Ravens Have 65% Chance Of Landing Lito Shepard

[rayvenfan_52]

Besides Im not really into Shepard. He is good but Id rather get a corner from the draft. No offense though

[Raven07]

which is undertandable like i said before.....and i believe that its a the better option to go after a little bit younger guys/players in the draft, and not have to worry about things like "will be fit into this system or not?" type deal...simply because of the fact that, with the player being drafted by us and us alone....that gives us the overall option to "mold" the player into the type of player WE (the Ravens) want him to become and thus will best be suited for our system and noone else.

[rayvenfan_52]

and we wont have to worry about him adjusting to the system.. all the rookie has to do is learn it. makes it much more eaiser

[Raven07]

making it much easier yes AND allowing us (the team) to have the overall freedom to do what they feel is best suited for the team and the Team alone.....putting the best players possible, in the best situations possible. in which can only mean good or even great things are to come from a team that designates a new system such as that or this....and with this new coaching staff....i would expect a similiar thing to happen/occur, and a "molding" action to take affect in order to best fit or best suit our team as it will be.

[rayvenfan_52]

Hmmmm.. I just previously read that article about the trade with Lito..... and Im say................NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... A first round draft pick for him? Thats like saying... "Here, take this lolipop and Ill take your cookies." I mean we could probably get someone in the draft that has the potential to be better then him.

[Sub-Zero]

im not understanding the lollipop/cookie connection. I'll take cookies over wowipops any day of the week

but yeah, this draft has a nice slew of corners. that Justin King kid is one helluva football player, he can run, catch, return, defend and leap buildings in a single bound.....jk but he would have Rolle and McAlister to learn from I mean what better pair of corners to learn from than them (like when Jerry Porter had Rice and Brown, its a rarity).

[rayvenfan_52]

yea.. thats what I mean.. the eagles are trying to swap a lolipop for cookies.. 1st rounder for Lito... It doesnt even mention that he'll come with a draft round choice.. hes not even that good either..... atleast thats what I think

[Raven07]

i think that every player is "good" in a matter of speaking and in their own sense and mind....i also think that, with new player that we may or will bring in here to baltimore....offers a new way and a new perspective on how to do certain things and go about accomplishing those goals. in which the players true value is yet to be determined, as nothing has been done as of yet and he's not with a new team, so noone should indeed, be jumping to any conclusions about lito's or anyone's (for that matter) playing ability.

a prime example of what im talking about would just have to be that of Trevor Pryce and him being traded to us from Denver.....everyone thought he was washed up, done, through...whatever you want to call it....then he came here and put up big numbers and had one of the best season's in his career, and most of all....he was happy...and when you have a happy player, playing for you....good things are bound to happen.....both him and Suggs were a complete dominating force on our defensive front, often taking 2-3 and sometimes 4 guys to block just those 2 players...which altered game plans and what the offense needed to do and often ended with the opponent's offense virtually getting nothing in return but a hit, or a sack or a turnover by our defense.

[Devastat1on]

I knew i should have bookmarked the website.. I will try and find it for you guys. But it def read Ravens 65% chance to land LITO for our first pick or possibly second.. he is only 26 very YOUNG still and knows our new HC VERY WELL.. PHILLY is def 99% trading him and were 5 percent behind the #1 team they were looking at so who knows.. i personally think NE will go for it.. as they lost Randall GAY and LITO is a GREAT CB.. and still YOUNG.

I think i found the link you were looking for about this trade. It mentions both the Ravens with a 65% chance in landing Lito and the Pats with a 70% chance in landing him.

My only problem with this is that i guarantee the Ravens would not trade the number 8 pick for Lito. That wont happen.

http://www.armchairgm.com/Article:Where_wi...heppard_land%3F

[Raven07]

like i said before.....the Ravens (im sure) wont be willing to give their number 1 overall pick for Lito...seeing how we need depth and young(er) talent at a few positions.....we have to be set and be ready to take the best possible or best available Player in the Draft when our times comes for our pick to be announced. and like i said before....one area in which we need "depth"...is that of the position of Cornerback.....just seeing how Rolle has missed as much time as he has, and our current back up player(s) arent really built for that type of game play (cornerback par say)......i think the most logical and the most reasonable option to go with here is that of drafting a young, talented athlete whom has the ability to become an immediate positive impact player for our defense without losing a "step" in the process.......which is precisely why i think Leodis is a prime choice for us to take...becuse of his play making ability, because of his athletiv ability, because of his ability to learn quicker than most....and because he has the potential to step into the starting role (if need be) and fill the vacancy, without our defense losing its overall "edge".

[rayvenfan_52]

yea thats true what you said about Pryce. I personally hope he does good next season. But Id still pass up on Lito.

[Raven07]

as would i.........allowing us to search freely and without any possible hang up's or problems...i think that it would also give us a prime position (if we decide to pass on him) to look for more althetic talent in which can impact this team more (positively) than most would if they were to comme here. thus is another reason as to why drafting a pure "Rookie" is so crucial of a thing to have because we we can mold him into the type of player that we want to see and we want to see perform.

[rayvenfan_52]

Theres only one problem with some rookies. Some of them a dumb enough to look for the money early in their career rather then trying to get a ring. They should be trying to get a ring rather then making the money. The money will always come after for them. Hopefully the rookies dont do that when they come to the Ravens.

[Raven07]

as Rookies...they shouldnt be focused on the money part of it....that will surely come with time.....once drafted, every rookie starts thinking about the first mini-camp, training camp, drilling, meeting the team and coaches...all of which are in a whirl wind haze in which seems to blow by for them in an instant. thus implifies the ever looming thought of "work first play later" falls into place......because in order to get your money.....you must perform, and to perform, you must dedicate yourself totally and effectively. thus marking the start of a new era and basically an all new player within yourself. with experience comes the fame and the money..with experience comes the ring (many hope and dream as we all do) and so on and so forth.

but back on topic here....

[neepo13]

Theres only one problem with some rookies. Some of them a dumb enough to look for the money early in their career rather then trying to get a ring. They should be trying to get a ring rather then making the money. The money will always come after for them. Hopefully the rookies dont do that when they come to the Ravens.

I am sorry but I dont think you can blame rookies for trying to make all the money they can. Seeing as though there is a good chance that they will be a bust, I'd say its a good business move to try and be paid up front. For most guys the money never comes. The media likes to play up all the big money that some free agents get but there are only 22 guys that start for 32 teams that have 53 men rosters. The chances of a guy breaking a big pay day later in his career are slim to none. It may seem like alot of guys bring in big money but compared to the league as whole, its really only a small percentage of them.

[Ravens_Pwn12]

i doubt he will even go to a different team.

[smashmouth82]

I don't think he would be worth trading our Pick 1st or 2nd round pick maybey our 3rd round compensatory pick

you can't trade a compensatory pick by rule. but think about it...a lot of people are calling for a CB with the 1st rounder. not only would you still get one regardless, but lito is one of the best and you wouldn't have to wait for a rook to learn a system lito will already have a grasp on.

[Devastat1on]

you can't trade a compensatory pick by rule. but think about it...a lot of people are calling for a CB with the 1st rounder. not only would you still get one regardless, but lito is one of the best and you wouldn't have to wait for a rook to learn a system lito will already have a grasp on.

Instead of giving that 1st pick up for lito, i would rather take a young corner who would take a year or two to learn the system and be younger and just as good than lito if we were to acquire him. Im not worried about defensive players not panning out in Baltimore, and drafting a rookie corner would be the better long term option..

[rayvenfan_52]

really better for the long term. plus some of them dont have any serious injuries that occured in the past.

[Reed_4_President]

I think i found the link you were looking for about this trade. It mentions both the Ravens with a 65% chance in landing Lito and the Pats with a 70% chance in landing him.

My only problem with this is that i guarantee the Ravens would not trade the number 8 pick for Lito. That wont happen.

http://www.armchairgm.com/Article:Where_wi...heppard_land%3F

YEAH. Thats the LINK TO MR. NEEPO WHO WAS basically acting like i made this whole thing up! bbbbooooyahhhh in your face read it and weep.

[Reed_4_President]

as would i.........allowing us to search freely and without any possible hang up's or problems...i think that it would also give us a prime position (if we decide to pass on him) to look for more althetic talent in which can impact this team more (positively) than most would if they were to comme here. thus is another reason as to why drafting a pure "Rookie" is so crucial of a thing to have because we we can mold him into the type of player that we want to see and we want to see perform.

But who is to say that "DRAFT PICK" will end up being a "GEM"?. At least with LITO we are getting a GREAT CB young same age as McGahee for a draft pick!!. I do not agree on our 1st round pick but i would offer our 2nd round pick and maybe 3rd if they wont just take the 2nd. Move Samari over to nickle and LITO to replace him at corner GREAT SETUP!.

And HARBAUGH knows him well i think it would work out very nice!.

[Reed_4_President]

Instead of giving that 1st pick up for lito, i would rather take a young corner who would take a year or two to learn the system and be younger and just as good than lito if we were to acquire him. Im not worried about defensive players not panning out in Baltimore, and drafting a rookie corner would be the better long term option..

What makes you think ROLLE has another 1-2 years left in him for a ROOKIE to learn "OUR" system and at that even be a GEM PICK!?. With LITO he is already a GEM and would LEARN THE SYSTEM FAST!, even faster HARBAUGH has experience with him.

[smashmouth]

Instead of giving that 1st pick up for lito, i would rather take a young corner who would take a year or two to learn the system and be younger and just as good than lito if we were to acquire him. Im not worried about defensive players not panning out in Baltimore, and drafting a rookie corner would be the better long term option..

Right on, we dont really have to worry about our 1st round draft pick not working out, Even our young CB's improved big time as the season went on, altho they played pretty horrable to start with.

[rayvenfan_52]

Big big time last year. They got valuable game time experience because Rolle and McAllister were out. But the worst one I ever saw was when Pittman was faked out badly. He gave that Colts guy cushion to do whatever and he still got faked.. Poor dude. Hopefully he learned from that. Get someone to help Solidify one of the Lines.. wether it be O line or D line.

[Ravens52]

to be honest, I'd like to get Lito but personally wouldn't mind if we didn't get him. Since he wants a new contract I'm not sure we can give him that since we got to give Suggs, Scott, and Ray a new one.

[Devastat1on]

But who is to say that "DRAFT PICK" will end up being a "GEM"?. At least with LITO we are getting a GREAT CB young same age as McGahee for a draft pick!!. I do not agree on our 1st round pick but i would offer our 2nd round pick and maybe 3rd if they wont just take the 2nd. Move Samari over to nickle and LITO to replace him at corner GREAT SETUP!.

And HARBAUGH knows him well i think it would work out very nice!.

Rolle will be there this coming year, so if we do take a corner thats a year of tutelage under Rolle, and McAllister AND Ryan aswell as Harbaugh. With those four guys, we have no reason to worry about a corner not working out.

Now i might give up a second rounder for lito. The only way i would give it up is if we traded our 4th round pick and swapped 2nd rounders with Philly. Otherwise, i would take my chances in the first 3 rounds.

You're absolutely correct in saying Harbaugh knows Lito well, i would just rather draft a younger guy with loads of potential.

[rayvenfan_52]

and its not like we have enough cap space to get him along with all the other people the team needs to sign.

[BaltimoreBulldog]

no way we trade a 1st or 2nd rounder for lito. If lito was so good Eagles wouldn't have picked up Asante samuel, there is a reason they are trying to get rid of him. I think the most you offer is a 4th rounder for this guy because its clear the Eagles want to get rid of him.

I think our best bet is to draft a CB this year in the 2nd round and put him next to mcallister with rolle being the nickel back.

[Devastat1on]

no way we trade a 1st or 2nd rounder for lito. If lito was so good Eagles wouldn't have picked up Asante samuel, there is a reason they are trying to get rid of him. I think the most you offer is a 4th rounder for this guy because its clear the Eagles want to get rid of him.

I think our best bet is to draft a CB this year in the 2nd round and put him next to mcallister with rolle being the nickel back.

I guess Lito's two pro bowl appearances mean nothing about his talent and skill.. Lito's an excellent player, and theres no denying that, they just need more depth at corner and thats why they picked up Asante.

[BaltimoreBulldog]

I agree he is a good player but if they were satisfied with him they wouldnt need to sign a high price free agent cb in asante samuel. He has had alot of injuries over the past 3 years and we have enough injury problems at the CB position as it is and we need someone reliable that we can count on to play the hole season. I think we could use him on our team but not for a 1st,2nd or 3rd rounder. He will be very high priced and we can draft a corner on the 1st day of the draft for a hole lot cheaper and get some production out of him. I dont think we need to tie up anymore cap space on the secondary, need to start working on the otherside of the ball.

he missed 4 games last year, 3 games in 2006, and 6 games in 2005.