Thanks Again Refs

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1287964025' post='519499']
That call was iffy. But I was talking about the picked off pass. The guy had full control. And by all means, the ref got the play right by the book. But he technically didn't have control of the ball in the field of play because he was sitting on Q.

I'll always take a win but I am seriously concerned with our team. Great darn time to have a bye week.
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That wasn't a technicality, it happened.

[Alexir]

[quote name='berad' timestamp='1287964241' post='519504']
He only got one foot down, no other part of his body hit. Boldin became a defender on that play and pushed him out-of-bounds. You're right, it's a textbook rule and a great call - so how did a referee "give us the game" by calling it correctly?
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Guess you're right. Just a terrible rule I guess.

[berad]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1287964496' post='519520']
Guess you're right. Just a terrible rule I guess.
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The rule was actually made to help the defense, I like it. Talk to Calvin Johnson about terrible rules haha...

[Jamal]

We aren't like any of those team because we haven't won multiple championships.

[Alexir]

[quote name='berad' timestamp='1287964582' post='519522']
The rule was actually made to help the defense, I like it. Talk to Calvin Johnson about terrible rules haha...
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Yeah seriously. I Feel bad for the Lions....

Ugh, I just don't know where we go from here. We are having trouble finding consistency on all 3 phases. The bye is going to be much needed.

But seriously, fair catch or not, why the hell would they put Ed Reed on a punt return?! You know he's going to be tempted to break one.

[berad]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1287964730' post='519524']
Yeah seriously. I Feel bad for the Lions....

Ugh, I just don't know where we go from here. We are having trouble finding consistency on all 3 phases. The bye is going to be much needed.

[b]But seriously, fair catch or not, why the hell would they put Ed Reed on a punt return?! You know he's going to be tempted to break one.[/b]
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Yeah, they have a lot to work out over the bye but no team is perfect. And, heck, look how well the Ravens played after their bye week last year, maybe we will see a similar result in 2010.

And I was wondering that, too. I, personally, am thinking that Ed was just itching to get back there and try to make a play. I have nothing to back that up, though but it wouldn't surprise me

[Alexir]

[quote name='berad' timestamp='1287964863' post='519529']
Yeah, they have a lot to work out over the bye but no team is perfect. And, heck, look how well the Ravens played after their bye week last year, maybe we will see a similar result in 2010.

And I was wondering that, too. I, personally, am thinking that Ed was just itching to get back there and try to make a play. I have nothing to back that up, though but it wouldn't surprise me
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He probably pulled a Peyton Manning and waved off the coaches and Punt returners.

[JoeCool#5]

For a second here, I thought a steeler troll came to the boards to thanks the Refs for the call at Maimi gift wrapped them the game. Come to find out its just some non-sense.

[hawkprey]

It's kinda hard to understand the ref in the clip. Here's what he says:

"After review, it had been determined, that prior to the ball crossing the goal line, the runner did lose possession of the ball. However, by rule, two aspects of this play must be reviewed. That not only we have to view the fumble being a fumble, but that the team who wins the call is the Pittsburgh Steelers. After review, it appears that the Steelers were the team that fumbled. Therefore, it will be Pittsburgh ball on the half yard line."

[Dukefool]

[quote name='hawkprey' timestamp='1287965732' post='519568']
It's kinda hard to understand the ref in the clip. Here's what he says:

"After review, it had been determined, that prior to the ball crossing the goal line, the runner did lose possession of the ball. However, by rule, two aspects of this play must be reviewed. That not only we have to view the fumble being a fumble, but that the team who wins the call is the Pittsburgh Steelers. After review, it appears that the Steelers were the team that fumbled. Therefore, it will be Pittsburgh ball on the half yard line."
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Apparently, the ref is a Pittsburgh native. How... fortunate.

After years of being on the bad side of the refs, I think its good that the Ravens are now being "favored" by the refs when actually they have gotten the poor discipline focused over the offseason.

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='Dukefool' timestamp='1287966308' post='519594']
Apparently, the ref is a Pittsburgh native. How... fortunate.

After years of being on the bad side of the refs, I think its good that the Ravens are now being "favored" by the refs when actually they have gotten the poor discipline focused over the offseason.
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Yeah, it's amazing how that crew ended up doing their game and they got yet another favorable call. Oh, well...

[UMDan]

[quote name='VA_Fan' timestamp='1287955206' post='519187']
You want to see the Ref's gift wrapping a win? Look no further then today's Steelers game. I think the right call was made in our game today.
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agreed...

i'm not saying we deserved to win our game, because the bills played their hearts out, but the bills made mistakes too and the refs didn't give this to us. they made it easier though.

[RLewis52]

So far this season we have had less penalities

[rlh445]

[quote name='hammer' timestamp='1287953653' post='519126']
In years past it has been a widely discussed belief that the refs had it in for our boys in purple. Now it appears that our opponents are the most penalized collective team in the NFL. We now get all the calls.

Did the refs deliver this game to us with a bowtie wrapped around it. A gift from the refs, Ya think? Are we now like New England, the Yankees, or the Lakers?

Puleeease say it aint so!
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I love joke threads!

[raidersuck]

The ravens did not deserve this win: Flacco's INT which was called back was not the correct call.

Rule 8, Section 1, Article 3, Item 6: Carried out of Bounds. And I quote:
"If a player, who is in possession of the ball, is held up and carried out of bounds by an opponent before both feet or any part of his body other than his hands touches the ground inbounds, it is a completed or intercepted pass."

If you want an easier way to understand this then read the following -- an answer from Mike Pereira



When the NFL changed its rule on forceouts last year or the year before (can't remember exactly when), I thought it was a good move. I say, give the defensive player credit if he can get to the receiver in time to knock him out of bounds before he gets his feet down. At the very least, it takes away that judgment rule that always looked wrong on the replays...and it wasn't reviewable!
But that got me to thinking...could a defensive player really use that new rule to his advantage? I know what I'm going to describe isn't very likely, but I bet it's going to happen at some point. What would be the call in this scenario: A receiver leaps to make a catch in the end zone, say two yards away from the end line. In attempting to make a hit, a defensive player who has not left the ground ends up kind of catching the receiver before he hits the ground. I mean, the receiver falls onto the defender in a way that he is held up in the air, without his feet or any part of his body having touched the ground. Could the defender then purposely hold the receiver off the ground and carry him over the end line before he touches down, thus keeping it from being a catch? Is that a legal form of a 'forceout?'
Thanks for helping me with this, Answer Man. I know we probably won't see a play like that, but if we do, I want to be the one who can turn to my buddies without pausing and say, 'No, this is the rule...'
Frustrated and certain I had poked into every corner of that book, I decided to appeal to the experts for help. I copied Ryan's question to Mike Pereira, the NFL's Vice President of Officiating. If you have the NFL Network (which, I have to say, is also quite awesome), you've probably seen Pereira on the NFL Total Access show, doing his Official Review segment. What does Pereira do in those segments? Why, he explains rule interpretations!
So, yeah, good source, but surely a very busy man. I figured I'd send him the question and cross my fingers that he'd have time to answer at some point in the near future. Maybe Ryan's question would have to go in the next column.
About 60 seconds later, there was a reply from Pereira, with the answer. Now, this means two things. One, Mike Pereira is a very helpful NFL representative. And, two, this question wasn't nearly as mystery as I thought.
This was the key part of Pereira's response, Ryan:
"That would be a catch and carry and a touchdown. It is legal to knock the receiver out of bounds but if you catch him and carry him out it would be deemed a catch. Hope this helps."

http://www.buccaneers.com/bucs-fans/answer-man/answer-man-articles/article-1/The-Answer-Man-Series-6-Vol-2/545262B7-5FD7-4B4B-BFE9-0507FEDEA02E

[berad]

Boldin didn't hold him up or "carry" him out of bounds. He tackled him. Pretty cut and dry if you ask me.