Jake Long

[Ravensfan_till_DEATH]

Dont be surprised if the ravens decide to draft Jake Long with the 8th overall pick on draft day.

With miami in rebuilding mode, Matt ryan as a franchise QB is looking more and more reasonable as a 1st overall pick for the dolphins. Dolphins need many players and many mock drafts and experts have them taking the best player available chris long. But if Bill parcells decides to rebuild a 1-15 dolphins team around QB he is most likely to draft Matt Ryan. Unless he feels "john beck" can get the job done...Ryan, Not a big time QB but a solid QB, often time compared to phillip Rivers.

The Rams really need to fill the gap on defense with a big time DT and glen dorsey seems to be a big target on their radar

with chris long potentially still being available at the 3 spot atlanta would prolly pick him up being that Matt ryan will probably not be there. And they have already addressed the RB position with Mike Turner

the raiders would be foolish not to draft darren mcfadden with this pick specially with the releasing of former maryland star lamont jordon. with justin Fargas now being the main back look for oakland to address there RB needs here with McFadden. Last Year Adrian peterson was one of their top prospect interest and with McFadden looking to be a better physical specimen then peterson i dont see how Al Davis lets this one go

Chiefs could have the final say in whether jake long lands at number 8, chiefs need to improve a shattered o-line, but with sedrick ellis still being around i wouldnt be surprised if defensive minded coach herm edwards selected huge time DT ellis at all.

Being that the jets traded away vilma and they are desperate to find the right guy to fit their 3-4 defensive scheme Vernon Gholston seems to be the best move available here, especially if McFadden and Sedrick Ellis are already taken by then

Its no surpse that the patriots somehow go 16-0 in the regular season and still wind up with the 7th overall pick...with asante samuels signing with the eagles the patriots have their eyes set on Leodis Mckelvin which is likely to be the 7th overal selection because of his great coverage skills....unless they decide to trade out of this position.

Which now brings me back to Jake Long. With JO soon to be out of B-More, telling reporters that he and the ravens have approached 08 with the mindset that he strongly may not return, also telling reporters that he told the ravens to plan 08 as tho he isnt coming back. So with our O-line now being a Pro-Bowler short and all of the ravens top prospects most likely being selected b4 the 8th pick Jake Long could actually fall into ozzies lap. Jake Long would be the perfect fit here in Baltimore replacing our LT star jonathen ogden with a soon to be uprising star Jake Long.

Jake Long had the most reps for bench press at the 08 combine workouts and really stood above the rest of the field at his position. Having a solid 40 time under 5.0 and being 300+lbs he could really be the thing that opens the holes for McGahee and gets our rushing threat solidified for the coming years.

If jake long were to be drafted the ravens would have one of the youngest o-lines in the league and also have an incredible young depth as well. which means the o-line will be good to go for the next couple of years.

jake long(OT), Yanda(LG) Brown

[Bullrush]

There is no way in hell he's goint to drop to #8. Basically every team from 1-5 needs a franchise left tackle. The Jets (6) and the Pats (7) don't but Long won't be around that long. He will be gone by pick 5 in my opinion.

[Ravensfan_till_DEATH]

There is no way in hell he's goint to drop to #8. Basically every team from 1-5 needs a franchise left tackle. The Jets (6) and the Pats (7) don't but Long won't be around that long. He will be gone by pick 5 in my opinion.

the only teams that i see drafting jake long b4 the 8th is the rams and the cheifs

and if chris long, sedrick ellis, or glen dorsey is still around by 2 i dont see how the rams take jake long over any of these 3

Cheifs need several linemen, so maybe he could go there. but again with sedrick ellis, vernon gholston, chris long, matt ryan possibly still being there at 5 i dont see how anyone can really assume jake long would be a must take pick there.

remember who the top prospects are

McFadden

Chris Long

Sedrick Elis

Vernon Gholston

Glen Dorsey

Matt ryan

all of which could EASILY be taken b4 jake long. It really would be hard to make a decision between any of these players and jake long. For the most part everyone could use another great pro bowl type linemen, but is that the most pressing need for that team? Thats who its gonna come down to...

Who has a MUST-NEED for an OT? and even tho jake long is one of the best prospects in the drafts teams might be better off overall with a McFadden, Glen Dorsey, Matt ryan than a really really good OT...

so really its not that far fetched of a concept to think that long could slip to #8. Member when matt leinart was projected to be taken as the number 1 overall pick and was projected to be the 1st qb taken out of the draft, he fell to the number 10 spot that year and Vince young went to number 3 overall...

[PuppyPuncher]

the only teams that i see drafting jake long b4 the 8th is the rams and the cheifs

and if chris long, sedrick ellis, or glen dorsey is still around by 2 i dont see how the rams take jake long over any of these 3

Cheifs need several linemen, so maybe he could go there. but again with sedrick ellis, vernon gholston, chris long, matt ryan possibly still being there at 5 i dont see how anyone can really assume jake long would be a must take pick there.

remember who the top prospects are

McFadden

Chris Long

Sedrick Elis

Vernon Gholston

Glen Dorsey

Matt ryan

all of which could EASILY be taken b4 jake long. It really would be hard to make a decision between any of these players and jake long. For the most part everyone could use another great pro bowl type linemen, but is that the most pressing need for that team? Thats who its gonna come down to...

Who has a MUST-NEED for an OT? and even tho jake long is one of the best prospects in the drafts teams might be better off overall with a McFadden, Glen Dorsey, Matt ryan than a really really good OT...

so really its not that far fetched of a concept to think that long could slip to #8. Member when matt leinart was projected to be taken as the number 1 overall pick and was projected to be the 1st qb taken out of the draft, he fell to the number 10 spot that year and Vince young went to number 3 overall...

Yeah, I agree that the Rams would probably choose Glenn Dorsey over Jake Long.

But then there's the Falcons. I think they'll jump on him when you look at Mike Smith and he's going to want a run-oriented offense.

And the Chiefs need a guy like Jake Long badly. There is Sedrick Ellis but the Chiefs already used a 2nd and 3rd pick on DT last year. Plus Carl Peterson stated that his number one mistake was letting the offensive line get old, so there is about a 90% chance he'll snatch Jake Long.

And even then, the Jets will probably be looking at Vernon Gholston, and if we assume he's taken, then they have one of the greatest offensive lines on paper with the addition of Jake Long.

So it's not impossible that Jake Long falls to us. But I'd say right now that we only have a 5% chance of it happening.

[Ravensfan_till_DEATH]

Yeah, I agree that the Rams would probably choose Glenn Dorsey over Jake Long.

But then there's the Falcons. I think they'll jump on him when you look at Mike Smith and he's going to want a run-oriented offense.

And the Chiefs need a guy like Jake Long badly. There is Sedrick Ellis but the Chiefs already used a 2nd and 3rd pick on DT last year. Plus Carl Peterson stated that his number one mistake was letting the offensive line get old, so there is about a 90% chance he'll snatch Jake Long.

And even then, the Jets will probably be looking at Vernon Gholston, and if we assume he's taken, then they have one of the greatest offensive lines on paper with the addition of Jake Long.

So it's not impossible that Jake Long falls to us. But I'd say right now that we only have a 5% chance of it happening.

lol i understand what ur sayin just one thing...chance of drafting jake long/8 teams 12.5%

now between the 4 teams that need a OT(rams, atlanta?[needs a qb and DE more than OT], the chiefs and ravens

100% chance of drating jake long divided by 4 teams...25%

Chance of jake long remaining available by the 8th pick...isnt 5% its more likely 25% which really doesnt matter i understand what ur sayin..still 75% chance of NOT getting him, but hey 1 out of 4 isnt bad odds

[Sub-Zero]

Clady has just as much upside I wouldn't be mad if we got him

[Ravensfan_till_DEATH]

Clady has just as much upside I wouldn't be mad if we got him

yeah good point, and the top 3 OT all have different upsides

clady has agility, jeff otah has size, jake long has agression and strength

but i think if it came down to ryan clady or DRC the ravens would select a cornerback, dont know if the same holds true with jake long. The ravens do have two solid tackles in gaither and terry. jake long jus seems like a sure thing and a definite starter without a question in my opinion.

[PuppyPuncher]

lol i understand what ur sayin just one thing...chance of drafting jake long/8 teams 12.5%

now between the 4 teams that need a OT(rams, atlanta?[needs a qb and DE more than OT], the chiefs and ravens

100% chance of drating jake long divided by 4 teams...25%

Chance of jake long remaining available by the 8th pick...isnt 5% its more likely 25% which really doesnt matter i understand what ur sayin..still 75% chance of NOT getting him, but hey 1 out of 4 isnt bad odds

Actually I wasn't basing it on any math at all. I just though we had about 5% chance of drafting him. I wasn't talking about probability based on availibility.

I have a feeling though that the Falcons will end up with Jake Long and then look to Andre Woodson, if the second round.

[Ravensfan23]

I don't think the Ravens would or should draft Jake Long. I don't really wanna say that Jake Long will be a bust but i feel he is slightly overrated and is no better then Jared Gaither. Yes Jake Long is big and strong at the point of attack, but so was Mike Williams, and Robert Gallery. Too many times people look at the size of these guys and think they make a great LT, or the fact that they gave up x amount of sacks in a 4 year career playing against guys that are 19-22 years of age. However what many people don't look at are the schemes and systems these guys play in. Now like i said Long is pretty good in my opinion just now as good as many think he is. Michigan slide there protection alot with left Long against DTs rather then true pass rushers. When up against speed rushers he struggles.

The reason why i don't think the Ravens will pick him is because first off i think Ozzie and Eric were more then impressed with Gaither at LT. He did a pretty good job for a guy that came to training with the Ravens when 3 months prior he was preparing for a college camp. He also did a pretty good job handling actually NFL players(not just prospects) in the preseason. If u could go back to last year around this same time Jake Long and Jared Gaither both were being consider the top OTs of this years Draft classes. I'm sure if Gaither would have been able to stay at UM he would be condsider a top OT prospect, however we were lucky enough to get him for a 5th round selection. Jake Long cost the Ravens a ton of money, not only because he will be 8th, but LTs usually get paid the most next to QBs.

So look at the situation the Ravens would be in. You have a kid in Gaither that everyone has been impressed with. He has gotten a full season of NFL experience under his belt. Not to mention he has had the opportunity to watch a HOFer in practice and games, he has had the chance to pick JO's brain. You have a guy that IMO in a couple of years will be a pro bowl caliber LT and u have him under contact for the same amount that undrafted rookies get. The would truely have to earn his big pay day. Then u have a guy that hasn't even stepped on a practice field in the NFL, he will probably be making over 20 mill, who might just be a better RT then LT, and there's no promise that he will be better then the guy he would be competing with in camp. So what happens if he can't beat Gaither out of the LT position? You have a 20 Million dollar RT.

I think we will find a nice solid OT prospect in late 2nd round or second day. Somebody like Carl Nicks, or Heath Benedict and continue to build this young athletic OLine. Slide Brown to Center, move Grubbs to LG, and Yanda to RG. The them of them would be in their natural position and that gives u a great interior line and u allow Gaither, Terry, and a rookie to battle for the 2 tackle spots.

[PuppyPuncher]

I don't think the Ravens would or should draft Jake Long. I don't really wanna say that Jake Long will be a bust but i feel he is slightly overrated and is no better then Jared Gaither. Yes Jake Long is big and strong at the point of attack, but so was Mike Williams, and Robert Gallery. Too many times people look at the size of these guys and think they make a great LT, or the fact that they gave up x amount of sacks in a 4 year career playing against guys that are 19-22 years of age. However what many people don't look at are the schemes and systems these guys play in. Now like i said Long is pretty good in my opinion just now as good as many think he is. Michigan slide there protection alot with left Long against DTs rather then true pass rushers. When up against speed rushers he struggles.

The reason why i don't think the Ravens will pick him is because first off i think Ozzie and Eric were more then impressed with Gaither at LT. He did a pretty good job for a guy that came to training with the Ravens when 3 months prior he was preparing for a college camp. He also did a pretty good job handling actually NFL players(not just prospects) in the preseason. If u could go back to last year around this same time Jake Long and Jared Gaither both were being consider the top OTs of this years Draft classes. I'm sure if Gaither would have been able to stay at UM he would be condsider a top OT prospect, however we were lucky enough to get him for a 5th round selection. Jake Long cost the Ravens a ton of money, not only because he will be 8th, but LTs usually get paid the most next to QBs.

So look at the situation the Ravens would be in. You have a kid in Gaither that everyone has been impressed with. He has gotten a full season of NFL experience under his belt. Not to mention he has had the opportunity to watch a HOFer in practice and games, he has had the chance to pick JO's brain. You have a guy that IMO in a couple of years will be a pro bowl caliber LT and u have him under contact for the same amount that undrafted rookies get. The would truely have to earn his big pay day. Then u have a guy that hasn't even stepped on a practice field in the NFL, he will probably be making over 20 mill, who might just be a better RT then LT, and there's no promise that he will be better then the guy he would be competing with in camp. So what happens if he can't beat Gaither out of the LT position? You have a 20 Million dollar RT.

I think we will find a nice solid OT prospect in late 2nd round or second day. Somebody like Carl Nicks, or Heath Benedict and continue to build this young athletic OLine. Slide Brown to Center, move Grubbs to LG, and Yanda to RG. The them of them would be in their natural position and that gives u a great interior line and u allow Gaither, Terry, and a rookie to battle for the 2 tackle spots.

Well we did hire Michigan's OL coach. So it's probable we will be running their zone-blocking scheme.

I do remember before the supplemental draft seeing Jared Gaither as one of the top prospects for this draft. But I don't think he's better than Jake Long.

I also like your new offensive line configuration but I don't understand why people don't see Marshal Yanda at right tackle?

[BAL_Hawk]

Yeah, I agree that the Rams would probably choose Glenn Dorsey over Jake Long.

But then there's the Falcons. I think they'll jump on him when you look at Mike Smith and he's going to want a run-oriented offense.

And the Chiefs need a guy like Jake Long badly. There is Sedrick Ellis but the Chiefs already used a 2nd and 3rd pick on DT last year. Plus Carl Peterson stated that his number one mistake was letting the offensive line get old, so there is about a 90% chance he'll snatch Jake Long.

And even then, the Jets will probably be looking at Vernon Gholston, and if we assume he's taken, then they have one of the greatest offensive lines on paper with the addition of Jake Long.

So it's not impossible that Jake Long falls to us. But I'd say right now that we only have a 5% chance of it happening.

There is NO chance that we will get him. He went and had dinner with the ENTIRE Ram's front office and staff. I would bet money that the Rams will take him if the Dolphins don't (and that is still a possibility).

[Ravensfan_till_DEATH]

The reason why i don't think the Ravens will pick him is because first off i think Ozzie and Eric were more then impressed with Gaither at LT.

Ok so what about adam terry? there are 2 tackles in an offensive line. Gaither would more than likely move to RT and Jake Long would be the Left, Terry is just a back up on this team and he could fill either side if asked to do so.

Jake long is the 10 year franchise type of tackle that will more than likely play his whole career with 1 team (ex..JO)

I understand you probably have your own favorite position you would like to see get drafted as we all do but If jake Long did fall to 8 no way would we pass on him. We would be foolish!! to even think about it. ESPECIALLY now that J.O. is retiring. Jake Long "IF" he fell would be a shock but a good thing for us, he is projected to go as high as top 3, miami is now considering taking him number 1 overall.

You build a franchise around the offensive line first and foremost...and when you have a chance of drafting a franchise tackle that will produce for years to come you dont pass on it for a okish QB, a positional need for that year like "CB" that can be replaced via free agency or later rounds and surely you always take the franchise OT over any DT.

Jake Long isn't just BIG, he is STRONG, FAST, AGGRESSIVE, IMPRESSIVE, ATHLETIC OH!! AND >>>STRONG!!!!<<< last but not least let me not forget to mention...HE'S STRONG!!!!

put it to ya this way....30 reps of 225 lbs is like bench pressing 500 lbs at once (half a ton)

....he did 37!

[Ravensfan23]

Ok so what about adam terry? there are 2 tackles in an offensive line. Gaither would more than likely move to RT and Jake Long would be the Left, Terry is just a back up on this team and he could fill either side if asked to do so.

Jake long is the 10 year franchise type of tackle that will more than likely play his whole career with 1 team (ex..JO)

I understand you probably have your own favorite position you would like to see get drafted as we all do but If jake Long did fall to 8 no way would we pass on him. We would be foolish!! to even think about it. ESPECIALLY now that J.O. is retiring. Jake Long "IF" he fell would be a shock but a good thing for us, he is projected to go as high as top 3, miami is now considering taking him number 1 overall.

You build a franchise around the offensive line first and foremost...and when you have a chance of drafting a franchise tackle that will produce for years to come you dont pass on it for a okish QB, a positional need for that year like "CB" that can be replaced via free agency or later rounds and surely you always take the franchise OT over any DT.

Jake Long isn't just BIG, he is STRONG, FAST, AGGRESSIVE, IMPRESSIVE, ATHLETIC OH!! AND >>>STRONG!!!!<<< last but not least let me not forget to mention...HE'S STRONG!!!!

put it to ya this way....30 reps of 225 lbs is like bench pressing 500 lbs at once (half a ton)

....he did 37!

I agree 100% that u build around the oline but you also don't just take a guy because he is strong(ex Robert Gallery Mike Williams). You have to look at a guys onfield resume not just what he put up at the combine. I don't doubt that Jake Long can be a good or even great OT, i just don't see him as a good fit for the Ravens. He will command huge dollars at the LT position and i just think he will be a better RT fit. He struggles with speed rushers and i'm just not as impressed with him as many others are.

It's nice to have a disagrement without name calling and mug slinging, just facts. Thats what makes this messageboard special. You have some great points and one of us will be right. Lets just hope that whoever is right, it works out for the best of the Ravens.

[theFRANCHISE]

I agree 100% that u build around the oline but you also don't just take a guy because he is strong(ex Robert Gallery Mike Williams). You have to look at a guys onfield resume not just what he put up at the combine. I don't doubt that Jake Long can be a good or even great OT, i just don't see him as a good fit for the Ravens. He will command huge dollars at the LT position and i just think he will be a better RT fit. He struggles with speed rushers and i'm just not as impressed with him as many others are.

It's nice to have a disagrement without name calling and mug slinging, just facts. Thats what makes this messageboard special. You have some great points and one of us will be right. Lets just hope that whoever is right, it works out for the best of the Ravens.

You took the words right out of my mouth before I even got a chance to type.

Basically, it's not that I'm against Jake Long being a Raven. But frankly, I'd feel more comfortable with the Ravens trading down in the first round to acquire more draft picks, than staying put and gambling on a player with such a high pick.

Honestly, there just isn't any one player who DEMANDS to be drafted at the 8th pick, just as there's no consensus 1st overall pick.

Because of that, I'm more inclined to either stay put and draft a corner, or trade down to draft a corner.

As you can see, yes, I'm pushing for the team to draft a cornerback, regardless of draft position in the first round. But regardless, I would be disappointed if the team stays put and drafts another position, mainly because there is no one position that truly SCREAMS "need" (other than CB and QB).

And even still, I would be disappointed if the team addressed its QB need with the 8th pick, since there's a crowded QB depth chart and it's better to take a gamble on Joe Flacco in the 2nd round and pay him 2nd round money whether or not he starts, as opposed to drafting a 1st round QB and paying him 8th-overall pick money to sit on the bench.

But back on the topic of Jake Long, although I believe it's entirely feasible that Long could fall that far to the 8th overall pick, I'm still wary just because of how good his combine numbers were.

I'm concerned he could simply be a workout warrior like Tony Mandarich. I don't take much stock in the combine other than for points of argument in support of a player, and although Long's numbers support his body of work at Michigan, I still have doubts, period.

[slugz]

jake long will get picked up by the dolphins they are already make contract talks bout it

[Corvus]

jake long will get picked up by the dolphins they are already make contract talks bout it

yeah slugz is right, i saw it last night while I was watching the Suns/Spurs game, they kept flashing on the screen that the Dolphins are in contract talks with Long's agent.

[CARavensFan]

The Dolphins are talking to Jake Long and other possible 1st overall picks, its the right of the team picking first. Besides, Parrcells could be using this talk to get other players to lower their asking price to be picked first overall; he's the type of guy who wants to have all his bases covered when he picks his player in the draft.

[neepo13]

Too many times people look at the size of these guys and think they make a great LT, or the fact that they gave up x amount of sacks in a 4 year career playing against guys that are 19-22 years of age. However what many people don't look at are the schemes and systems these guys play in. Now like i said Long is pretty good in my opinion just now as good as many think he is. Michigan slide there protection alot with left Long against DTs rather then true pass rushers. When up against speed rushers he struggles.

I think thats with every position out there. People passed up on Ray Lewis because he was to small. Thats why Drew Brees was a second round pick and people bashed the Chargers for taking him that early.

[XXl007lXX]

Apparently the Dolphins are trying to get a deal done with Long before the draft.

Read about it here:

http://www.miamiherald.com/614/story/489210.html

[Sub-Zero]

there also talking with Gholston http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/footbal...0,7093217.story

they may not end up drafting either one of them. for all we know its a bunch of smokes and mirrors teams put up to throw each other off.

[b-morebrotha]

I think there is a better chance of Mcfadden dropping to us than Long we dont need him but wed be like the jags backfield then

[Ravens_Pwn12]

not gonna fall that low

[SupaBwandin]

Jake Long is signedd =[[

The Dolphins have reached an agreement with former Michigan offensive tackle Jake Long on a five-year, $57.5 million contract that includes $30 million in guaranteed money, reports NFL Network's Adam Schefter.

[FellsPointRaven]

Here's a link: http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d...mp;confirm=true

[ragnorok99]

He's a pretty rich fish now.

[PuppyPuncher]

Parcells just made a terrible pick.

[Sub-Zero]

hopefully Clady falls on our laps.