The Crying Thread

[darklight1216]

I hate missing Ravens games when the Redskins play at home.

[Polamaluisabeast_43]

[quote name='darklight1216' timestamp='1287102562' post='507601']
Almost beating the Ravens proves they are almost as good as the Ravens.

Thanks for educating us on the records though, I'm sure we were all clueless about that. j/k
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Both teams are fairly evenly matched. The Ravens were the better team last week here in Pittsburgh but not by much is all I'm saying. It will still come down to that rematch in December to determine who wins this division I really believe that...

[hawkprey]

Here's my complaint:

[quote name='Polamaluisabeast_43' timestamp='1287102192' post='507599']
The Ravens won the game without Ed Reed as well so dont know if that's equal to Ben being out or anywhere close...
[/quote]

You acknowledge that although you were missing Big Ben, we were missing Ed Reed.

[quote name='Polamaluisabeast_43' timestamp='1287102192' post='507599']
With all that being said, if the Steelers were able to hang with Baltimore and damn near pull off a win with Batch as their QB it proves that they are just as good as the Ravens are. [/quote]

Now you're back to using not having Ben as an excuse.

[quote name='Polamaluisabeast_43' timestamp='1287102192' post='507599']
Flacco will also have to beat the Steelers this time around with Ben Roethlisberger as their starting QB something he has yet to do... [/quote]

Here too.

It sounds like Ben's absence counts three times - once to negate a lack of Ed Reed, another to negate a loss, and a third because he is better than Flacco.

[Polamaluisabeast_43]

[quote name='hawkprey' timestamp='1287104440' post='507625']
Here's my complaint:



You acknowledge that although you were missing Big Ben, we were missing Ed Reed.



Now you're back to using not having Ben as an excuse.



Here too.

It sounds like Ben's absence counts three times - once to negate a lack of Ed Reed, another to negate a loss, and a third because he is better than Flacco.
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Well when both of them are back in December and playing in Baltimore we shall see who is the better team on that night. All I know is the Steelers were one first down away in that game last week from closing that game out and not giving Flacco and the Ravens offense another chance to win the game. Would the Steelers have gotten the first down or try to throw for the first down had Ben been playing?? We will never know.

[ravenryan]

Trying to get the wings cooked by halftime.I am jonesing big time for a little Ed Reed.Oh and how about two little flags on each side of Tom Brady's hips.I would now like to put that in the opposite order.Go Ravens and Ref's

[ravenryan]

[quote name='Polamaluisabeast_43' timestamp='1287104869' post='507627']
Well when both of them are back in December and playing in Baltimore we shall see who is the better team on that night. All I know is the Steelers were one first down away in that game last week from closing that game out and not giving Flacco and the Ravens offense another chance to win the game. Would the Steelers have gotten the first down or try to throw for the first down had Ben been playing?? We will never know.
[/quote] Crying post from abroad gotta love it .It's entertaining

[mhead66]

[quote name='ravenryan' timestamp='1287106724' post='507648']
Crying post from abroad gotta love it .It's entertaining
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Well, it [b]is[/b] the crying thread!

[ravensdfan]

[quote name='Polamaluisabeast_43' timestamp='1287104869' post='507627']
Well when both of them are back in December and playing in Baltimore we shall see who is the better team on that night. All I know is the Steelers were one first down away in that game last week from closing that game out and not giving Flacco and the Ravens offense another chance to win the game. Would the Steelers have gotten the first down or try to throw for the first down had Ben been playing?? We will never know.
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Will be interesting to see if Ben actually plays in Baltimore this year. For one reason or another, he's missed the game in Baltimore since 2006 except for the one in 2008.

[ravensdfan]

[quote name='Polamaluisabeast_43' timestamp='1287104869' post='507627']
Well when both of them are back in December and playing in Baltimore we shall see who is the better team on that night. [b]All I know is the Steelers were one first down away in that game last week from closing that game out [/b]and not giving Flacco and the Ravens offense another chance to win the game. Would the Steelers have gotten the first down or try to throw for the first down had Ben been playing?? We will never know.
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Our last seven meetings have been decided by 4 pts or less. I'm sure in every game we Ravens' fans could just as easily go well IF we'd done this or that we would have won.

[jaege]

Here is what gets me...


All the woulda shoulda coulda.[i] The Steelers woulda won if it were not for Big Ben missing. They were one 1st down from winning. The Ravens only won in the last few seconds.[/i] Wrong, wrong and so what?


If they coulda done it, they woulda done it. Since they didn't do it, they could NOT do it. The Ravens played a better game, the proof being that they won.

Ben not being there was due to Ben and his arrogance, not some unavoidable mishap. The idea of "if" he were there is insignificant, since he could not be there, reality being what it is.

A game is 60 minutes long and a touch down only takes a few seconds, be they the first few seconds of the 1st quarter or the last few of the last quarter. Both are worth 6 points.

And the Steelers didn't get the 1st down because their team could not get the job done. What happened is what should, could and would happen. Trying to twist reality to be something else is delusional.


And we will see what happens in December. I "really believe" that with or without Ben the Ravens are going to win again.

[Guest RBates]

Lol arrogant steelers fans. You are not that good without the refs help, except this time here in B-more we will beat Steelers and the refs if need be. The sad thing about all of this is, the ravens are only going to get better as the season goes on. BA and Ed Reed then Stallworth and maybe Gaither are you kidding me.

[Polamaluisabeast_43]

[quote name='ravensdfan' timestamp='1287108721' post='507676']
Will be interesting to see if Ben actually plays in Baltimore this year. For one reason or another, he's missed the game in Baltimore since 2006 except for the one in 2008.
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It's a pretty safe bet barring major injury that Ben isnt going to miss the Ravens game in December he will be there for that one. Speaking of 2006 that is the last time the Ravens beat the Steelers when Ben was the starting QB and actually playing. It's actually the only 2 times the Ravens have ever beaten the Steelers when Ben Roethlisberger was the starting QB since he came into the league in 2004. Since 2004 Ben is 7-2 lifetime against the Ravens and has won the last 5 meetings. That's a pretty good win loss record if you ask me. And if you look at the last 5 wins the Steelers have had over the Ravens since 2008 you can make a strong case that Ben Roethlisberger and all the key plays he made late in all of these games and throughout the game in general was the main difference between the Steelers winning and losing.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='Polamaluisabeast_43' timestamp='1287113535' post='507731']
It's a pretty safe bet barring major injury that Ben isnt going to miss the Ravens game in December he will be there for that one. Speaking of 2006 that is the last time the Ravens beat the Steelers when Ben was the starting QB and actually playing. It's actually the only 2 times the Ravens have ever beaten the Steelers when Ben Roethlisberger was the starting QB since he came into the league in 2004. Since 2004 Ben is 7-2 lifetime against the Ravens and has won the last 5 meetings. That's a pretty good win loss record [b]if you ask me.[/b] And. if you look at the last 5 wins the Steelers have had over the Ravens since 2008 you can make a strong case that Ben Roethlisberger and all the key plays he made late in all of these games and throughout the game in general was the main difference between the Steelers winning and losing.
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Well, thank god no one asked.......

[1/28/01]

[quote name='Polamaluisabeast_43' timestamp='1287114314' post='507739']
Haha nobody needs to ask me anyway the proof is already there. And that proof is when Ben plays against the Ravens more times then not the Steelers win and the Ravens dont those are the facts...
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Awesome.....well, I live in the present and presently the Ravens beat the Steelers. Those are the facts as well my friend.

[ravensdfan]

[quote name='Polamaluisabeast_43' timestamp='1287113535' post='507731']
It's a pretty safe bet barring major injury that Ben isnt going to miss the Ravens game in December he will be there for that one. Speaking of 2006 that is the last time the Ravens beat the Steelers when Ben was the starting QB and actually playing. It's actually the only 2 times the Ravens have ever beaten the Steelers when Ben Roethlisberger was the starting QB since he came into the league in 2004. Since 2004 [b]Ben is 7-2 lifetime against the Ravens and has won the last 5 meetings. That's a pretty good win loss record if you ask me.[/b] And if you look at the last 5 wins the Steelers have had over the Ravens since 2008 you can make a strong case that Ben Roethlisberger and all the key plays he made late in all of these games and throughout the game in general was the main difference between the Steelers winning and losing.
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Wasn't trying to suggest that he purposely misses the games. The point being that the majority of those wins came at Heinz field. A tough place to win whether Ben is under center or not. Ben's record when playing in Baltimore is 1-2.

[Polamaluisabeast_43]

[quote name='ravensdfan' timestamp='1287114649' post='507742']
Wasn't trying to suggest that he purposely misses the games. The point being that the majority of those wins came at Heinz field. A tough place to win whether Ben is under center or not. Ben's record when playing in Baltimore is 1-2.
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It's actually 1-1 not 1-2. That game in 2004 when Ben came in relief for Tommy Maddox in his first NFL game doesnt fully count as a loss on Ben because the Steelers were down by 17 points I believe when he entered the game in the 3rd quarter. The Ravens won that game 30-13 but Ben didnt play the entire game...

[Polamaluisabeast_43]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1287114613' post='507741']
Awesome.....well, I live in the present and presently the Ravens beat the Steelers. Those are the facts as well my friend.
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Yes they did and unfortunately for the Ravens they dont hand out division title crowns for games won in October...The game in December will be a much more critical and important game. We will see if Joe Flacco has what it takes one more time to get the job done against the Steelers defense...

[1/28/01]

[quote name='Polamaluisabeast_43' timestamp='1287115010' post='507745']
Yes they did and unfortunately for the Ravens they dont hand out division title crowns for games won in October...The game in December will be a much more critical and important game. We will see if Joe Flacco has what it takes one more time to get the job done against the Steelers defense...
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First, that game needs to mean something, so keep it up Steelers. If you guys don't keep winning, the game means squat. All in good fun here, just remember whose territory you're in right now

[JohnJohnson]

Here's my point:

Ben has been very successful against the Ravens. The Colts, Patriots, and Steelers have given the Ravens trouble for a long time now, despite some very close games. The reason is clear; they had great QB play. So all of those victories that you give Ben credit for prior to 2008; they came against a team with terrible QB play, worse than Charlie Batch. We could say in 2008 that Ben barely beat the Ravens in the two regular season games, 13-9 (last minute drive) and 23-20 (overtime), despite us having a ROOKIE QB. In the playoffs it was the turnovers that led the Steelers over the Ravens, not necessarily Ben.

You can throw all of that out the window, because we have a QB now. The fact that you got Ben four years before we got rid of Kyle Boller and drafted Flacco might have something to do with the trends that Steelers fans keep citing.

[Ravensdiciple96]

[quote name='Polamaluisabeast_43' timestamp='1287104869' post='507627']
Well when both of them are back in December and playing in Baltimore we shall see who is the better team on that night. All I know is the Steelers were one first down away in that game last week from closing that game out and not giving Flacco and the Ravens offense another chance to win the game. Would the Steelers have gotten the first down or try to throw for the first down had Ben been playing?? We will never know.
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Which also means your Steelers got OUT COACHED sport! Maybe they should of thought about waiting for that HOF induction for Dick, what a lame and sorry call to bring Tray Polmolive on that right side blitz. Wow Cam was all over that one lmao! And further more you just worry about the Browns, you all did have trouble with them last year didn't ya lol

[Ravensdiciple96]

Oh and if it wasn't for us you would probably still be watching Tommy Maddox run your offense. Now bow out gracefully and thank us!! HOUSH ya daddy Steeler fans?!?!?!? THE END...

[Jabara]

[quote name='Polamaluisabeast_43' timestamp='1287104869' post='507627']
Well when both of them are back in December and playing in Baltimore we shall see who is the better team on that night. All I know is the Steelers were one first down away in that game last week from closing that game out and not giving Flacco and the Ravens offense another chance to win the game. Would the Steelers have gotten the first down or try to throw for the first down had Ben been playing?? We will never know.
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The Ultimate Whine Has Been Crowned!
...and probably cried over...
I hate the "what if..." argument, maybe that's a whine of mine.
"We will never know."
We'll never know because it didn't happen, I'll tell you what we do know, and it's an empirical fact, that the Ravens won and the Steelers lost.
Acceptance is underrated. What I saw was a football game was played, and one team played better football than the other under all circumstances.
What if [u]Ben comes to Bmore[/u], which sounds like a movie, and happens to lose, would that be because we have home field advantage?
What if Snoop and Dre didn't get together, would Snoop ever had made it so big? Would he never had a chance to be on Larry King Live eating chicken and waffles with Larry and driving cars?
You can [i]what if[/i] all you want, but it's not going to help you understand what is going on, or what happened.


P.S. I love Snoop by the way, but he's a Steelers fan.
Ravens up, Snoop down.

[Ravensdiciple96]

[quote name='Jabara' timestamp='1287127446' post='507780']
The Ultimate Whine Has Been Crowned!
...and probably cried over...
I hate the "what if..." argument, maybe that's a whine of mine.
"We will never know."
We'll never know because it didn't happen, I'll tell you what we do know, and it's an empirical fact, that the Ravens won and the Steelers lost.
Acceptance is underrated. What I saw was a football game was played, and one team played better football than the other under all circumstances.
What if [u]Ben comes to Bmore[/u], which sounds like a movie, and happens to lose, would that be because we have home field advantage?
What if Snoop and Dre didn't get together, would Snoop ever had made it so big? Would he never had a chance to be on Larry King Live eating chicken and waffles with Larry and driving cars?
You can [i]what if[/i] all you want, but it's not going to help you understand what is going on, or what happened.


P.S. I love Snoop by the way, but he's a Steelers fan.
Ravens up, Snoop down.
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Of course it would be because we had the home field advantage come December 5th, if Pittsburgh leaves with their tails tucked. Pittsburgh fans have an excuse for everything, even the loss a few weeks ago of course it was because Ben wasn't playing. But sorry Webb had Wallace shut down before the game even started and Fabe had a struggle here and there but Ben would of done a little more than Batch, but Ben couldn't catch it for his guys either. Last time I checked as well Ben plays offense, so what happened to this STELLAR #1 BOMB PITTSBURGH DEFENSE?!? Oh and Snoop sucks by himself, he's only legit when he is featured (IMO)..Kind of like Pittsburgh, hmmmmm I see a trend here.....

Oh and the most funny thing with the Pittsburgh fans this season, is when they were 3-0 that was the best BECAUSE IT WAS WITHOUT BEN and they were doing the damn thing WITHOUT BEN. Then they lose to us and of course it was because THEY WERE WITHOUT BEN LMAO!!! Pittsburgh fans are funny.

[ravenanchors]

Does this mean Ben is only worth 3 points. Thats not saying much.

The Ravens haven't had an offense since 2004. It wasn't until Billick left that the Ravens started building the offense.

The Ravens finally have an offense in place and it is only getting better, by December the Ravens should be a machine.

The reason the steelers have won matchups is not so much because of Ben but because of their defense and our offense not being very good.

But the same for the Ravens wins, it was because of their Defense.

The meetings between the Ravens and Steelers are split almost even and defenses are the reason. Not the offense.

I almost forgot to cry about something.

I need to cry about the wining Ravens fans, get on board already.

[bmorefan444]

My complaint: I just waited for the sportscenter sidebar to get to "Ravens/Patriots". It turned out to be a 30 second segment on what the Patriots will do to get first downs.... Didn't even mention the word Raven.

[McBoller]

this thread sucks.

[yakraven]

GREAT THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

my main complaint is all the drivel abt us not having any picks, but we've still 4 games.
now if we had held the two we had a shot at in the Cincy game, we'd be 5-0, but still ....

[the color urple]

[quote name='757RavensFan' timestamp='1287079653' post='507301']
Honestly, I could care less how we're ranked after week 5. We all know it's the hot team going into the playoffs that makes the most noise.

But if I had something to cry about, I want to see Haruki play more.
[/quote]

I definitely agree. I love Haruki. He's sooo athletic and so fast. I love watching him blitz!

[flynismo]

[quote name='Polamaluisabeast_43' timestamp='1287104869' post='507627']<br />Well when both of them are back in December and playing in Baltimore we shall see who is the better team on that night. All I know is the Steelers were one first down away in that game last week from closing that game out and not giving Flacco and the Ravens offense another chance to win the game. Would the Steelers have gotten the first down or try to throw for the first down had Ben been playing?? We will never know.<br />[/quote]


Holy cow, not only are the Steelers better than us because they lost to us without their precious QB, but the Steelers even whine better than we do!

You should have been a CB in the NFL, your backpedaling is amazing!

[12th man]

My complaints,
Cam play calling is subject to say the least
Not getting wr involved enough
no respect
picking up the pace offense when need to change the pace of the game
Not getting more TE involved , I mean what the heck did we get two in the draft when we barely use 1
Not enough of suggs getting to QB or JJ pressure is good but sack are better.
return game need WR reed or prince or someone better than what we have.