Randy Moss A Titan

[JoeCool#5]

I rather have Michael S. than Randy Moss. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb5hPlEkwgc[/media]

[Alexir]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1288642827' post='525050']
[b]I'm sure every NFL message board has been hijacked by "Randy Moss and our team" threads. [/b]

Two teams didn't want him because he was a distraction in the locker room. He wants a big contract, will we give that to him? If we don't, it'll be a headache for our organization.
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The vikings board isn't saying that! Up top!

[RoflDogs]

[quote name='RavensAllTheWay' timestamp='1288641621' post='525007']
Randy is overrated. I'd take WRs like Boldin, TO and even [b]Percy Harvin[/b] over him any day of the week. There's talk of him still being a really good WR, just not as good as he once was. But even that's a stretch. All we need to do is get TJ more involved in our own passing game. I'm by no means willing to release/trade him because he's still a great fit in this offense. So some people really need to cut the hate.

This team doesn't need Randy Moss.
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I wasn't aware Percy Harvin was available

[MsMarvel73]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1288642917' post='525054']
The vikings board isn't saying that! Up top!
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Theirs and the Patriots...probably the only two.

Up top!

[flynismo]

[quote name='RavensAllTheWay' timestamp='1288642765' post='525047']<br />That was then, this is now.  If the Patriots cut him, OK that really doesn't mean much because they part ways with good players all the time and it always ends up helping them in the long run.  It's just how their management works.<br /><br />But them AND the Vikings?  When the Vikes are in desparate need of a big play talent who is supposed to be able to give their offense a spark?  That's saying a lot.<br />[/quote]

What do you mean, "that was then, this is now". Those were the two seasons directly preceding this season, which means if anyone says that Moss is over the hill, they are basing it on less than half a season (this season). That's not very wise. Especially so when you consider the circumstances surrounding Moss since Week 1..

[PuRock]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1288642917' post='525054']
The vikings board isn't saying that! Up top!
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I'm sure even Vikes fans are like, bring him back!

[RavensAllTheWay]

Also, isn't TJ a better fit for this offense than Moss? Randy has said numerous times himself that he should be a deep threat and big play threat. But this offense has hit a lot more big plays and deep pass plays this season than in previous seasons, so he can't really help with that.

TJ makes his money by going over the middle and working the slot, which was one of Joe's weak points his first two years. And he doesn't have trouble catching, he's only dropped like one or two passes all season, both being in one game.

[berad]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1288642588' post='525044']
[img]http://boards.baltimoreravens.com/public/style_emoticons/default/34853_doh.GIF[/img] Wow, you dont have to explain anything, I read the comments when they came out and read them when he apologized for them. Not going to turn this thread into a Housh thread but any player on our team that hopes the other team scores so they can pad their stats isn't someone I want on our team. Especially if they are going to say that about a game involving our biggest rival.
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Okay, so you read them, but still don't understand. I'm not an avid fan of Houshmandzadeh but I'm willing to defend his comments against lack of comprehension. He was happy that the Ravens offense got another chance to show it's worth, not to add two catches to his resume. By construing his comments into something that is untrue, you're making a mountain out of a molehill.

Again, it's akin to saying, [i]"I like being the underdog"[/i]

[Ravensdiciple96]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1288642525' post='525043']
All well and good, but if you're opposed to bringing in Moss, none of that is a reason to not bring him in. His attitude is the only plausible reason to not want him here.
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Ok now are you serious?? Why in the world would the Ravens even think of bringing ANOTHER WR to this team, when we have Mase, Q, TJ, Stall, Reed. We haven't even had Stall yet this season and Reed hasn't even been a factor and we still can't even keep TJ happy. That right there is a good enough reason for the Ravens to not even have this thought enter their minds! There is NO reason to bring Moss here, justify whatever you want all you want, but bringing Moss here would be the most stupid thing the Ravens have done, with what they got on their hands now and at that position!

[AwakenTheDemon]

[quote name='RoflDogs' timestamp='1288642980' post='525055']
I wasn't aware Percy Harvin was available
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I like how you mention Harvin, but not TO. So apparently you're under the impression that Owens is available? He was only saying those are two (three if you count Boldin) receivers he'd rather have over Moss. Although I don't really agree with Owens or Harvin. Owens has the same issues to me as Moss and Harvin's frequent health issues are concerning to me.

[RoflDogs]

[quote name='RavensAllTheWay' timestamp='1288643032' post='525059']
Also, isn't TJ a better fit for this offense than Moss? Randy has said numerous times himself that he should be a deep threat and big play threat. [b] But this offense has hit a lot more big plays and deep pass plays this season than in previous seasons[/b], so he can't really help with that.

TJ makes his money by going over the middle and working the slot, which was one of Joe's weak points his first two years. And he doesn't have trouble catching, he's only dropped like one or two passes all season, both being in one game.
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Other than the flee flicker in the last game and Ed Dickson's catch. I haven't seen Flacco hit a deep shot (30+ yards down the field)

[I AM LEGEND]

I'll say it again...

If he falls to us...we cut TJ...and bring him in...

Even if he is on waivers sucky teams wont touch him cause hes not gonna play...randy will eventually land on a team that has a chance to win it...so weve just cut the field in half..

The only issue is if he minds coming out as much as they take TJ out..

[Perfekt]

and this is how you know its been a long bye week. sorry dont want him we have enough players.

[RoflDogs]

[quote name='AwakenTheDemon' timestamp='1288643141' post='525062']
I like how you mention Harvin, but not TO. So apparently you're under the impression that Owens is available? He was only saying those are two (three if you count Boldin) receivers he'd rather have over Moss. Although I don't really agree with Owens or Harvin. Owens has the same issues to me as Moss and Harvin's frequent health issues are concerning to me.
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I'm not under the impression that TO's available....but I don't want him on my team because he doesn't provide the deep threat that we need.

[flynismo]

[quote name='Ravensdiciple96' timestamp='1288643123' post='525061']<br />Ok now are you serious?? Why in the world would the Ravens even think of bringing ANOTHER WR to this team, when we have Mase, Q, TJ, Stall, Reed. We haven't even had Stall yet this season and Reed hasn't even been a factor and we still can't even keep TJ happy. That right there is a good enough reason for the Ravens to not even have this thought enter their minds! There is NO reason to bring Moss here, justify whatever you want all you want, but bringing Moss here would be the most stupid thing the Rvaens have done, with whatthey got on their hands now and at that position!<br />[/quote]

The question is, why WOULDN'T you want to bring in one the league's Top 3 WR to ever play the game? Stroking TJ's ego isn't a reason, I'm sorry. Having a glutton of talent isn't a reason either.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='RoflDogs' timestamp='1288643153' post='525063']
Other than the flee flicker in the last game and Ed Dickson's catch. [b]I haven't seen Flacco hit a deep shot (30+ yards down the field)[/b]
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Both Q and Heap had 30+-yard catches against the Jets, Q had another against the Browns and Mason had one against the Bills last week.

[AwakenTheDemon]

[quote name='I AM LEGEND' timestamp='1288643179' post='525064']
I'll say it again...

If he falls to us...we cut TJ...and bring him in...

Even if he is on waivers sucky teams wont touch him cause hes not gonna play...randy will eventually land on a team that has a chance to win it...so weve just cut the field in half..

[b]The only issue is if he minds coming out as much as they take TJ out..[/b]
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Really? Are you seriously bring that question up? One: If we bring him in, I can't see the coaching staff making him sit for many downs. Two: Saying we did make him sit, [u]of course[/u] he'd mind. This is freaking Randy Moss we're talking about here.

[berad]

[quote name='RoflDogs' timestamp='1288643153' post='525063']
Other than the flee flicker in the last game and Ed Dickson's catch. I haven't seen Flacco hit a deep shot (30+ yards down the field)
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There have been numerous plays like that in, literally, every game.

[Alexir]

[quote name='berad' timestamp='1288643035' post='525060']
Okay, so you read them, but still don't understand. I'm not an avid fan of Houshmandzadeh but I'm willing to defend his comments against lack of comprehension. He was happy that the Ravens offense got another chance to show it's worth, not to add two catches to his resume. By construing his comments into something that is untrue, you're making a mountain out of a molehill.

Again, it's akin to saying, [i]"I like being the underdog"[/i]
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If thats what you want to believe than thats what you want to believe, But he said those things in the heat of the moment and had to go back to "clarify" what he meant but we all know he just wanted the ball and to be the hero.

If he wanted to show how awesome the offense was, they could of done it in the first 58 minutes. But I mean what do you expect from a guy that was a number 2 receiver becoming a number 1 receiver in Seattle then getting demoted to a number 3. It's understandable he wants to have the ball but you just don't say that.

Would you of been fine if one of our defenders said "I was glad Flacco threw that pick so we could show Pittsburgh we were the better defense "?

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='I AM LEGEND' timestamp='1288643179' post='525064']
I'll say it again...

If he falls to us...we cut TJ...and bring him in...

Even if he is on waivers sucky teams wont touch him cause hes not gonna play...randy will eventually land on a team that has a chance to win it...so weve just cut the field in half..

[b]The only issue is if he minds coming out as much as they take TJ out..[/b]
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Honestly, don't you think he'd have a problem with that? As he once said, "You gotta keep your playmakers on the field, at all times...remember that!!"

[flynismo]

[quote name='I AM LEGEND' timestamp='1288643179' post='525064']<br />I'll say it again...<br /><br />If he falls to us...we cut TJ...and bring him in...<br /><br />Even if he is on waivers sucky teams wont touch him cause hes not gonna play...randy will eventually land on a team that has a chance to win it...so weve just cut the field in half..<br /><br />The only issue is if he minds coming out as much as they take TJ out..<br />[/quote]

I'd cut Stallworth, not TJ, but otherwise I agree.

So many people have been so excited about Stallworth coming back because he is a deep threat. Well, the greatest deep threat to ever play the game is now on the market. Problem solved.

[AwakenTheDemon]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1288643428' post='525072']
If thats what you want to believe than thats what you want to believe, [b]But he said those things in the heat of the moment and had to go back to "clarify" what he meant but we all know he just wanted the ball and to be the hero.[/b]

If he wanted to show how awesome the offense was, they could of done it in the first 58 minutes. But I mean what do you expect from a guy that was a number 2 receiver becoming a number 1 receiver in Seattle then getting demoted to a number 3. It's understandable he wants to have the ball but you just don't say that.

Would you of been fine if one of our defenders said "I was glad Flacco threw that pick so we could show Pittsburgh we were the better defense "?
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So you're saying you are always perfectly clear with your intentions and statements in the heat of the moment?

[Ravensdiciple96]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1288643316' post='525067']
The question is, why WOULDN'T you want to bring in one the league's Top 3 WR to ever play the game? Stroking TJ's ego isn't a reason, I'm sorry. Having a glutton of talent isn't a reason either.
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What part of all of the WRs we got now would like the ball more don't you understand? Yet you want to bring in another hungry WR that will want the ball more, Joe can only get it to who we got as much as Cam allows him to. Joe is already hitting what at least 5/6 different targets a game and yet we know deep down they still AINT HAPPY!! Come on now, sorry but the sky is still blue as well!

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1288643522' post='525074']
I'd cut Stallworth, not TJ, but otherwise I agree.

So many people have been so excited about Stallworth coming back because he is a deep threat. Well, the greatest deep threat to ever play the game is now on the market. Problem solved.
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Unlike Moss, Stallworth won't mind being a situational deep threat and can help the team as a punt returner.

[I AM LEGEND]

[quote name='AwakenTheDemon' timestamp='1288643336' post='525069']
Really? Are you seriously bring that question up? One: If we bring him in, I can't see the coaching staff making him sit for many downs. Two: Saying we did make him sit, [u]of course[/u] he'd mind. This is freaking Randy Moss we're talking about here.
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Yea but many felt TJ was and still is a better 2 then mason yet the team has stuck by mason...and maybe rightfully so since he's still kinda Flaccos safety blanket...so do you think they would just completely turn on mason once moss is here? Who knows..but not taking moss out and keeping mason in with boldin and heap...thats basically 4 receiver set every play...that's not ravens football..

[Alexir]

[quote name='AwakenTheDemon' timestamp='1288643583' post='525075']
So you're saying you are always perfectly clear with your intentions and statements in the heat of the moment?
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Oh no not at all. But when I have a room full of reporters and cameras in my face, I am going to be a little bit more careful with what comes out of my mouth.

[I AM LEGEND]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1288643661' post='525078']
Unlike Moss, Stallworth won't mind being a situational deep threat and can help the team as a punt returner.
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Lol if TJ ain't happy now....he Damn sure ain't gonna be happy if Randy comes here..you would have to cut him...

[AwakenTheDemon]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1288643522' post='525074']
I'd cut Stallworth, not TJ, but otherwise I agree.

So many people have been so excited about Stallworth coming back because he is a deep threat. Well, the greatest deep threat to ever play the game is now on the market. Problem solved.
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Jerry Rice would like to say hello.

[I AM LEGEND]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1288643522' post='525074']
I'd cut Stallworth, not TJ, but otherwise I agree.

So many people have been so excited about Stallworth coming back because he is a deep threat. Well, the greatest deep threat to ever play the game is now on the market. Problem solved.
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Agree with last part

[1/28/01]

[quote name='edreedfromtheu' timestamp='1288640353' post='524966']
The thread is about Randy Moss and would he help the Ravens. I was explaining why Randy Moss, or any other receiver, really won't change much for Baltimore. You can only play so many receivers. The Ravens have 3 receivers who are pretty good. And the offense still isn't doing what they were expected to do. The common link between the receivers on a team? THE QB. Or I could have brought up the playcalling, but I'm sure you would have cried about someone bringing that up too. So, maybe you should let it go.
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I guess I'm really just sick of the Flacco bashing posts accompanied by the praising of Troy Smith....to each their own though, I guess. Carry the nonsense on my friend