Dear Ozzie, Part 2

[flynismo]

Fix this damn defense.

[ravensfan160]

Amen to that.

[Romo Ravens]

Fix these damn coordinators. Boot both of them after the season.

[Bltravens]

Ugh, that was a poorly called game by Mattison, you KNOW Ryan is going to force the ball to White, you KNOW THAT. To let him go for 12 catches 138 and 2 TDs is inexcusable.

[ravensfan160]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1289538880' post='537702']
Ugh, that was a poorly called game by Mattison, you KNOW Ryan is going to force the ball to White, you KNOW THAT. To let him go for 12 catches 138 and 2 TDs is inexcusable.
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Especially when the other receivers are average at best.

[Shawn`]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' timestamp='1289538481' post='537643']
Fix these damn coordinators. Boot both of them after the season.
[/quote]

You can't be serious.

It was the coordinators fault Oher let everyone through the line?

It was the coordinators fault CB's got dished by Roddy White throughout the whole game?

It was coordinators fault the defense let ATL drive down the field 91 yards then 80 yards in 50 seconds?

Have you ever once considered that maybe our players just got outplayed?

[rlh445]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1289538880' post='537702']
Ugh, that was a poorly called game by Mattison, you KNOW Ryan is going to force the ball to White, you KNOW THAT. To let him go for 12 catches 138 and 2 TDs is inexcusable.
[/quote]

Well, Roddy's a great wideout and when he's just shoving over defenders with no flags from the refs, he's just gonna keep doing it and be 'wide open'.

[1/28/01]

Coaches are not the issue.....it was the players this evening. Why does everyone love to blame the coaches/coordinators?

[FlaccoFlicker]

any suggestion who on our secondary could have covered White to keep him from dominating this game with Ryan?

[Jamal]

I have consistently been a Mattison supporter, but I'd love to see us bring back Marvin Lewis. He most likely wont be brought back by the Bengals.

We have way too much talent on defense to be giving up all these 4th quarter leads.

[Ravensfanspls]

[quote name='Shawn`' timestamp='1289538992' post='537713']
You can't be serious.

It was the coordinators fault Oher let everyone through the line?

It was the coordinators fault CB's got dished by Roddy White throughout the whole game?

It was coordinators fault the defense let ATL drive down the field 91 yards then 80 yards in 50 seconds?

Have you ever once considered that maybe our players just got outplayed?
[/quote]I feel like the Players on D could have played better. But that being said we are not that bad on skill on D, And the thing about ravens defense for the past 10 years is we make people better by our play calling and what we do it has not always been on skill.

I personally think we are missing Rex this year. I'm not saying Mattison is not the man for the job but we defiantly need to look over film and look at our play calling and see whats going on here. Though the refs can bite a big one.

[Shawn`]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1289539155' post='537733']
Coaches are not the issue.....it was the players this evening. Why does everyone love to blame the coaches/coordinators?
[/quote]

Lack of actual football knowledge. In their minds all the players are great except the ones that make the big mistakes.

To them coordinators just sit there and call plays, ANYONE can do that. They do it in Madden all the time by themselves.

[Nadkins52]

1 word and one word only........ CORNERS

[Bltravens]

[quote name='Shawn`' timestamp='1289538992' post='537713']
You can't be serious.

It was the coordinators fault Oher let everyone through the line?

It was the coordinators fault CB's got dished by Roddy White throughout the whole game?

It was coordinators fault the defense let ATL drive down the field 91 yards then 80 yards in 50 seconds?

Have you ever once considered that maybe our players just got outplayed?
[/quote]
Disregarding the last TD to White, there should have been 2 guys on White all game so that the CB underneath could be more physical with White at the LOS and force Ryan to look somewhere else. Why let Ryan target White, what was it 15 times tonight? Thats ridiculous and he flat dropped 2 passes. You have to take away Ryans security blanket. Its obvious Ryan has to goto him to win through the air.

[Romo Ravens]

[quote name='Shawn`' timestamp='1289538992' post='537713']
You can't be serious.

It was the coordinators fault Oher let everyone through the line?

It was the coordinators fault CB's got dished by Roddy White throughout the whole game?

It was coordinators fault the defense let ATL drive down the field 91 yards then 80 yards in 50 seconds?

Have you ever once considered that maybe our players just got outplayed?
[/quote]

Dude, don't even start. Rice is averaging about 10 yards per run and we pass, pass, pass or put McGahee in and lose about 2 yards. When we pass the ball 5 straight times after we run, we punt. It's repetitive. That's CAMERON'S fault.

When our DB's play 12 yards off of Roddy White and we bring a three man rush with no zone blitzes and give Ryan about 4 seconds to throw, that's MATTISON'S fault.

Both are calling the plays, and the last five minutes of the game should be like that for the enitre game. It happens every single week, why do you see people on these boards calling for Mattison's and Cameron's heads? Because they don't call good game. Cameron tries to get cute, and Mattison doesn't have the balls to blitz. Come on now

[Alexir]

[quote name='Shawn`' timestamp='1289538992' post='537713']
You can't be serious.

[b]It was the coordinators fault Oher let everyone through the line?

It was the coordinators fault CB's got dished by Roddy White throughout the whole game?

It was coordinators fault the defense let ATL drive down the field 91 yards then 80 yards in 50 seconds?

Have you ever once considered that maybe our players just got outplayed?
[/b][/quote]

A. Yes. Make adjustments. Thats part of being a coach in the NFL. Put Heap next to him or get a running block to chip Abraham. Do something. Don't ignore it.



B. Yes. He is an elite receiver and all of corners are undersized, average players. Put Landry or Ruki on a double team with Wilson all game. Do something. Mattison needs to take his ego out of it.

C. Yes.....they called poor coverages, they dont jam at the line which would actually help the pass rush. Refs were a huge part too, but hey we are Ravens fans we expect that.

D. The talent isn't great but a team with Reed, Lewis, Suggs and Ngata should play a lot better than that. Mattison is no Rex Ryan. Is Nolan coaching right now?

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1289539155' post='537733']
Coaches are not the issue.....it was the players this evening. Why does everyone love to blame the coaches/coordinators?
[/quote]

I have no idea. I don't like Mattison blitzing three or some of Cam's calls but guys have to execute regardless and more often than not, they didn't tonight.

[Shawn`]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' timestamp='1289539323' post='537757']
Cameron tries to get cute, and Mattison doesn't have the balls to blitz. Come on now
[/quote]

You obviously have it down to a science.

[Romo Ravens]

[quote name='Shawn`' timestamp='1289539266' post='537748']
Lack of actual football knowledge. In their minds all the players are great except the ones that make the big mistakes.

To them coordinators just sit there and call plays, ANYONE can do that. They do it in Madden all the time by themselves.
[/quote]

Don't insult people like that. I don't see you out there on the field or on the sideline obsvering and calling the shots. Did I ever say it was one player's fault? No, I said that the coordinators should call the best plays at the best times, which they haven't been doing a lot this season. Think before you post.

[PSG_Mud]

Why did we not blitz more is all I am thinking. Answer me that. Everytime we did it worked wonders.

To people who think play callers don't effect the outcome of the game. Remember our Organized Chaos.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1289539385' post='537762']
A. Yes. Make adjustments. Thats part of being a coach in the NFL. Put Heap next to him or get a running block to chip Abraham. Do something. Don't ignore it.

B. Yes. He is an elite receiver and all of corners are undersized, average players. Put Landry or Ruki on a double team with Wilson all game. Do something. Mattison needs to take his ego out of it.

C. Yes.....they called poor coverages, they dont jam at the line which would actually help the pass rush. Refs were a huge part too, but hey we are Ravens fans we expect that.

D. The talent isn't great but a team with Reed, Lewis, Suggs and Ngata should play a lot better than that. Mattison is no Rex Ryan. Is Nolan coaching right now?
[/quote]

A. They did make adjustments but when you're trying to make a comeback, it's tough to commit extra players to protection.

B. You double White, someone else beats you.

C. Poor coverages? There's no play designed to fail. The players didn't make plays.

D. Ray isn't good in coverage anymore, Ed can't be everywhere and as we saw today, he can get beat. Suggs played lights out and Ngata made some plays. Those guys aside, who exactly elite or very good on the Ravens' defense?

[JIVE1000]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' timestamp='1289538481' post='537643']
Fix these damn coordinators. Boot both of them after the season.
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If that was coordination you could have fooled me. The defense has now fallen off the deep end of the pool and drowned. I hate to say it but these guys are not consistent and now are no force to be reckoned with. In fact they've been run backwards up the field so many times this season that it's fairly obvious something is majorly wrong. It seems that while the team has been building a good offense they forgot to take care of the defense. It's aging and inexperience all at the same time. What gives? Too many blown coverages. Too many missed opportunities. The low number of interceptions speaks volumes. With 1:05 left it should have been possible to stop Ryan and company or at least hinder them somehow. Nothing came close to that. In fact the Falcons looked like there was not opponent on the field. How can that be??? I tend to agree that Biscotti has to bite the bullet yet once again and protect his investment by letting some coordinator go. There just has to be a better lot than these guys. Cam was fired by Miami for non-performance prior to the Ravens hiring him. Zorn was let go by the Redskins. Gosh knows where Mattison came from. It seems we need some pep in the staff and these guys are real losers. In spite of all the talent on the team, these so called coordinators make the talent look bad week after week. I think the losses so far have been very avoidable. In New England the same thing happened basically. The defense couldn't contain them after the offense got ahead. The game in Cinci speaks for itself. I don't think anyone came to play that day. Well, there's always next year. Newsome needs to pick some different Offensive linesmen as well as defensive linesmen. The owner needs to fire some coordinators and that is a shame at this time of the season. Maybe next year tends to be a recurring theme in Baltimore. It might be a good idea to spend some of the player's salaries on some really good coordinators. Are you listening Steve B.

[Shawn`]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' timestamp='1289539494' post='537774']
Don't insult people like that.[b] I don't see you out there on the field or on the sideline obsvering and calling the shots[/b]. Did I ever say it was one player's fault? No, I said that the coordinators should call the best plays at the best times, which they haven't been doing a lot this season. Think before you post.
[/quote]

This is the reason why I don't call for a coordinators heads just for fun like a lot of people here.

Because I'm not on the field, I don't know what it's like to be in a game situation and I'm not the one demeaning their jobs which they work very hard at by saying something like "Cam is getting cute" or "Mattison doesn't have the balls to blitz."

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='PSG_Mud' timestamp='1289539531' post='537777']
Why did we not blitz more is all I am thinking. Answer me that. Everytime we did it worked wonders.

To people who think play callers don't effect the outcome of the game. Remember our Organized Chaos.
[/quote]

You blitz more when you have CBs that can actually cover in case the blitz gets picked up or you're facing a good QB.

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' timestamp='1289539323' post='537757']
Dude, don't even start. Rice is averaging about 10 yards per run and we pass, pass, pass or put McGahee in and lose about 2 yards. When we pass the ball 5 straight times after we run, we punt. It's repetitive. That's CAMERON'S fault.

When our DB's play 12 yards off of Roddy White and we bring a three man rush with no zone blitzes and give Ryan about 4 seconds to throw, that's MATTISON'S fault.

Both are calling the plays, and the last five minutes of the game should be like that for the enitre game. It happens every single week, why do you see people on these boards calling for Mattison's and Cameron's heads? Because they don't call good game. Cameron tries to get cute, and [b]Mattison doesn't have the balls to blitz. Come on now[/b]
[/quote]

Actually, it was those blitzes at the end that probably cost us the game... they were ill-advised and poorly timed, to put it lightly.

[PSG_Mud]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1289539729' post='537792']
You blitz more when you have CBs that can actually cover in case the blitz gets picked up or you're facing a good QB.
[/quote]

Matt was to comfortable in the pocket all game.

[Romo Ravens]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' timestamp='1289539821' post='537801']
Actually, it was those blitzes at the end that probably cost us the game... they were ill-advised and poorly timed, to put it lightly.
[/quote]

Didn't see a lot of blitzes throughout the entire course of the game is mainly why I'm mad, which ultimately lead to our demise with Ryan having a lot of time to throw.

[XxSizzleXx]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1289539312' post='537756']
Disregarding the last TD to White, there should have been 2 guys on White all game so that the CB underneath could be more physical with White at the LOS and force Ryan to look somewhere else. Why let Ryan target White, what was it 15 times tonight? Thats ridiculous and he flat dropped 2 passes. You have to take away Ryans security blanket. Its obvious Ryan has to goto him to win through the air.
[/quote]

I said it before the game that they should have doubled White with Reed the entire game, looks like it came back to bite them in the ***.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='PSG_Mud' timestamp='1289539877' post='537808']
Matt was to comfortable in the pocket all game.
[/quote]

True, but there were also times when the blitz came but was picked up.

[Alexir]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1289539605' post='537782']
A. They did make adjustments but when you're trying to make a comeback, it's tough to commit extra players to protection.

B. You double White, someone else beats you.

C. Poor coverages? There's no play designed to fail. The players didn't make plays.

D. Ray isn't good in coverage anymore, Ed can't be everywhere and as we saw today, he can get beat. Suggs played lights out and Ngata made some plays. Those guys aside, who exactly elite or very good on the Ravens' defense?
[/quote]

I disagree. You need to adjust gameplan accordingly no matter the score.

Ok, let the other person beat you. Get Ryan uncomfortable so he becomes linus without his secuirty blanket. Who is his next guy? Gonzalez? Rather have that match up.

If you are playing that far off the LoS, short slants will beat you all day. Crossing routes will beat you all day. Screen passes will beat you all day.

I'll answer your question with another: Who on the Falcons' Defense is elite? John Abraham then who? Maybe Dunta Robinson? Maybe