D Fence

[Ryan561]

what happened?!

[MagicianCamille]

First Jenkins gets credited for catching a ball with his finger tips, juggling it, and stepping out of bounds which give them a huge first down. Then, White pushes a defensive back to the ground and is wide open for a touchdown, no call.

That's pretty much what happened.

[ravensfan160]

Mattison is completely uncreative. Matt Ryan was picking us apart and he did nothing to change it up. The Falcons were running stunts and various other things with their d-line to generate pressure and all we did most of the game was rush 3. When we did blitz we telegraphed it as usual.

[Lonecrow52]

Offense couldn't convert third downs, couldn't extend drives. Therefore, the Defense was out on the field alot early. That shows up late in the game resulting in a tired defense. Hard to sustain energy for that long on a really short week.

[PuRock]

[quote name='MagicianCamille' timestamp='1289538220' post='537605']
First White gets credited for catching a ball with his finger tips, juggling it, and stepping out of bounds which give them a huge first down. Then, White pushes a defensive back to the ground and is wide open for a touchdown, no call.

That's pretty much what happened.
[/quote]

That was actually Douglas with the finger tip catch, but yea, I get what your saying.

EDIT: Sory MC, it was actually Jenkins.

[Alexir]

Greg Mattison happened. Not been a fan of his at all.

Was their poor tackling? Yes. That can be blamed on both the talent and the coaching staff.

Were our guys out of place? Yes. Again I will say both but leaning more to the scheme. Sometimes our guys were covering nothing at all. Like the twilight zone, when there were guys underneath wide open.

Did we make adjustments? Nope, and THAT is why Mattison is a bad coordinator. Roddy White is an outstanding receiver and you are going to put him with a one on one match up with an occasional safety on the top covering him? I will say I was impressed with the run defense and for the most part the pass rush was pretty good. Ryan is just a good QB.

[Krazie]

I think he caught it, im not going to even disagree with the refs call. Flacco needs to just calm down and have better awareness of what the heck is going on. And the whole secondary needs to be scrapped.

[MagicianCamille]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1289538515' post='537649']

Did we make adjustments? Nope, and THAT is why Mattison is a bad coordinator. Roddy White is an outstanding receiver and you are going to put him with a one on one match up with an occasional safety on the top covering him? I will say I was impressed with the run defense and for the most part the pass rush was pretty good. Ryan is just a good QB.
[/quote]

I don't know about that, we did stop them for most of the fourth quarter. Without some of those blatantly bad calls I wonder how things would have gone for the defense.

[Ravensdiciple96]

WHAT DEFENSE?!?!?! Yeah I guess I can say now that Ryan is a better all around QB than Joe. I still love Joe and have faith, but good lord they deserved to lose this game!

[EnVy_CaLiBeR]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1289538515' post='537649']
Greg Mattison happened. Not been a fan of his at all.

Was their poor tackling? Yes. That can be blamed on both the talent and the coaching staff.

Were our guys out of place? Yes. Again I will say both but leaning more to the scheme. Sometimes our guys were covering nothing at all. Like the twilight zone, when there were guys underneath wide open.

Did we make adjustments? Nope, and THAT is why Mattison is a bad coordinator. Roddy White is an outstanding receiver and you are going to put him with a one on one match up with an occasional safety on the top covering him? I will say I was impressed with the run defense and for the most part the pass rush was pretty good. Ryan is just a good QB.
[/quote]
Right, I was thinking the whole time how can you not double Roddy White when it's obvious the only pass rush comes from Suggs and Ngata? If there is time, Roddy will get open one on one.

[CaliFalconsfan]

[quote name='MagicianCamille' timestamp='1289538220' post='537605']
First Douglas gets credited for catching a ball with his finger tips, juggling it, and stepping out of bounds which give them a huge first down. Then, White pushes a defensive back to the ground and is wide open for a touchdown, no call.

That's pretty much what happened.
[/quote]

It was actually Michael Jenkins who got credited with the fingertip catch

[MagicianCamille]

You guys are killing me...

[flynismo]

[quote name='MagicianCamille' timestamp='1289538220' post='537605']<br />First Jenkins gets credited for catching a ball with his finger tips, juggling it, and stepping out of bounds which give them a huge first down. [/quote]

I was okay with that call. Could have gone either way, but it seems to me he did just enough to make it a legit catch.

[quote]
Then, White pushes a defensive back to the ground and is wide open for a touchdown, no call.<br /><br />That's pretty much what happened.<br />[/quote]


THAT pisses me off to no end. It was blatant, in front of the official...guess that's why it's called home field advantage. I wish our refs would start giving us call like that.

[PSG_Mud]

[quote name='MagicianCamille' timestamp='1289538220' post='537605']
First Jenkins gets credited for catching a ball with his finger tips, juggling it, and stepping out of bounds which give them a huge first down. Then, White pushes a defensive back to the ground and is wide open for a touchdown, no call.

That's pretty much what happened.
[/quote]

I disagree just because it moved around didn't mean he didn't have control of it, as it never left any hand. Was an amazing display of talent with that catch.

[Tighthead420]

Was the Ravens defense even on the field?

[Bullrush]

Mattison is counter productive. It's like he's dicing in between games so he can dial up some plays without even thinking about what could work in what situation. Not only that our defense is totally incompetent and not able to translate any of the called plays on the field. So many busted coverages, this defense looks like they never played football before. They can't cover, they can't tackle, they're clueless, have no instincts whatsoever.

Mattison needs to leave ASAP. Put somebody in charge that actually knows what he's doing. And get rid of Landry already, this guy has been babied by Harbaugh & Mattison ever since he suffered that injury a couple years back. It's like he's been guaranteed a starting job for the rest of his life because of that.

Let's just hope Zibby returns next week. But it's not gonna matter since Landry is gonna be the starter no matter what. Matt Millen would be an upgrade over the guys we have right now evaluating our players.

[jdynamite]

Well the defense didn't play bad overall, the Atlanta gameplan was based off a New England attack style based around short completions in space to collect first downs. They could not run the ball with Turner so they turned a short pass attack into an extension of the run-game ( similar to P.Manning and T.Brady)

The Defense was on field too long in the first half, but still managed to keep the game respectable...

It's simple because we began the game with 2 ray rice first down runs, then start passing, punt it away, for some unknown reason Rice only had 5 carries by half time and we began forcing Flacco to just throw which resulted in a poor decision and putting the defense back on field for another 5 min drive... Atlanta was sitting on the ball just killing clock..

Our defense could have benefited from more run calls early in the game from our offense after ray rice had early success, (I cannot explain how we have 3 very good Route Running WRs on the team but our plays almost never have good short routes or comebacks, drags, most plays are 15 yd routes it takes too long to develop at times...)

[grape drank]

What else Happened? a 2 TE formation with 2 backs in the back field, and we ran a 3 man front. might as well have just given them the first down. Haloti can only beat so many O linemen on one play, he cant take out the entire falcons offensive line at the line.

[Mount-Cody]

Anyone else notice the plays cody made. He's doing a great job stuffing the run.

[rlh445]

[quote name='PSG_Mud' timestamp='1289548636' post='538165']
I disagree just because it moved around didn't mean he didn't have control of it, as it never left any hand. Was an amazing display of talent with that catch.
[/quote]

The ball moving around is a sign that control isn't there..in fact it's what referees first look at during replays to determine control.

[hawkprey]

The Ravens defense played fine against a tough offense. Does anyone remember, uh... [size="5"]Run defense?[/size]

We obliterated their running game and held Matt Ryan to about 6 yards per attempt. The problem was 3rd down. It was just too easy for them to complete passes. We have to do something about 3rd down. If we can force some incompletions on 3rd and 5+, the D would look twice as good.

Don't forget the Falcons got 6 points off turnovers and 11 points off penalties/glaring non-calls.

[SaVaGe]

Just saying these are the same players Rex Ryan had and when he was here they didn't have trouble tackling. Clearly this is a coaching issue.

[berad]

[quote name='SaVaGe' timestamp='1289588880' post='538935']
Just saying these are the same players Rex Ryan had and when he was here they didn't have trouble tackling. Clearly this is a coaching issue.
[/quote]



When Rex Ryan was here, our starting defense looked MUCH different.

[WinnipegRaven]

[quote name='berad' timestamp='1289589078' post='538943']


When Rex Ryan was here, our starting defense looked MUCH different.
[/quote]

as much as Rex's mouth pains me, I have to say Im really wishing he was our HC... His ego and mouth aside (2 things he backs up quite often), you can really see his impact not just on the defensive side of the ball, but in all the players. They really like playing and performing for their coach.
If there is something wrong with the Jets, they attack the problem like its cancer. I read that the whole team (save the actual offender) are doing pushups when someone commits a foul in practice. Rex's players seem like they really would be willing to follow him off a cliff were he to jump, something I can't say for our players.

Mattison being a long time family friend of the Harbaugh's cant help our situation in getting something done about this defense.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='WinnipegRaven' timestamp='1289590462' post='538983']
as much as Rex's mouth pains me, I have to say Im really wishing he was our HC... [b]His ego and mouth aside (2 things he backs up quite often), you can really see his impact not just on the defensive side of the ball, but in all the players. They really like playing and performing for their coach.
If there is something wrong with the Jets, they attack the problem like its cancer. I read that the whole team (save the actual offender) are doing pushups when someone commits a foul in practice. Rex's players seem like they really would be willing to follow him off a cliff were he to jump, something I can't say for our players.

Mattison being a long time family friend of the Harbaugh's cant help our situation in getting something done about this defense.[/b]
[/quote]

That's great and all but when you have Revis, Cromartie, Ellis, Pouha, Pace, Harris, Scott and Taylor, you're going to have great D.

[funky141]

[quote name='rlh445' timestamp='1289581377' post='538749']
The ball moving around is a sign that control isn't there..in fact it's what referees first look at during replays to determine control.
[/quote]

It was a catch, thus why the official ruled it a catch...

[berad]

[quote name='WinnipegRaven' timestamp='1289590462' post='538983']
as much as Rex's mouth pains me, I have to say Im really wishing he was our HC... His ego and mouth aside (2 things he backs up quite often), you can really see his impact not just on the defensive side of the ball, but in all the players. They really like playing and performing for their coach.
If there is something wrong with the Jets, they attack the problem like its cancer. I read that the whole team (save the actual offender) are doing pushups when someone commits a foul in practice. Rex's players seem like they really would be willing to follow him off a cliff were he to jump, something I can't say for our players.

Mattison being a long time family friend of the Harbaugh's cant help our situation in getting something done about this defense.
[/quote]

True. Never doubting Rex's merit as a players coach. Just saying, our personnel was a lot different two years ago.

[XxSizzleXx]

With the way JJ and Gregg are playing do you guys think this is their last year in Baltimore if they continue to play like this until the end of the year?

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='XxSizzleXx' timestamp='1289596556' post='539192']
With the way JJ and Gregg are playing do you guys think this is their last year in Baltimore if they continue to play like this until the end of the year?
[/quote]

Both players are signed through 2011 but with Gregg's replacement already on the roster and flashing his ability last night, I could see him being released.

J.J. may return but there's no way he can be an every down player next season.

[reediddy]

[quote name='Mount-Cody' timestamp='1289581162' post='538743']
Anyone else notice the plays cody made. He's doing a great job stuffing the run.
[/quote]

Cody was playing great. He needs to just become a staple of our defensive line.

In terms of our secondary...yeah. It's the pass rush, and nothing else. To be honest, our coverage is good initially. But when Ryan gets time he can throw his receivers open by throwing to precise spots. Pass rush!