Why Does Cam Call The Dumbest Plays On 3rd & Short?

[VA_Fan]

Exactly fly..it all points to our OC. I hate to say it but I guess the truth does hurt sometimes. I get so angry watching this team sometimes because if I know what play is coming then the pro's on the opposite side of the ball know it too.

[FerrariFan87]

People who are calling for Cameron's head: with whom would you replace him? Al Saunders?

Our lack of offensive consistency falls squarely on the shoulders of the coordinator for not putting all of these weapons in the most advantageous position to excel. There's no reason why this team can't score 28 points per game easily, and I blame Cameron. If things don't come together this season, it'll be time to move in another direction.

[gabefergy]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1287427859' post='512585']
No, he really hasn't.

Think about it like this.

Look at the talent on this offense: Flacco, Rice, McGahee, Heap, Boldin, Mason, Houshmanzedah and a solid offensive line.
That is possibly the most talented offense in the entire league. How can an offense this good perform so mediocrely? There has to be a reason for it.
And I think pretty clearly the players are playing at the level expected of them, for the most part. So what other reason can there be for such a poor return on investment?
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First, I agree that there is a lot of talent on the Raven's offense, but best in the league is kind of a stretch.

Second, its not like the performances have been terrible. Consider we have played Jets, Pitt, Bengals, NE on the road. We managed to win 2 of those games and were in position to win the the other 2. You cant ask for perfection every single game, the other team is trying to win as well. Sometimes they get better the better play calls/execution. Its how the NFL works

Finally, tell me the last team that replaced their OC midway through the season and was better for it. Cam knows this offense, who do you want to replace him with? Jim Zorn?

I agree that there is rooom for improvement, but the sky is not falling.

[darklight1216]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1287427859' post='512585']
No, he really hasn't.

Think about it like this.

Look at the talent on this offense: Flacco, Rice, McGahee, Heap, Boldin, Mason, Houshmanzedah and a solid offensive line.
That is possibly the most talented offense in the entire league. How can an offense this good perform so mediocrely? There has to be a reason for it.
And I think pretty clearly the players are playing at the level expected of them, for the most part. So what other reason can there be for such a poor return on investment?
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Maybe it's because Cam has forgotten all of those players, save the second one, exist.

[quote name='FerrariFan87' timestamp='1287428418' post='512593']
People who are calling for Cameron's head: with whom would you replace him? Al Saunders?

Our lack of offensive consistency falls squarely on the shoulders of the coordinator for not putting all of these weapons in the most advantageous position to excel. There's no reason why this team can't score 28 points per game easily, and I blame Cameron. If things don't come together this season, it'll be time to move in another direction.
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I don't know, Ozzie can figure that out. For what it's worth, I'm not advocating a change right now; that would be counter-productive. If the team keeps collapsing and under utilizing the best players for the rest of the season, and if they collapse in the post-season for the third time in a row, I think it might be time for a change. One more year for him to get it together would be the absolute maximum that I personally would want to wait, but of course, it's not up to me.

Does anyone know how long Cam's contract was?

[CapoRocky]

[quote name='Jamal' timestamp='1287350902' post='510873']
But Flacco is a 3rd year QB. He should know about something like that at this point.

If he can't change the play, than call a timeout. I know his stats look great, but that was a crippling decision...
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This is an excellent point. It's not like Flacco has plays taped to his arm as when he was a rookie. The local rag (we all know which newspaper that is) had a lame article about Flacco calling audibles at the line of scrimage. What do they think we have here, Payton Manning? It's like a kicker only making 80% of his kicks. When he blows the game for us then we all scream for his head. We hung tough, but that QB sneak was the beginning of the end for us.

[Polamaluisabeast_43]

[quote name='Jamal' timestamp='1287353352' post='511042']
The thing that makes it worse, is that Harbs seems to love Cam, so we wont be seeing him leave anytime soon.

Unless hes offered a HC job.
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There was a reason Cam Cameron was 1-15 the year he was the head coach of the Dolphins in 2007 it's simply because maybe he just isnt that good. I do find it ironic and funny that the only win he got in his career as an NFL head coach that year came against the Ravens...

[Tighthead420]

All the Cam apologists need to remember...it was Cam who drafted horribly in Miami and led them to a 1-15 season. So the terrible head coach from Miami is now our OC (after our offense desperately needed a boost...we downgraded IMO) I was living there at the time and the same arguments were being lobbed. He was an awful head coach and is doing rather poorly as an OC. Audibles are overrated? Seriously...that's what you come up with when everyone and their mother is criticizing your play calling?

So they hire Jim Zorn...you know the QB coach who turned Jason Campbell into the QB he is now. It really made me shake my head.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Tighthead420' timestamp='1287446036' post='513022']
All the Cam apologists need to remember...it was Cam who drafted horribly in Miami and led them to a 1-15 season. So the terrible head coach from Miami is now our OC (after our offense desperately needed a boost...we downgraded IMO) I was living there at the time and the same arguments were being lobbed. He was an awful head coach and is doing rather poorly as an OC. Audibles are overrated? Seriously...that's what you come up with when everyone and their mother is criticizing your play calling?

[b]So they hire Jim Zorn...you know the QB coach who turned Jason Campbell into the QB he is now. It really made me shake my head.[/b]
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How in the world did Zorn turn Campbell into the QB he is today? Do you realize Campbell had a different offensive coordinator every year in college and has seen several different OCs in the NFL? Seriously...

[XxSizzleXx]

The one call that really puzzles me is the run on 2nd and 9 when they were on their own 20 in OT. It was the last possession they had before the Patriots came down and scored. I mean even with a generous punt of 50 yards and no return would put them at the 30, which would mean they would only need about 35 yards to be in FG range. Now I don't know about you's but I know Bellicheck and Brady sure as hell think they can get that 35 yards and put the kicker in position to win the ball game. We had PLENTY of time on the clock so why not put the ball in your QB's hands like they did in Pittsburgh and try to win the game, instead of not trying to lose it. It would of been a great time to pull a screen on that second down, since the run was going absolutely no where since near the end of the 3rd. If Rice doesn't make the first down then give Flacco a chance to get it in the gun on 3rd. I know Flacco sure would of been happier with a 3rd and 3 or 4 than a 3rd and 9.

[ravenanchors]

[quote name='Yaha' timestamp='1287405179' post='512049']
Cam is trying to prove his system will work no matter if the other team knows what the Ravens play call is..

The reason the Ravens lost this very important huge game is self need by Cam and his desire to prove his theory.

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This is absolutely true. Cam does not take into consideration the opposing teams weakness. Cam's game plan consists of(I will tell them what to do and they will do it because I am great). There is no strategy or deception, just plain vanilla plays. There is a lack of intellectual thought in Cams Play calling. The pats adjusted their game plan, Cam did not. The same with the denver game.

The reason the Ravens have won as many games in the past couple years is not because of Cam. It was because the Ravens had great players. The ravens will win more games this year but if Cam does not straighten out his play calling, they will not win the big ones.

[steeldude]

I feel sorry for you guys. You have some really great talent on your team and they have no idea how to utilize it. Some of the play calling I saw was laughable. There is no way you guys shouldn't be able to pick up 1 yard. Not only on Sunday but through the whole year so far. As far as I'm concerned I am not concerned about the Baltimore Ravens in the big NFL picture. Sorry to have to tell all you fans the sad truth! At least my perspective on it>good luck!

[berad]

[quote name='steeldude' timestamp='1287448847' post='513106']
I feel sorry for you guys. You have some really great talent on your team and they have no idea how to utilize it. Some of the play calling I saw was laughable. There is no way you guys shouldn't be able to pick up 1 yard. Not only on Sunday but through the whole year so far. As far as I'm concerned I am not concerned about the Baltimore Ravens in the big NFL picture. Sorry to have to tell all you fans the sad truth! At least my perspective on it>good luck!
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17-14.

[IMissMattStover]

Look guys, this same whining came up with Matt Cavanaugh a few years back. there is nothing wrong with Cam, and he will learn from his mistakes. Back off.

[DrMoonTooth]

[quote name='IMissMattStover' timestamp='1287449245' post='513135']
Look guys, this same whining came up with Matt Cavanaugh a few years back. there is nothing wrong with Cam, and he will learn from his mistakes. Back off.
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Nothing wrong with Cam Cameron? The guy said "audibling is overrated"...excuse me? Sorry...I've supported Cameron through all the bashing up to this point, but to make such a bold statement? Since when is audibling overrated? I guarantee you he has instilled the same mentality in Flacco. No wonder he didn't audible on that crucial third down. If the gap Flacco was going to run through was jammed with guys like Vince Wilfork, why not change to a short slant route? We didn't have success running all day with Rice, so why is Flacco any different? I think Flacco has TOO much respect for Cam Cameron. If Cam would just let Flacco make adjustments as HE deems fit, we wouldn't have this many problems. One of these days Cameron has to just let Flacco go out and play catch with all these weapons, because that's what should of happened yesterday against a pansy Patriots secondary.

[berad]

[quote name='IMissMattStover' timestamp='1287449245' post='513135']
Look guys, this same whining came up with Matt Cavanaugh a few years back. there is nothing wrong with Cam, and he will learn from his mistakes. Back off.
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This same whining is happening all around the NFL.. Almost every fanbase wants their OC's head haha, go to the Pittsburgh site - they've been complaining about Arians for years, even after he helped them win a Super Bowl.