Flacco Upset About Playcalling?

[D_UP]

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Article from truth and rumors on fan nation about flacco, if its true i'm happy to hear joe is stepping up and showing he has the fire to be a true leader...my bad if we can't post links, basically article is about joe letting his feelings be known that he isn't happy with playcalling.

[bmorefan444]

I can't get the link to work

[TSizzle00]

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Article from truth and rumors on fan nation about flacco, if its true i'm happy to hear joe is stepping up and showing he has the fire to be a true leader...my bad if we can't post links, basically article is about joe letting his feelings be known that he isn't happy with playcalling.
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Good to know hes concerned with the play calling. Lets hope he sits down with Cam and talk about what they need to do to get better on offense. With these weapons its no reason why Flacco cant have 2TDs per game.

[AsianRice]

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Article from truth and rumors on fan nation about flacco, if its true i'm happy to hear joe is stepping up and showing he has the fire to be a true leader...my bad if we can't post links, basically article is about joe letting his feelings be known that he isn't happy with playcalling.
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Rumors? I don't trust it. If it's not on Ravens blog or Ravens main page, then it's really not 100% true.

On the side note, if it's true, I like Flacco's attitude but he needs to talk to Cam and Harb instead to the media.

[Ed_Reed20]

The link doesn't work but there are other articles(most notably on The Sun's website) talking about the same thing.

I'd be frustrated with the conservative play-calling too. If a team can't stop you running the ball(like the Broncos couldn't), I understand protecting a lead by pounding the rock but against a team with a QB like Brady, why in the world you don't go down-field, especially when the D is running a Cover-2, is beyond me.

The Ravens added a ton of weapons for Joe in the off-season and Sunday's game was the perfect time to put the game in his hands and let he and the rest of the offense slam the door on the Pats but it didn't happen.

[Ed_Reed20]

Here's the article suggesting Joe's frustration with the conservative-ness of the offense: http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bs-sp-preston-ravens-1019-20101018,0,1335957.column

[Eastern Shore Smaven Raven]

If there is some truth to this, than I have to side with Flacco on this. The guy is our "Franchise Quarterback" so let him play like one. Cam doesn't believe in calling audibles and he should. Flacco is in his third season and it is time to take training wheels off and let him lead this offense. We have more weapons on offense that we have ever had, and he is calling plays in critical situations that are reminicent of when Billick was here and we had no one on offense except for Jamal Lewis. Message to Cam, you took the reigns off of Rivers and look at his career, imagine what Flacco can do with the weapons he has. Let the kid grow up.

[Jamal]

No surprise there. At least we know that Flacco is letting the FO know about how Cam is doing.

[True]

Joe should have slapped Cam...with baby powder in his hand...

[ravensgirl20]

^^Thanks for posting the article. It was clear Sunday Joe was upset it was written all over his face. You couldn't miss it. I know I have a lot to learn when it comes to football, but I still don't understand the game plan switch Sunday. I read that the Pats were having trouble with the passing game. It appeared to be true with our 10 point lead. Then we suddenly switch to a run game and everything stalls? And yet we continue that way to the end. So yeah, I can see where Joe would be upset.

[Jamal]

Also, all those criticisms such as he isn't confident enough, or doesn't care enough should end after this.

[Romo Ravens]

If the defense can't stop the run, we pass the ball. If the defense can't stop the pass, we either run the ball or run countless screen's.

Off with Cam's head

[Ed_Reed20]

Mike Preston also brought up a great point that Harbuaugh should take some blame for the conservative approach taken by both Cam and Mattison against the Pats. He's done well to surround himself with knowledgeable assistants but at some point, he should have taken charge and told Cam and Mattison to be more aggressive.

[Clutch Ravens]

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Mike Preston also brought up a great point that Harbuaugh should take some blame for the conservative approach taken by both Cam and Mattison against the Pats. He's done well to surround himself with knowledgeable assistants but at some point, he should have taken charge and told Cam and Mattison to be more aggressive.
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Is it really a Head coaches job to tell his coordinators how to do their jobs?

Flacco aint the only one upset about Cam's playcalling. I honestly think Cam is scared of letting Flacco audible. If Flacco audibles then it means Cam isn't in control. Honestly I think Flacco being allowed to audible is the next best thing, the other being stripping Cam of playcalling privileges.

[Eastern Shore Smaven Raven]

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Is it really a Head coaches job to tell his coordinators how to do their jobs?

Flacco aint the only one upset about Cam's playcalling. I honestly think Cam is scared of letting Flacco audible. If Flacco audibles then it means Cam isn't in control. Honestly I think Flacco being allowed to audible is the next best thing, the other being stripping Cam of playcalling privileges.
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Cam has already said he thinks audibles are overrated. That really caused alarm for me. How can audibling be overrated when the top-level QBs in the league have the freedom to audible if they see a need to. Not giving Flacco the freedom to audible tells me that he doesn't think Flacco has enough understanding of the offense and that is a bad sign for our offense.

[Ed_Reed20]

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[b]Is it really a Head coaches job to tell his coordinators how to do their jobs?[/b]

Flacco aint the only one upset about Cam's playcalling. I honestly think Cam is scared of letting Flacco audible. If Flacco audibles then it means Cam isn't in control. Honestly I think Flacco being allowed to audible is the next best thing, the other being stripping Cam of playcalling privileges.
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It's a HC's job to manage the team overall and both coordinators employed passive game-plans that allowed the Pats to get back in and ultimately win the game.

[Clutch Ravens]

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It's a HC's job to manage the team overall and both coordinators employed passive game-plans that allowed the Pats to get back in and ultimately win the game.
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I know, but should veteran coordinators really need to be told that their game-plans aren't working? I know where you're coming from, but I feel it's the coordinators job to evaluate and adjust. If they can't do that and think on their feet, then they aren't cut out for the job. (Not that I'm saying Mattison should be fired)

[berad]

Again how Joe "looks" Are these the same people who say Joe looks like he doesn't have "confidence" or "passion"?

Anyways, this claim is probably more legitimate. No one on the offense was happy with the play-calling, it was a big factor in the loss. You can't outwardly say Joe is upset, though, unless he says it himself. Baseless claims, reporters seeing what they want to see.

[Bltravens]

Joe "Steamin Beamen" Flacco stand up!

"Yo yo you run snake eyes in the redzone"-Cam

"Cam you need to get on my page or shut the hell up"-Joe

anybody lol?

[Milton145]

I was extremely frustrated just from watching it so I can only imagine how Flacco feels.

[reediddy]

The problem, like others have stated above, is the lack of aggressiveness. You can't be conservative against the Patriots, rack up the points against them, keep Brady off the field. That's the only way to win

[Ed_Reed20]

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Joe "Steamin Beamen" Flacco stand up!

"Yo yo you run snake eyes in the redzone"-Cam

"Cam you need to get on my page or shut the hell up"-Joe

anybody lol?
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I can see Joe shooting the rap video in a speedo right now.

[ravenryan]

When Joe drops to hike the ball and the defense has stacked(with plenty of time to see it) the box and we run .That means there is no audibles allowed or he is not comfortable to change the play.He is only one step away,someone is holding him back or he just wont do it.I think the last time I saw a audible was when boller was here.Oh and is it just me or do I only see maybe one pump fake per game to draw the safeties off.I think Peyton does it almost every play weather it is a pass or run.There is not much keeping Joe from being elite.But what is it ?????????? Coaches or Joe

[DrMoonTooth]

I think it's time we give Joe more control of the offense. It's only fair considering he's the one that has to actually MAKE the plays, not Cameron. He's a grown man for crying out loud...let him lead like one.

[steeldude]

What happened to you guys running the no huddle that was so effective in preseason? You guys better do something or you will be sitting at home watching the playoffs!

[Kwothdaraven]

Im really starting to like Joes progression this season. He has showed this season that he can perform and win against great defenses, he has shown that he can overcome a bad performance greatly, and now hes showing that he is gaining confidence and is becoming a leader.

i just hope the coaches listen to him and FINALLY fully remove his leash.

[letsgoflacco]

He definitely was not happy with the sudden change in the game plan and he shouldn't! I think Joe needs to stand up for himself and the way he was acting at the end of the game I am sure he will. Cam needs to let Joe go, he was having one of the best games of his career and all of a sudden Cam put a stop to it. Joe needs to have some freedom. He soars in the no-huddle too.

Is Cam scared that he won't have control over the offense anymore? I don't know. But he shouldn't let that get in the way of winning. Was Cam scared that Joe was going to throw an interception? Well then that is just lack of trust and Cam needs to trust that Joe will get the ball into the receivers hands.

This cannot keep happening. We need to use the bye week to our advantage and work these kinks out.

[steeldude]

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Im really starting to like Joes progression this season. He has showed this season that he can perform and win against great defenses, he has shown that he can overcome a bad performance greatly, and now hes showing that he is gaining confidence and is becoming a leader.

i just hope the coaches listen to him and FINALLY fully remove his leash.
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I'm sorry I don't agree with your assessment of Joe. I base that solely on quarterback rating. 80.2 puts him near the bottom third of the league and only 7 TD passes in 6 games hardly makes him a real threat. Granted some of it it camerons defective play calling but to be honest I don't see fire in Joe's eyes. In my opinion he is playing like the rest of the talent on this team. Mediocre

[DrMoonTooth]

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I'm sorry I don't agree with your assessment of Joe. I base that solely on quarterback rating. 80.2 puts him near the bottom third of the league and only 7 TD passes in 6 games hardly makes him a real threat. Granted some of it it camerons defective play calling but to be honest I don't see fire in Joe's eyes. In my opinion he is playing like the rest of the talent on this team. Mediocre
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Of course you don't. You're merely looking at statistics instead of truly following the team and watching the games. Statistics are rarely reliable and never tell the whole story.

He was a threat enough in week 4...

[Jamal]

Guys, stop feeding the troll.