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Article On Ray Ray And James Farrior Vs Father Time

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http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/columnists/s_702507.html

I think what's more interesting than a Pittsburgh publication giving Ray some love is he talks about Farrior with respect as a sort of equal. I don't think I've ever heard Ray mention another veteran linebacker other than to say he's more talented than Urlacher.
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When comparing Farrior and Lewis, it isn't really fair.

James Farrior is a good MLB, Ray Lewis is the best middle linebacker of all time, definitely the most dominant defensive player of his generation. Period.

That said, both have played for a long time at a high level. Ray's is just considerably higher.
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[quote name='berad' timestamp='1286315820' post='499538']
When comparing Farrior and Lewis, it isn't really fair.

James Farrior is a good MLB, Ray Lewis is the best middle linebacker of all time, definitely the most dominant defensive player of his generation. Period.

That said, both have played for a long time at a high level. Ray's is just considerably higher.
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IMO I feel the same as you, with respect to Ray. He has been, and will continue to be the spiritual heart and soul of our team while he plays.

That said, when comparing Farrior with Lewis, their career stats are considerably similar, with only a slight edge going to Ray in most categories.
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Every team the Ravens play against writes an article comparing their MLB with Ray. The Giants (Pierce), Raiders (Morrison) are a few examples.
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Farrior's career reminds me of Jim "Hacksaw" Reynolds. Solid player for a long time, made a few pro bowls, and won a few super bowls.
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Interesting how they saw it fit to include 'Steelers MVP' in James Farriors' awards, and not 'Superbowl MVP' in Rays. Otherwise a good article though. I've got alot of respect for Farrior and it is apparent that Ray does as well.
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I like it! Surprisingly respectful and balanced coming from a Pittsburgh writer. Two old warriors indeed. The mutual respect the two men have for each other was obvious.

No they didn't put in Rayray's Super Bowl MVP but note they did list his two DPOYs.
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[quote name='BloodRaven' timestamp='1286465719' post='501110']
According to, well [i]us,[/i] Ray has the most tackles by any NFL player ever.
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ture. I think they could be varified though.
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[quote name='H8R' timestamp='1286468426' post='501146']
ture. I think they could be varified though.
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I agree to an extent.

Certain tackles are extremely subjective. Let's say Ray meets a RB in the backfield and stops his forward momentum with a hit but falls off as others come to clean up the play. Do you credit Ray with a solo tackle, assist or nothing at all? Or what if two people have a RB corralled but the RB is still churning his legs until Ray swoops in and jumps on the pile to bring everyone down. What does Ray get there?
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[quote name='H8R' timestamp='1286468426' post='501146']
ture. I think they could be varified though.
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I don't know, Ray (and this is in no way a criticism) is involved in alot of gang tackles, and only 2 people can really be accredited the tackle (one solo and one assist, which I've always thought was a little misleading but whatever). And alot of the time I've seen players accredited the tackle in a gang tackle when it should have clearly gone to someone else in my opinion. So there's a lot more subjectivity than someone might think.
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