Merged--Denver: Week 5

[PuRock]

[quote name='funky141' timestamp='1286334601' post='499870']
Sorry to bring this up but two Sundays ago Ravens fans were calling for Bulger to start over Flacco.
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Just wait until after Flacco's next bad game, or if we lose two games in a row. We'll be back to square one and the rational fans will have to go into defense mode again.

[flynismo]

[quote name='funky141' timestamp='1286334601' post='499870']<br />Sorry to bring this up but two Sundays ago Ravens fans were calling for Bulger to start over Flacco.<br />[/quote]

Yeah...we have a word for those kind of people, but I'll get another warning if I tell you what it is.

[flynismo]

[quote name='Orange&amp;Blue19' timestamp='1286332644' post='499829']<br />Yeah man. You are WAY to biased to talk football with apparently. <br /><br />Have fun thinking all of that, because frankly most of it is ridiculous and obviously you don't know much about Denver.<br /><br />It's a Ravens board, I understand that, but this reply is EXTREMELY biased, whereas other posters on this board will actually engage in a decent convo.<br />[/quote]

Okay. And after we blow Denver out on Sunday, will I still be biased and ridiculous then?

Tell me something. What exactly did you not agree with? You dont think our recievers are FAR better than Denvers? You dont think that Ray Rice (or McGahee) is FAR better than than anyone in your backfield? You don't think Flacco is at least as good, if not better than Orton? You don't think our defense is FAR superior to Denvers? Please enlighten me on what I am so wrong about.

[12and4]

The more i read this thread, the more I get the feeling that you guys are very uneducated about the broncos team.


38-17 was your guess??? really... With what offense will you be scoring points like that, against which defense?

Manning and the colts scored 27 points...


we held chris johnson to 19 carries and 53 yards.



For the fan saying that mcd is stuck on the titans while harbaugh has moved on, that is totally erroneous... the media is stuck on what mcd said on monday.. that doesn't mean mcd really cares either way...

in his entire 21 minute presser, he said one little thing that got taken out of context and made to look like an attack on fisher...



I know you think I'm a homer for thinking we have a chance... but we really do.

#1 passing offense vs the #1 passing defense basically cancels out each other (for the sake of argument)... so it really becomes how tightly our defense can hold the ravens offense, which had been fairly inconsistent all year. Our defense this year so far has held pretty decently when we needed them to.



i'm a man of few words... but if you think this team is just going to roll over and give up, your wrong...


and its not a trap game... denver's too gooda team to be considered a trap game.


the game against the titans looked close because of the KRTD... but had he not scored on that the score would be 26-13... oh and i banked on that game, took broncos to win straight up which paid out 2.6 to 1...

ravens are favored by 7 this game, i took this game on the under.. i forget what it was.

but if I were to bet on this game, i'd wait till the line shifts one way or the other first... I'd take broncos at +7.5...

as far as predicting the games score... there are a few scenarios in my head... and i've stated a few already..

17-13 broncos or ravens..
23-14 ravens...
80-0 broncos.


out of the 4, i'd take the last one as most likely

[Ravens Beast]

[quote name='12and4' timestamp='1286336510' post='499912']
The more i read this thread, the more I get the feeling that you guys are very uneducated about the broncos team.


38-17 was your guess??? really... With what offense will you be scoring points like that, against which defense?

Manning and the colts scored 27 points...


we held chris johnson to 19 carries and 53 yards.



For the fan saying that mcd is stuck on the titans while harbaugh has moved on, that is totally erroneous... the media is stuck on what mcd said on monday.. that doesn't mean mcd really cares either way...

in his entire 21 minute presser, he said one little thing that got taken out of context and made to look like an attack on fisher...



I know you think I'm a homer for thinking we have a chance... but we really do.

#1 passing offense vs the #1 passing defense basically cancels out each other (for the sake of argument)... so it really becomes how tightly our defense can hold the ravens offense, which had been fairly inconsistent all year. Our defense this year so far has held pretty decently when we needed them to.



[b]i'm a man of few words[/b]... but if you think this team is just going to roll over and give up, your wrong...


and its not a trap game... denver's too gooda team to be considered a trap game.


the game against the titans looked close because of the KRTD... but had he not scored on that the score would be 26-13... oh and i banked on that game, took broncos to win straight up which paid out 2.6 to 1...

ravens are favored by 7 this game, i took this game on the under.. i forget what it was.

but if I were to bet on this game, i'd wait till the line shifts one way or the other first... I'd take broncos at +7.5...

as far as predicting the games score... there are a few scenarios in my head... and i've stated a few already..

17-13 broncos or ravens..
23-14 ravens...
80-0 broncos.


out of the 4, i'd take the last one as most likely
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Obviously you're not..

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='12and4' timestamp='1286336510' post='499912']
The more i read this thread, the more I get the feeling that you guys are very uneducated about the broncos team.
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Well, this is a Ravens forum. We don't talk about your Broncos much here.

[Orange&Blue19]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1286336400' post='499910']
Okay. And after we blow Denver out on Sunday, will I still be biased and ridiculous then?

Tell me something. What exactly did you not agree with? You dont think our recievers are FAR better than Denvers? You dont think that Ray Rice (or McGahee) is FAR better than than anyone in your backfield? You don't think Flacco is at least as good, if not better than Orton? You don't think our defense is FAR superior to Denvers? Please enlighten me on what I am so wrong about.
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If you don't blow us out? You don't seem like the type that will take your crow, you seem like the excuse type, or if you beat us by 10, you'll consider something like that a "blowout".

No, I don't think your receivers are far better than ours, not even close. I think Boldin is the best receiver on the field. But I would take our group. D-Thomas, Eddie, Lloyd, Gaffney, Decker, Willis. I have faith in all of them and they have all been great this year (expect decker and willis, who haven't played due to depth).

Yes, Ray Rice is better than our RB's, never said he wasn't. I said our run defense is greatly improved, and if we have held CJ and MJD in check, I have faith we can do the same.

I like Flacco, I do. But I would definitely take Orton over him right now with how Orton is playing. Leads the #1 pass offense in the league, with no run game, so defenses know he is going to be passing, yet he still has major success.

Your front 7 is definitely better than ours, no doubt. I would take our secondary over yours though. Even though your secondary is ranked #1, you haven't played any "good" passing teams yet, expect for Cincy. Your defense is better overall, yes, I give you that.

There ya go, you have been enlightened. Now once again, I NEVER said we are going to beat you, I just don't think it will be a blowout whatsoever. I see this as being a close game in my opinion.

[flynismo]

[quote name='12and4' timestamp='1286336510' post='499912']<br />The more i read this thread, the more I get the feeling that you guys are very uneducated about the broncos team.<br /><br /><br />38-17 was your guess??? really... With what offense will you be scoring points like that, against which defense?<br /><br />Manning and the colts scored 27 points...<br /><br /><br />we held chris johnson to 19 carries and 53 yards.<br /><br /><br /><br />For the fan saying that mcd is stuck on the titans while harbaugh has moved on, that is totally erroneous... the media is stuck on what mcd said on monday.. that doesn't mean mcd really cares either way...<br /><br />in his entire 21 minute presser, he said one little thing that got taken out of context and made to look like an attack on fisher...<br /><br /><br /><br />I know you think I'm a homer for thinking we have a chance... but we really do.<br /><br />#1 passing offense vs the #1 passing defense basically cancels out each other (for the sake of argument)... so it really becomes how tightly our defense can hold the ravens offense, which had been fairly inconsistent all year. Our defense this year so far has held pretty decently when we needed them to.<br /><br /><br /><br />i'm a man of few words... but if you think this team is just going to roll over and give up, your wrong...<br /><br /><br />and its not a trap game... denver's too gooda team to be considered a trap game.<br /><br /><br />the game against the titans looked close because of the KRTD... but had he not scored on that the score would be 26-13... oh and i banked on that game, took broncos to win straight up which paid out 2.6 to 1... <img src='http://boards.baltimoreravens.com/public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /><br /><br />ravens are favored by 7 this game, i took this game on the under.. i forget what it was.<br /><br />but if I were to bet on this game, i'd wait till the line shifts one way or the other first... I'd take broncos at +7.5...<br /><br />as far as predicting the games score... there are a few scenarios in my head... and i've stated a few already..<br /><br />17-13 broncos or ravens..<br />23-14 ravens...<br />80-0 broncos.<br /><br /><br />out of the 4, i'd take the last one as most likely<br />[/quote]


Actually, I said 38-13, or at least I meant to if I did not. I dont see Denver putting up more than 13. And I stand by it. Last year, you actually had a strong defense, in fact I think it was your defense that was ranked #1 at that point in the season, and we went on to put 30 points on the. Now, with an older and injured defense, plus more weapons on the Ravens offense than a downtown Detroit high school, I dont think it is unreasonable to think we could score more points than we did last year.

[berad]

Games aren't played on paper. Just because one group may be more talented, experience, etc does not mean they will play better [i]THAT[/i] day. Anything can happen - look at the Patriots ST last night.

I never feel comfortable predicting a blowout. Every team is too good to be cast aside. The Broncos, especially, are a solid team with an excellent passing attack, so I don't even know where the "blowout" talk is coming from. I hope our players aren't taking this game as lightly as some of our fans.

[hawkprey]

[quote name='12and4' timestamp='1286336510' post='499912']
The more i read this thread, the more I get the feeling that you guys are very uneducated about the broncos team.


38-17 was your guess??? really... With what offense will you be scoring points like that, against which defense?

Manning and the colts scored 27 points...


we held chris johnson to 19 carries and 53 yards.

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Not that history repeats itself or anything, but early last year you guys were praised for your defense and we kinda.... blew you out. So maybe you could see how it might be hard to believe that this year our O won't put up a good amount of points.

[Jabara]

We'll give Brandon Stokley a welcome home.
Is he expected to start?

[AsianRice]

[quote name='berad' timestamp='1286337615' post='499933']
Games aren't played on paper. Just because one group may be more talented, experience, etc does not mean they will play better [i]THAT[/i] day. Anything can happen - look at the Patriots ST last night.

I never feel comfortable predicting a blowout. Every team is too good to be cast aside. The Broncos, especially, are a solid team with an excellent passing attack, so I don't even know where the "blowout" talk is coming from. I hope our players aren't taking this game as lightly as some of our fans.
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I agree with you this one. The Broncos are also #1 rush defense. They shut down Chris Johnson. It looks like we have to win through air. Besides, Rice's knee is not really 100% healthy btw.

It's a big test for our secondary this weekend.

[Orange&Blue19]

[quote name='Jabara' timestamp='1286337945' post='499940']
We'll give Brandon Stokley a welcome home.
Is he expected to start?
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He got cut, due to injury and our other WR's doing so good in preseason. loved the guy.

He is on the Seahawks now.

[flynismo]

[quote name='Orange&amp;Blue19' timestamp='1286337179' post='499924']<br />If you don't blow us out? You don't seem like the type that will take your crow, you seem like the excuse type, or if you beat us by 10, you'll consider something like that a &quot;blowout&quot;.<br /><br />No, I don't think your receivers are far better than ours, not even close. I think Boldin is the best receiver on the field. But I would take our group. D-Thomas, Eddie, Lloyd, Gaffney, Decker, Willis. I have faith in all of them and they have all been great this year (expect decker and willis, who haven't played due to depth). <br /><br />Yes, Ray Rice is better than our RB's, never said he wasn't. I said our run defense is greatly improved, and if we have held CJ and MJD in check, I have faith we can do the same.<br /><br />I like Flacco, I do. But I would definitely take Orton over him right now with how Orton is playing. Leads the #1 pass offense in the league, with no run game, so defenses know he is going to be passing, yet he still has major success. <br /><br />Your front 7 is definitely better than ours, no doubt. I would take our secondary over yours though. Even though your secondary is ranked #1, you haven't played any &quot;good&quot; passing teams yet, expect for Cincy. Your defense is better overall, yes, I give you that. <br /><br />There ya go, you have been enlightened. Now once again, I NEVER said we are going to beat you, I just don't think it will be a blowout whatsoever. I see this as being a close game in my opinion.<br />[/quote]

My my, aren't we touchy tonight?
Rest assured, I will eat crow if the Broncos prove me wrong. I dont make excuses when I'm wrong. And if the Ravens prove me right, I don't expect you to come here and eat crow.

But it is funny that you call me "biased" and "ridiculous", yet you can say with a straight face that those guys are better than our recievers. Pick one of these three recievers of our: Housh, Mason or Boldin. Anyone of those three. And I'm willing to bet that whichever one you chose has been to more Pro Bowls than the entire Denver recieving corps COMBINED. But you think your recievers are better, and I'm biased? LOL!
And, we have not one, not two, but possibly THREE guys who could start in Denver's backfield (Rice and McGahee certainly, and McClain would at least platoon with Moreno). But since you acknowledge that already, let's move on to Flacco verse Orton. I think the only fair thing to do would be to call it a wash. Flacco has played against actual defenses this year. In fact, three top 5 defenses in four weeks. And he doesn't throw 45 times a game like Orton. So something would be seriously wrong if Orton didnt have much better stats than Flacco. But switch the schedules around, we'd be having a totally different conversation there. I call it a wash.

Our front 7 is better, and you agree on that.

You think your secondary is better than ours. I think you're wrong on that count. At best, it is a wash. We'll call it a wash to be fair. But, if you insist on using the #1 ranking on offense despite the marshmallow schedule, then I'll go ahead and play the #1 pass defense to prove you wrong and our secondary is in fact much better than Denvers.

[Ed_Reed20]

Jabara, Stokley is no longer a Bronco; he's a Seahawk.

[Jabara]

[quote name='Orange&Blue19' timestamp='1286338032' post='499942']
He got cut, due to injury and our other WR's doing so good in preseason. loved the guy.

He is on the Seahawks now.
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He's lucky to still have a job, he's a fighter.

[Orange&Blue19]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1286338149' post='499944']
My my, aren't we touchy tonight?
Rest assured, I will eat crow if the Broncos prove me wrong. I dont make excuses when I'm wrong. And if the Ravens prove me right, I don't expect you to come here and eat crow.

But it is funny that you call me "biased" and "ridiculous", yet you can say with a straight face that those guys are better than our recievers. Pick one of these three recievers of our: Housh, Mason or Boldin. Anyone of those three. And I'm willing to bet that whichever one you chose has been to more Pro Bowls than the entire Denver recieving corps COMBINED. But you think your recievers are better, and I'm biased? LOL!
And, we have not one, not two, but possibly THREE guys who could start in Denver's backfield (Rice and McGahee certainly, and McClain would at least platoon with Moreno). But since you acknowledge that already, let's move on to Flacco verse Orton. I think the only fair thing to do would be to call it a wash. Flacco has played against actual defenses this year. In fact, three top 5 defenses in four weeks. And he doesn't throw 45 times a game like Orton. So something would be seriously wrong if Orton didnt have much better stats than Flacco. But switch the schedules around, we'd be having a totally different conversation there. I call it a wash.

Our front 7 is better, and you agree on that.

You think your secondary is better than ours. I think you're wrong on that count. At best, it is a wash. We'll call it a wash to be fair. But, if you insist on using the #1 ranking on offense despite the marshmallow schedule, then I'll go ahead and play the #1 pass defense to prove you wrong and our secondary is in fact much better than Denvers.
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I will be back, just like last year, I will eat my crow if we lose. Check my previous posts if you must, I was right back after we got killed last year.

Pro bowls don't mean anything to me to be honest. Its a popularity contest. We had B-Marsh last year, he is great, but we are a better WR core without him. I'd rather have a core with chemistry and football smarts than a pro bowl WR. So no, I don't think I am being biased, I just would rather have our group. They have proved it so far this year they are better, at least with the numbers, like I said you may have "better" WRs, but ours all compliment each other and the stats prove that.

Moreno isn't as bad as you think. It is our offensive line, watch some tape on our game, our RBs hit a wall right away. Rice wouldn't even do anything with the run blocking we have.

I also didn't realize that the Colts and Titans are "marshmellows". And Cleveland isn't? Plus, in 100+ degree weather, the Jags at home are tough. They proved that again this week, granted they are pretty bad, but it was brutal.

[flynismo]

[quote name='berad' timestamp='1286337615' post='499933']<br />Games aren't played on paper. Just because one group may be more talented, experience, etc does not mean they will play better <i>THAT</i> day. Anything can happen - look at the Patriots ST last night.<br /><br />I never feel comfortable predicting a blowout. Every team is too good to be cast aside. The Broncos, especially, are a solid team with an excellent passing attack, so I don't even know where the &quot;blowout&quot; talk is coming from. I hope our players aren't taking this game as lightly as some of our fans.<br />[/quote]

I know our team wont take Denver lightly, nor should they.
Which is exactly why I am so confident we will win big. Denver is a .500 team. If you haven't noticed, over the past couple years, we have a tendency to not beat, but DESTROY average teams. #1 defense or not. #1 offense or not.

Blowouts are a fact of life, they happen. No one saw it coming when the Giants blew us out a couple years ago. Some people didn't see us blowing out Denver last year (or a couple other teams). That's where the blowout talk is coming from.

[12and4]

[quote name='hawkprey' timestamp='1286337846' post='499939']
Not that history repeats itself or anything, but early last year you guys were praised for your defense and we kinda.... blew you out. So maybe you could see how it might be hard to believe that this year our O won't put up a good amount of points.
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You realize we have a new D-Coord right? part of the reason we parted ways with him was his inability to adjust... watch the dolphins late this year i predict a defensive collapse.

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1286336768' post='499920']
Well, this is a Ravens forum. We don't talk about your Broncos much here.
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Yeah and it shows. Maybe before you start writing this game off you should either not be talking about the game before the fact or actually watch a game or two...


[quote name='Ravens Beast' timestamp='1286336705' post='499917']
Obviously you're not..
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read the whole post, its pretty much full of nothingness


[quote name='berad' timestamp='1286337615' post='499933']
Games aren't played on paper. Just because one group may be more talented, experience, etc does not mean they will play better [i]THAT[/i] day. Anything can happen - look at the Patriots ST last night.

I never feel comfortable predicting a blowout. Every team is too good to be cast aside. The Broncos, especially, are a solid team with an excellent passing attack, so I don't even know where the "blowout" talk is coming from. I hope our players aren't taking this game as lightly as some of our fans.
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Yeah its hard to predict blowouts. good post... its kinda hard to blowout the #1 passing O..


[quote name='Jabara' timestamp='1286337945' post='499940']
We'll give Brandon Stokley a welcome home.
Is he expected to start?
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He was cut ... i felt that he shoulda been on the roster over willis but the coach disagreed with me, how dare he...
we put him on IR and then released him as part of a deal we made with him... he was signed by the hawks, may their season rest in peace.


[quote name='AsianRice' timestamp='1286337968' post='499941']
I agree with you this one. The Broncos are also #1 rush defense. They shut down Chris Johnson. It looks like we have to win through air. Besides, Rice's knee is not really 100% healthy btw.

It's a big test for our secondary this weekend.
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I wouldn't go and say we are #1 rush defense because we did allow MJD to achieve 98 yards, but we aren't bad... i'd say like 5-8th






Enjoy the game peeps, hopefully injury free... both our teams don't need any of that!



I just can't imagine where this team would be with a pass rush!!!! DUMERVIL, WE NEED YOU NOW MORE THAN EVER!!!!!!!!! get well soon!

[12and4]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1286338149' post='499944']
My my, aren't we touchy tonight?
Rest assured, I will eat crow if the Broncos prove me wrong. I dont make excuses when I'm wrong. And if the Ravens prove me right, I don't expect you to come here and eat crow.

But it is funny that you call me "biased" and "ridiculous", yet you can say with a straight face that those guys are better than our recievers. Pick one of these three recievers of our: Housh, Mason or Boldin. Anyone of those three. And I'm willing to bet that whichever one you chose has been to more Pro Bowls than the entire Denver recieving corps COMBINED. But you think your recievers are better, and I'm biased? LOL!
And, we have not one, not two, but possibly THREE guys who could start in Denver's backfield (Rice and McGahee certainly, and McClain would at least platoon with Moreno). But since you acknowledge that already, let's move on to Flacco verse Orton. I think the only fair thing to do would be to call it a wash. Flacco has played against actual defenses this year. In fact, three top 5 defenses in four weeks. And he doesn't throw 45 times a game like Orton. So something would be seriously wrong if Orton didnt have much better stats than Flacco. But switch the schedules around, we'd be having a totally different conversation there. I call it a wash.

Our front 7 is better, and you agree on that.

You think your secondary is better than ours. I think you're wrong on that count. At best, it is a wash. We'll call it a wash to be fair. But, if you insist on using the #1 ranking on offense despite the marshmallow schedule, then I'll go ahead and play the #1 pass defense to prove you wrong and our secondary is in fact much better than Denvers.
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dude, our receiving corps will run circles around yours... just because you got 1 or 2 good receivers, doesn't mean you have 6 or 7 good ones...


Yes boldin is great, but the combo of lloyd, gaffney, royal, beybey, decker...




oh and we played the last two games with a TE at FB....

[berad]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1286338616' post='499949']
I know our team wont take Denver lightly, nor should they.
Which is exactly why I am so confident we will win big. Denver is a .500 team. If you haven't noticed, over the past couple years, we have a tendency to not beat, but DESTROY average teams. #1 defense or not. #1 offense or not.

Blowouts are a fact of life, they happen. No one saw it coming when the Giants blew us out a couple years ago. Some people didn't see us blowing out Denver last year (or a couple other teams). That's where the blowout talk is coming from.
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Alright, you're entitled to your opinion. I won't bother trying to change it haha.

[12and4]

LOL at calling a .500 team average... are you really that ignorant???


there are i think 13 teams in the nfl at 2-2... including the colts, titans, dolphins, broncos, chargers, skins...


those teams are just average... pfft.



good judgment bro! KEEP IT UP!!!

[Jabara]

[quote name='Orange&Blue19' timestamp='1286338443' post='499948']
I will be back, just like last year, I will eat my crow if we win. Check my previous posts if you must, I was right back after we got killed last year.

Pro bowls don't mean anything to me to be honest. Its a popularity contest. We had B-Marsh last year, he is great, but we are a better WR core without him. I'd rather have a core with chemistry and football smarts than a pro bowl WR. So no, I don't think I am being biased, I just would rather have our group. They have proved it so far this year they are better, at least with the numbers, like I said you may have "better" WRs, but ours all compliment each other and the stats prove that.

Moreno isn't as bad as you think. It is our offensive line, watch some tape on our game, our RBs hit a wall right away. Rice wouldn't even do anything with the run blocking we have.

I also didn't realize that the Colts and Titans are "marshmellows". And Cleveland isn't? Plus, in 100+ degree weather, the Jags at home are tough. They proved that again this week, granted they are pretty bad, but it was brutal.
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A lot of the game could come down to can your O line protect Orton, and are our RB's healthy.
I think the Broncos will have to use less 3/4 WR sets in order to block the pass rush. What is your opinion of your TE's blocking ability?
The less your offense is in the 11, the less chance you have of throwing the ball on us. Although, the more your offense is in the 11, the more of a chance we'll get hits on Orton. The First time Orton sees Suggs or Ngata, each passing play after that, he'll be wasting an extra second or two to make sure they aren't near him.
Ngata is coming into his prime, actually it seems like he's always been in his prime, but you need to keep an eye on 92.

[berad]

Hey, hey - no insults...

The 2009 Broncos were .500. So far, they're .500 again.

[12and4]

We've already played mathis and freeney and orton didn't hesitate in the pocket one bit... I think he'll be fine




edit: sorry i wasn't clear on my other post.. i meant that he was judging the team based on their record, and not the performance...


yes we were average last year, but we showed that we can also be above average...


and i didn't mean ignorant as an insult, just couldn't find the word to describe that type of shallow prejudice

[Orange&Blue19]

[quote name='Jabara' timestamp='1286339418' post='499958']
A lot of the game could come down to can your O line protect Orton, and are our RB's healthy.
I think the Broncos will have to use less 3/4 WR sets in order to block the pass rush. What is your opinion of your TE's blocking ability?
The less your offense is in the 11, the less chance you have of throwing the ball on us. Although, the more your offense is in the 11, the more of a chance we will get to get hits on Orton. The First time Orton sees Suggs or Ngata, each passing play after that, he'll be wasting an extra second or two to make sure they aren't near him.
Ngata is coming into his prime, actually it seems like he's always been in his prime, but you need to keep an eye on 92.
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McD doesn't really use TE's. But our TE's are "blocking" TE's. We have Daniel Graham who is known for his blocking ability, Richard Quinn (who is a 2nd year who hasn't done much) is a blocker and Gronkowski who has only been a bronco 2 games, but has been playing FB for us with our FB injured.

Yes, I know, I am not underestimating your pass rush at all. I just am confident Orton will still have a pretty good day, I hope.

[Jabara]

[quote name='Orange&Blue19' timestamp='1286339613' post='499961']
McD doesn't really use TE's. But our TE's are "blocking" TE's. We have Daniel Graham who is known for his blocking ability, Richard Quinn (who is a 2nd year who hasn't done much) is a blocker and Gronkowski who has only been a bronco 2 games, but has been playing FB for us with our FB injured.

Yes, I know, I am not underestimating your pass rush at all. I just am confident Orton will still have a pretty good day, I hope.
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How is your O line playing and how many times has Orton been sacked?

[Orange&Blue19]

[quote name='Jabara' timestamp='1286339990' post='499965']
How is your O line playing and how many times has Orton been sacked?
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Absolutely awful in terms of run blocking.

Pass blocking was good the first 3 games, then this week for the 1st half, they gave up 5 sacks. I think we have allowed 11? But some are Orton just not being as "mobile" as you would like a QB to be.

Our O-line is very beat up. But when Clady, Kuper and Harris are all healthy, they are beastly, especially at pass protecting. Hopefully they are pretty healthy going up against your guys pass rush.

[XxSizzleXx]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1286338616' post='499949']
I know our team wont take Denver lightly, nor should they.
Which is exactly why I am so confident we will win big. [b]Denver is a .500 team. If you haven't noticed, over the past couple years, we have a tendency to not beat, but DESTROY average teams. #1 defense or not. #1 offense or not.[/b]

Blowouts are a fact of life, they happen. No one saw it coming when the Giants blew us out a couple years ago. Some people didn't see us blowing out Denver last year (or a couple other teams). That's where the blowout talk is coming from.
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This is the reason why I think we will put up a 30 burger on them. We like to pick on the average teams and we have tight games with playoff teams that we usually lose(in the past), but this year so far we are winning the close games. We didn't win the close games last year.

[Ed_Reed20]

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Yeah and it shows. Maybe before you start writing this game off you should either not be talking about the game before the fact or actually watch a game or two...
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I haven't written this game off. And while we don't talk about the Broncos much here, it isn't hard to find info on them. Still, if anyone wants to write this game off and is ignorant of the Broncos, that's their right. Don't come onto this forum telling people not to talk about the game just because they don't know a ton about your team.