Cam Awarded Game Ball Versus Pitt

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[quote name='FerrariFan87' timestamp='1286157124' post='497178']
I think our whole O-line deserved a game ball too. 1 sack all game against arguably the best pass-rushing team in the NFL is saying something. They don't get a higher grade from me because of our lack of a running game, although they came through on some big runs (Willis' TD to name one).
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I agree 100%. We have not had this kind of success against Pittsburgh in quite a while. Our offense "handled" these guys,,,,, in Pittsburgh for Christ sake!

Woodley and Harrison terrorized us every time we see them. Paloumalo kills us. We gave up only 1 sack the entire game and Joe had time to get the ball down field. Some of this has to do with execution, but a lot of this has to do with play calling and game planning. Cam gets the credit for that IMHO.

[BabydollFlacco5]

Joe deserved that game ball ! or else they should of gave out more then one game ball, like they did vs the Jets !

[JO_75]

[quote name='BabydollFlacco5' timestamp='1286160881' post='497314']
Joe deserved that game ball ! or else they should of gave out more then one game ball, like they did vs the Jets !
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Yeah I would have gave Joe the game ball for making the comeback he did.

[big hits and ball hawks]

I don't mind Cam getting the game ball. I've been pretty hard on him this season but this is, in my eyes, his best called game so far. Though I don't think he did terrible the first three games he just did terrific this game. I also like him getting the game ball because it would be hard to pick out one individual player on the offense to give it to because they executed so well, and I believe Cam getting the game ball is pretty much giving the offense the game ball. Though our defense should probably be rewarded something as well I think a very honorable mention and praise on this board is pretty good too. Plus they usually do good in this rivalry game but this is the first time in a long time that I've felt the offense produced a lot, though the scoreboard might not show it.

[edreedfromtheu]

[quote name='hammer' timestamp='1286150927' post='496984']
Harbs has a high football IQ. It showed by his award of the game ball to Cam Cameron today. Cam constantly hears the foolish criticism and rightfully, he ignores them.

Cam is just what Flacco needs,,, a tough, agressive, forward-thinking OC. Cam gameplans for the purpose of scoring points against whatever defense he is facing. Cams QB has to play fast and he has to play smart. If the QB can't cut it, it will show. If the QB has the touch and the balls to make the throws, that will show too.

Flacco is just now understanding that he needs good mechanics to throw the ball with touch down the middle of the field. This is the biggest difference in Joes Development this year. Boldin and Heap are making a killing in the middle seams this year. Joe couldn't make this throw in the past, but Cam has developed that in him. Joe showed me something today, but the credit goes to Cam.

Great Job today Cam, we threw the ball when the Steelers thought we were going to run, and we ran when they thought we would throw. Even though we only averaged 2.5 yards per carry, you still mixed in just enough runs to be able to gore Pittsbugh with the horns of the pass.
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You can praise Cam all you want. But if I have the running game that the Ravens do... and I need a TD to take the lead... and the ball is on the 2 yard line... I'm running the damn ball.

And I'm NEVER going to empty the backfield, and allow the Steelers Defense to already know that the play is a pass.

I'd give the game ball to the offensive line.

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[quote name='edreedfromtheu' timestamp='1286163712' post='497381']
You can praise Cam all you want. But if I have the running game that the Ravens do... and I need a TD to take the lead... and the ball is on the 2 yard line... I'm running the damn ball.

And I'm NEVER going to empty the backfield, and allow the Steelers Defense to already know that the play is a pass.

I'd give the game ball to the offensive line.
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Actually, the head coach (Harbaugh) is the one who praised Cam today. Maybe you would never empty the backfield for a play on the 2 yard line. Maybe you would be more pleased to get stuffed by a "ferel" Steelers D-line on three straight running plays, or even worse, lose yardage. Thats your opinion and nobody here desires to alter that.

Finally, the game plan and the play calling is what keeps the defense off balance. The o-line executed the game plan well, but anyway you cut it, Cam designs the game plan. Gameball - Cam!

[BloodRaven]

Lol there were at least 20 game posts calling for Cam to be fired before the TJ TD.

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[quote name='BloodRaven' timestamp='1286167235' post='497449']
Lol there were at least 20 game posts calling for Cam to be fired before the TJ TD.
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Yeah, and for an ecclectic hodge-podge of reasons. I think most were struggling with the Ravens transition from a run-first offense to a more aggresive pass-first offense. While some others were dissatisfied with Flaccos development, so they blamed Cam rather than criticize the Franchise QB.

Either way, none seemed to understand that Cam is one of the best in the business. Nor do they remember the infamous names which preceded Cam, such as; Neuheisel, Cavanaugh and Fassel.

First it was Mattison, then it became Cam. Cam deserves better and hopefully we get it.

[wayne]

[quote name='hammer' timestamp='1286156054' post='497122']
I have to agree with you on the fade plays, but only because I just don't like the fade play,,,,,ever!

Cam is never going to play it safe, thats not why they hired him. The QB is gonna have to be a stud to play for Cam.

If you want safe, then may I suggest, Neuheisal, or Cavenaugh or Fassel? [b]Oh, you say No thanks? Yeah, I kinda thought so.[/b]
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He puts too much pressure on Flacco if you ask me ( I won't say he sets him up to fail but he puts him in too many situations where he wants him to make something out of nothing regardless of the circumstances ). Even Manning, Brady, and Brees O- Coordinators help them out time and time again with their play calling and they the best in the business ( or they audible out to help themselves ). Cam neva playing safe is one of the reasons we lose alot close games and it adds to us turning the ball over putting Joe in extremely tuff situations against tuff defences at that.

Anyway, the O-line played excellent and I feel they should split the game ball 3 ways with Flacco and the O-line included . This is a extreme confidence booster right here and I also look at it this way, we have played the top defensive teams in the league so bring on anyone ( still need to see how Flacco does against 4-3 Tampa 2 teams like the Colts, thats his last test in my eyes ).

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[quote name='wayne' timestamp='1286170235' post='497488']
He puts too much pressure on Flacco if you ask me ( I won't say he sets him up to fail but he puts him in too many situations where he wants him to make something out of nothing regardless of the circumstances ). Even Manning, Brady, and Brees O- Coordinators help them out time and time again with their play calling and they the best in the business ( or they audible out to help themselves ). Cam neva playing safe is one of the reasons we lose alot close games and it adds to us turning the ball over putting Joe in extremely tuff situations against tuff defences at that.

Anyway, the O-line played excellent and I feel they should split the game ball 3 ways with Flacco and the O-line included . This is a extreme confidence booster right here and I also look at it this way, we have played the top defensive teams in the league so bring on anyone ( still need to see how Flacco does against 4-3 Tampa 2 teams like the Colts, thats his last test in my eyes ).
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In the development of greatness, there is always a period where applied pressure helps boys become men. The pressure will always produce one of two opposite results. It will produce "eustress" or produce "distress."

Eustress is a positive surge of hormonal adreneline. Eustress helps an old lady lift a car off her injured grandchild. Distress will cause the same old lady to faint instead.

Pressure will show what one you are and what you are made of. Can Joe carry the load, or is he going to faint? We found out a big part of that answer today. All because of pressure. I like it.

[wayne]

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In the development of greatness, there is always a period where applied pressure helps boys become men. The pressure will always produce one of two opposite results. It will produce "eustress" or produce "distress."

Eustress is a positive surge of hormonal adreneline. Eustress helps an old lady lift a car off her injured grandchild. Distress will cause the same old lady to faint instead.

Pressure will show what one you are and what you are made of. Can Joe carry the load, or is he going to faint? We found out a big part of that answer today. All because of pressure. I like it.
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I understand what you are saying but anything can be overdone . Gradually apply pressure to Joe, like in religion how its constantly stated, " God will neva put more on you than you can bare ", same can be said for Coaching. Pretty sure there could have been alot more successful Qbs in the league if so much pressure wasn't applied to them early on in their careers ( ummmm...... David Carr anyone for exp. ). Apply the pressure but be wise about applying it if that makes sense.

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[quote name='wayne' timestamp='1286173591' post='497536']
I understand what you are saying but anything can be overdone . Gradually apply pressure to Joe, like in religion how its constantly stated, " God will neva put more on you than you can bare ", same can be said for Coaching. Pretty sure there could have been alot more successful Qbs in the league if so much pressure wasn't applied to them early on in there careers ( ummmm...... David Carr anyone for exp. ). Apply the pressure but be wise about applying it if that makes sense.
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I get your point, but times have changed in the NFL. Rookies take up so much of the salary cap that they are under pressure to produce quicker. Their contracts are normally 4 or 5 years, so they have to be paying dividends by year 3.

And if you are lucky/unlucky enough to get drafted by a playoff bound team, then its like learning to drive for the first time, but you are in a Ferrari. Talking about pressure?

Cam let Joe drive around the parking lot in his rookie season. His second year, Cam always rode shotgun. Joes contract is up in two more years, so now, in his third year, its time to "poop or get off the pot." That's whats up in the NFL these days.

Now the other scenario is; you join a team with a losing record (David Carr). You get broken into pieces game after lousy game. Thats what happened to Peyton and Troy Aikman, but look at their careers now. David Carr just couldn't cut the mustard. No reason to shed tears for him though, because that dude got "paid in full" for his failures.

[flynismo]

[quote name='BloodRaven' timestamp='1286167235' post='497449']<br />Lol there were at least 20 game posts calling for Cam to be fired before the TJ TD.<br />[/quote]

thats why i never bother goinng on that thread. I get annoyed listening to the things some people say on there...have this thing about people who cant control their emotions.

[flynismo]

[quote name='wayne' timestamp='1286173591' post='497536']<br />I understand what you are saying but anything can be overdone . Gradually apply pressure to Joe, like in religion how its constantly stated, God will neva put more on you than you can bare[/quote]

i always found that expression amusing in it's obvious fallacies...if that were true, thousands of people would not commit suicide due to the stress in their lives. The concept is a flawed, though noble one, but people eat it up unquestioned.

[Purple Nurple]

[quote name='wayne' timestamp='1286173591' post='497536']
"God will neva put more on you than you can bare "
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The fact that God doesn't have spell check is laughable.

[wayne]

[quote name='Purple Nurple' timestamp='1286175852' post='497551']
The fact that God doesn't have spell check is laughable.
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I spelled " Never " like that on purpose , thats how I pronounce it. As far as " bare ", I spell that wrong?

[Purple Nurple]

Yeah, dude, It was a joke though, lol. Never take me seriously. Ever. Especially at this time of night. Its "bear", though in that instance. Preach on.

[wayne]

[quote name='Purple Nurple' timestamp='1286179359' post='497566']
Yeah, dude, It was a joke though, lol. Never take me seriously. Ever. Especially at this time of night. Its "bear", though in that instance. Preach on.
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Oh, my fault.