Greisen Signs 3 Year Deal

[Ravensfan_till_DEATH]

Ravens re-signed back up linebacker Nick Greisen to a 3 year 4 million dollar deal with 1 million in guranteed signing bonuses. Also frank walker is closing his deal which should be for 2 years and 3.5 million. Samari Rolle also re-structured his contract based on his health from last year which will give incentives based on how he plays this year, but the details have not yet been released so how much it will affect the cap is still unknown. It's expected to be around 2.0 mill saved on the cap, which as a result is probably how the ravens were able to address our depth with experience and provide solid veterans that are still relatively young...Greisen(28) Walker(26)

[Bullrush]

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/footbal...story?track=rss

Greisen re-signed:

Greisen, 28, was a backup for the Ravens last season. He will sign a three-year, $4 million deal, which includes a $1 million signing bonus. Greisen had 38 tackles on defense and 13 on special teams.

Samari Rolle blub:

Notes: Restructuring his contract around conditions related to epilepsy, Rolle is now scheduled to make $1.4 million this season, which is $2.5 million less than what he was previously expected to make.

It is believed he could make his original 2008 salary of $3.9 million if he reaches his playing time incentives.

Rolle still has three years left remaining on his deal.

Hopefully we draft a corner in the 1st round so Rolle doesn't get his 4 million bucks.

[Guest Birdfan]

I'm glad to hear about Nick. I thought he showed potential last year.

[Guest Birdfan]

I certainly hope Samari is well enough and plays well enough to earn his full salary. That would be GOOD news for us.

[smashmouth]

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/footbal...story?track=rss

Greisen re-signed:

Samari Rolle blub:

Hopefully we draft a corner in the 1st round so Rolle doesn't get his 4 million bucks.

A 1st rounder wont beat out Rolle for the #2 corner spot anyhow.

[smashmouth82]

this post was about greisen and everyone's talking about rolle

[Drkraven]

I think re-signing Nick is a solid move for depth and he is a bit slow on ST, but he an play.

[Ravensfan_till_DEATH]

A 1st rounder wont beat out Rolle for the #2 corner spot anyhow.

Lets not forget samari rolle is one of the best cornerbacks in the league. He still is better than 3 quarters of the leagues starting cornerbacks. The main thing is his age and salary. eventually we're gonna have to replace him and c-mac both and sooner is better then later. We dont wanna be in a position to have to settle for a lesser CB in the future for higher $$ specially with the salary cap continuing to rise and big time contracts being offered. No one is gonna come in here and beat our rolle for the starting CB job, as long as he is healthy i dont even think ltio or hall could do so. rolle is a shutdown cornerback. people overlook him cuz we have c-mac on the other side. When he would get beat in 06 for the long play it was usually because reed gambled and didnt help him out. + our defense was still getting use to rex ryan and how things worked. As he gets older his play will decline thats why we need to address CB this year and take care of our depth so when he does leave baltimore we will have a young back that can take over immediately.

A healthy rolle next year is not something to get down about. part of being a successful team is being able to tak care of the future ahead of time. Playing-wise rolle can still perform at a high level for at least 2-3 more years with the ravens but his $$ and his health right now are the major issues.

[Bleeding Purple]

I'm glad to see someone else who thinks Rolle is still a good cornerback. I don't understand why everyone forgets that. The epilepsy causing him to miss games last year really gave a lot of people the wrong perception. It's unfortunate that it wasn't sorted out until the end of the season, but he can definitely come back and be a great corner.

[smashmouth]

I'm glad to see someone else who thinks Rolle is still a good cornerback. I don't understand why everyone forgets that. The epilepsy causing him to miss games last year really gave a lot of people the wrong perception. It's unfortunate that it wasn't sorted out until the end of the season, but he can definitely come back and be a great corner.

Almost every fan has the wrong impression, A 13-3 team went 5-11 because of injuries to alot of key players and everyone thinks its time to rebuild. The Ravens is gonna be back to the playoffs no doubt, the organization knows it was very bad luck and thats the reason there not making big changes. Rolle and C-Mac are top notch corners, Mcnair is older and cant move as well as he once did but can still win games, our recievers show flashes of being very good: Mason already has proven he is good, Only thing is we need to Improve our O-Line play, We are not gonna win games no matter who we have at QB if the O-Line cant give a couple seconds.

The Ravens is fine at every angle, this year is all about preparing for the future while our proven starters win the games, get Depth and teach all our rookies for next year or the year after because thats when there gonna be needed.

[rastaman831226]

Don't understand the "turfback" Greisen signing, teams routinely ran right at and over him after Ray was injured. Besides, he's not likely to hold the job as Ray's heir apparent for long with all the young inside and outside LB talent on this roster.

[minford]

The Ravens is gonna be back to the playoffs no doubt, the organization knows it was very bad luck and thats the reason there not making big changes.

Youre forgetting that the Browns & Steelers are good and the Bengals were better than their record, so don't count on us winning the division. Whats that you say about Wild Cards? Well, the Jags & Titans are pretty freakin decent, and the Texans are up and comers (yes, I said it- the Texans. They would've been 2nd or 3rd place in almost any other division). So I wouldn't say theres no doubt that the Ravens will be back in the playoffs.

[smashmouth]

Youre forgetting that the Browns & Steelers are good and the Bengals were better than their record, so don't count on us winning the division. Whats that you say about Wild Cards? Well, the Jags & Titans are pretty freakin decent, and the Texans are up and comers (yes, I said it- the Texans. They would've been 2nd or 3rd place in almost any other division). So I wouldn't say theres no doubt that the Ravens will be back in the playoffs.

The Ravens is the same team 2 years ago almost, we owned the steelers 57-7 in 2 games, we was 13-3.. A 5-11 record was not because our starters is not any good, its because we lack alot of talant depth wise. Besides even if we did have a really good depth at all postions, 2nd and 3rd stringers against teams 1st stringers is still not a close matchup. The Ravens had terrable luck injurie wise, i dont expect it to happen twice in a row.

What I am saying is if the Ravens stay healthy this year even with a new coaching staff almost accross the entire board, that the Ravens is still a Very good team.The Browns is not that great, and the Steelers is always good competion for the division, And until Cinci gets some defense they will not be in the running.

[Raven07]

yea i also i agree because in most cases with Injury to a player or anything relating to that kind of thing/issue. ultimately means that people will start saying this and that about the players ability to go out there and make plays, from what i've read on here from people about Rolle and his medical issue....you guys take like its a bad thing, and that he will never play good again....well i think that the simple fact that he even WANTED to come back and play for his team and teammates, says alot about the man and player he really is....and from what i saw of him even still...he was able to make plays, cover his man (for the most part) and come up with those plays.

[neepo13]

Almost every fan has the wrong impression, A 13-3 team went 5-11 because of injuries to alot of key players and everyone thinks its time to rebuild. The Ravens is gonna be back to the playoffs no doubt, the organization knows it was very bad luck and thats the reason there not making big changes. Rolle and C-Mac are top notch corners, Mcnair is older and cant move as well as he once did but can still win games, our recievers show flashes of being very good: Mason already has proven he is good, Only thing is we need to Improve our O-Line play, We are not gonna win games no matter who we have at QB if the O-Line cant give a couple seconds.

The Ravens is fine at every angle, this year is all about preparing for the future while our proven starters win the games, get Depth and teach all our rookies for next year or the year after because thats when there gonna be needed.

The fact that Billick got fired has to make you wonder where exactly this franchise is in terms of "rebuilding". I think to say that they are not rebuilding would be false but I do agree that they can still make it to the playoffs. The Ravens dont rebuild like every other team. They dont clean house and start from scratch, if the salary cap will allow it. They gradually work younger players into the starting lineup as time goes on. And we are seeing it right now because of all the injuries they had last season. I think the offensive line will improve on its own, we will have to replace J.O. if he retires but thats about it. And I am not a big fan of Pittman, Prude, and Martin but I think in the long run at least one of them will have an increased roll in the future and the other two may develop into solid backups. I think Antwaan Barnes is going to push Bart Scott to not being resigned after next season. I guess my point is just because they can still be competative doesnt mean rebuilding is not actually happening.

[Raven07]

i think that where this franchise is at this point in time as far as "re-building" is concerned...is that we're in pretty good shape, Biscotti (i think) just realized that a change needed to be done and one that could positively have an effect on the whole team and so he let Billick go and brought in Harbaugh, in which has brought new energy, new life, new excitement, new internal drive...the whole nine yards.....he's doing everything within his power to get his team back on track and get things running full speed.

[Reed_4_President]

I am not happy ONE BIT! about the signing of WALKER.... Should just keep ROLLE on like we are and DRAFT a CB....

WHAT a WASTE of MONEY!!. We should have SIGNED GREISEN to less then A 3 year deal....

[Guest Birdfan]

Would you like to explain WHY you feel that way or are you just letting off steam?

Griesen showed a lot of potential last year and I think it was smart to lock him up at a reasonable price.

Walker is not in line to replace Rolle. Walker will probably work as a nickle or dime back, two things we were woefully short on last year.

[Purple and Black Forever]

I am not happy ONE BIT! about the signing of WALKER.... Should just keep ROLLE on like we are and DRAFT a CB....

WHAT a WASTE of MONEY!!. We should have SIGNED GREISEN to less then A 3 year deal....

We signed Walker as a ST and nickel back, he is not going to replace Samari Rolle, probably Corey Ivy. Griesen is a solid backup, but being a Raven's fan you are spoiled, since you have the greatest ILB to play the game ever on your team. Greisen would more than likely be a starter on teams like the Bengals, Browns, Colts, or Bronco's.

[smashmouth]

We signed Walker as a ST and nickel back, he is not going to replace Samari Rolle, probably Corey Ivy. Griesen is a solid backup, but being a Raven's fan you are spoiled, since you have the greatest ILB to play the game ever on your team. Greisen would more than likely be a starter on teams like the Bengals, Browns, Colts, or Bronco's.

This is so true lol

[rastaman831226]

We signed Walker as a ST and nickel back, he is not going to replace Samari Rolle, probably Corey Ivy. Griesen is a solid backup, but being a Raven's fan you are spoiled, since you have the greatest ILB to play the game ever on your team. Greisen would more than likely be a starter on teams like the Bengals, Browns, Colts, or Bronco's.

Let's not fool ourselves. Griesen's not likely to break anybody's starting lineup. He didn't do it in New York or Jacksonville and he won't do it here especially with Barnes, Burgess, and Jones on the roster. And if the Ravens signed him to replace special teams leader Gary Stills, I think the FO has grossly overestimated Griesen's talent and value to the team.

[smashmouth]

Let's not fool ourselves. Griesen's not likely to break anybody's starting lineup. He didn't do it in New York or Jacksonville and he won't do it here especially with Barnes, Burgess, and Jones on the roster. And if the Ravens signed him to replace special teams leader Gary Stills, I think the FO has grossly overestimated Griesen's talent and value to the team.

What about Bart Scott when he went undrafted, and was a 2nd stringer? What about Kelly Gregg when he was a practice squad player? Just because someone dont look to be a starter right now dont mean they cant become one.

I could make a huge list of very good players being 2nd stringers and getting there chance to shine.

[rastaman831226]

What about Bart Scott when he went undrafted, and was a 2nd stringer? What about Kelly Gregg when he was a practice squad player? Just because someone dont look to be a starter right now dont mean they cant become one.

I could make a huge list of very good players being 2nd stringers and getting there chance to shine.

You could make a huge list and Greisen would not be on it. Greisen had his shot to shine when Ray went down and he was so good, they replaced him with an out of position rookie, Edgar Jones. And don't compare Greisen with either Scott or Gregg, they actually have the talent to be starters. The Ravens were better off with Dennis Haley who led special teams in tackles and turnovers last preseason.

[Corvus]

I am not happy ONE BIT! about the signing of WALKER.... Should just keep ROLLE on like we are and DRAFT a CB....

WHAT a WASTE of MONEY!!. We should have SIGNED GREISEN to less then A 3 year deal....

Walker has the stats (92 tackles, two sacks, 34 pass deflections and six interceptions over 4 years mostly as a backup) to show he can step in for McAlister and Rolle if neccessary better than any of our other corners. Corey Ivy is an alright nickel or dime back but nothing more and he is not far behind CMac and Rolle in age. Pittman only finally showed his worth in week 17 last year and the others (Martin, Prude, Gaston) didn't really do much at all when they were on the field. I am perfectly fine with the signings of Walker and Greisen. With Walker, Oz is just doing what he does best, seeing the talent in the players without big names.

I still think we will draft a corner in either the 1st or 2nd round and whoever it ends up being, along with Walker, will give us the solid depth we were lacking last year at this position.

[smashmouth]

You could make a huge list and Greisen would not be on it. Greisen had his shot to shine when Ray went down and he was so good, they replaced him with an out of position rookie, Edgar Jones. And don't compare Greisen with either Scott or Gregg, they actually have the talent to be starters. The Ravens were better off with Dennis Haley who led special teams in tackles and turnovers last preseason.

If they had the talant to start then why was Bart Scott a 2nd stringer, why was He undrafted? What about Gregg who couldent crack even a 2nd string spot until He came to Baltimore? He has the talant, He just needs some more time.

Baltimore's Defense is a "organized koas" Guys play postions out of whack and succed in it.

[Corvus]

As far as Nick goes, he had 10 tackles in Seattle, and 11 tackles in the Pittsburgh games which were the only two games he STARTED. If he had been a starter all season, you could estimate he would have upwards of around 100 tackles or so judging from those two games and 100 tackles a season is pretty good for anyone. So no, he is not going to crack the starting lineup but he is a solid "insurance policy" to fill gaps when needed and I am fine with his signing as well.

Again, Ozzie knows what he's doing with his signings and he will have a good draft for us too.

[rastaman831226]

If they had the talant to start then why was Bart Scott a 2nd stringer, why was He undrafted? What about Gregg who couldent crack even a 2nd string spot until He came to Baltimore? He has the talant, He just needs some more time.

Baltimore's Defense is a "organized koas" Guys play postions out of whack and succed in it.

Need time? Four years in New York, one year in Jacksonville and one year in Baltimore yet still no improvement. Get used to the fact that Greisen is special teams and won't progress beyond that.

[rastaman831226]

As far as Nick goes, he had 10 tackles in Seattle, and 11 tackles in the Pittsburgh games which were the only two games he STARTED. If he had been a starter all season, you could estimate he would have upwards of around 100 tackles or so judging from those two games and 100 tackles a season is pretty good for anyone. So no, he is not going to crack the starting lineup but he is a solid "insurance policy" to fill gaps when needed and I am fine with his signing as well.

Again, Ozzie knows what he's doing with his signings and he will have a good draft for us too.

Watch that game again. All his tackles were downfield and none at the line of scrimmage. Besides it was easy for Greisen to rack up stats when opposing offenses ran straight at him knowing he was the weak link in the run defense. Definitely a polluted signing by Ozzie.

[Corvus]

Well, the point of this thread is he was RE-SIGNED, so there is no point of you downplaying his abilities, whether they are good or not, if he's gonna be with us for possibly 3 more years. Obviously the team knows a lot more about what is good for them than we do.

[Raven07]

exactly.....with this signing it shows that the Ravens have the ut-most confidence in the guy to contribute to this team fully and have a positive impact on how this team overall perform's. i mean if we didnt see something in him....then why did we re-sign him? Ozzie is a very smart GM and really knows what's best for his team...so i would think for people to Trust his ability to get talent where its needed and what not.