back to the Steelers, if you guys beat us in week 13 and beat the Pats this Sunday, it will be very hard to win the AFC North for us because then we'd have to rely on teams like the Bills, Bengals and Browns to beat you guys. On top of that, Flacco will have to shake off his rough history with Cincy, we'd have to go into Cleveland and not fall into their trap like the Saints and Pats.

But good news for the Ravens, the only thing we need to do to clinch the tiebreaker is beat you guys in Week 13. At that point, it's anyones game.

[Polamaluisabeast_43]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' timestamp='1289594374' post='539121']
It was sarcasm, read the post above you bud.
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Werent you the same guy that was on here a few weeks ago talking about how the Steelers had beaten nobody so far this season and were ripping on the Falcons for not being that good and getting smacked in Philly. If memory serves me correct I told you the Falcons would beat the Ravens didnt I??

[Romo Ravens]

[quote name='Polamaluisabeast_43' timestamp='1289594635' post='539132']
Werent you the same guy that was on here a few weeks ago talking about how the Steelers had beaten nobody so far this season and were ripping on the Falcons for not being that good and getting smacked in Philly. If memory serves me correct I told you the Falcons would beat the Ravens didnt I??
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Didn't the Steelers have the Falcons at home in the first week and had the whole offseason to prepare while the Ravens only had three days to get ready, and you take one of those days away for travel while the Falcons are one of the hardest teams to beat at home? You're weak, see you in three weeks.

BTW, go Patriots.

[PuRock]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' timestamp='1289594831' post='539139']
Didn't the Steelers have the Falcons at home in the first week and had the whole offseason to prepare while the Ravens only had three days to get ready, and you take one of those days away for travel while the Falcons are one of the hardest teams to beat at home? You're weak, see you in three weeks.
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Falcons at our place would've been different. If they had to travel on a short week and play against a good home team (and Ryan is far from great on the road).

Steelers beat them in a close one in Pittsburgh well rested with time to practice a gameplan.

That's why I hate comparing who beat who.