Do You Think Jared Gaither (And His Agent) Are Being Totally Honest About His Back?

[baltravens]

Do you think Jared Gaither is being totally honest about his reported back injury?

[theFRANCHISE]

Gaither can't afford to miss too much time because he's in his contract year. Essentially, it'd bode well for him to be on the field so that he can earn his first big payday even if he doesn't intend to stay with the Ravens. By remaining sidelined with an injury, his free agent stock takes a huge hit. Teams are wary of picking up an injured offensive lineman.

[Ed_Reed20]

I think they're being honest. Reports are has a thoracic disc injury which is causing back spasms. Injuries to the spine are serious enough, add something as nagging as spasms and it isn't difficult to see why Jared hasn't played. Like Franchise said, he wouldn't be doing himself any favors by not playing either.

[Alexir]

I don't care how much you pay me but if I'm in the NFL and I have any serious Injury ESPECIALLY a back injury, I will wait til I am 100% ok to come back.

Football is a great sport, fun to play, and fun to watch, but a life shattering accident can cause you to be put into a wheel chair or a bed for the rest of your life. Nothing is worth that.

Where are all the threads calling out Ed Reed? He wanted Money but he sat out for his hip injury? Does that mean he's really on the PuP holding Out? No it doesnt, they want to make sure they are healthy enough to play and to have a normal lifestyle after football.

[kagejb]

We gotta need him for the late part of the season. Rest him up until he's a hundred percent. Do you want him for two weeks or two years?

[MagicianCamille]

He stands to gain nothing by faking a back injury. I think people are upset at him for his offseason behavior and thus are inclined to believe he is "faking it".

[CorvusCorax]

You're blowing this out of proportion. If he's wanted to get traded over to another team he would be playing. This is for real.

[berad]

People like to be dramatic...

Willis McGahee is a bum, unhappy, untalented, and should be traded
Terrell Suggs is lazy, unmotivated, and was supposed to be going to the Cardinals
Ray Lewis hates the Ravens, wants to leave, and was leaving us for the Cowboys
There are many more, but I've probably pushed them to the back of my mind

Jared Gaither is just the latest thing..

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='berad' timestamp='1285198988' post='486168']
People like to be dramatic...

Willis McGahee is a bum, unhappy, untalented, and should be traded
Terrell Suggs is lazy, unmotivated, and was supposed to be going to the Cardinals
Ray Lewis hates the Ravens, wants to leave, and was leaving us for the Cowboys
There are many more, but I've probably pushed them to the back of my mind

Jared Gaither is just the latest thing..
[/quote]
I remember a few more:

Derrick Mason is an ungrateful diva
Ed Reed cares more about money than the Ravens
Joe Flacco doesn't care about the game
Le'Ron McClain is selfish for lobbying to be the starting tailback

Hmm....

[DrMoonTooth]

I thought his agent was Drew Rosenhaus...? That was definitely the consensus amongst every one a couple of months ago...eh, maybe no one bothered to correct 20+ different users .

Anyways, I've seen back injuries like this first-hand. They are very serious and if not handled correctly could lead to paralysis. No player or agent with any sense whatsoever would fake an injury of this caliber.

[Purple Nurple]

This place is insane lately. I can't even come into Ravens Talk without getting angry.

[Shawn`]

[quote name='Purple Nurple' timestamp='1285200426' post='486180']
This place is insane lately. I can't even come into Ravens Talk without getting angry.
[/quote]

If there was a way to agree with this statement more than how much I already do, I'd do it.

[K-Dog]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' timestamp='1285199615' post='486174']
I remember a few more:

Derrick Mason is an ungrateful diva
Ed Reed cares more about money than the Ravens
Joe Flacco doesn't care about the game
Le'Ron McClain is selfish for lobbying to be the starting tailback

Hmm....
[/quote]


Poe is a steeler fan

[wolfzie06]

I wouldn't say they are lying about his injury,, that's foolish. If he wanted to get paid he'd be playing not faking injury. But there's almost no doubt in my mind that Gaither wants out of here and I would be highly surprised if he is on the team next year.

[berad]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' timestamp='1285199615' post='486174']
I remember a few more:

Derrick Mason is an ungrateful diva
Ed Reed cares more about money than the Ravens
Joe Flacco doesn't care about the game
Le'Ron McClain is selfish for lobbying to be the starting tailback

Hmm....
[/quote]

How could I forget the Reed ones?! Those are great examples.

People are quick to judge, quick to whine, but even quicker to forgive.

[CorvusCorax]

[quote name='Purple Nurple' timestamp='1285200426' post='486180']
This place is insane lately. I can't even come into Ravens Talk without getting angry.
[/quote]

It's like a day time talk show.

Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!!!

[hammer]

No, I don't believe for a minute they are being honest. J. Gaither has enough money to live the rest of his life. These athletes have super huge egos, and J. Gaithers ego was bruised by the audacity of coach to replace him with Oher.

Remember ""Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned/ Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned." Gaither is pissed and acting like a woman scorned. Get over it already.

[PuRock]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' timestamp='1285182605' post='485957']
Gaither can't afford to miss too much time because he's in his contract year. Essentially, it'd bode well for him to be on the field so that he can earn his first big payday even if he doesn't intend to stay with the Ravens. By remaining sidelined with an injury, his free agent stock takes a huge hit. Teams are wary of picking up an injured offensive lineman.
[/quote]

I agree. On the surface it's like "what is going on?" But when you think about it, the only way he will get that big contract is if he is on the field making plays during his contract year.

I really think his injury is legit, it plagued him last season as well. If it isn't legit, then it really comes down to he just doesn't have an interest in playing the sport right now. The latter would be a shame.

[beasy2487]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' timestamp='1285199615' post='486174']
I remember a few more:

Derrick Mason is an ungrateful diva
Ed Reed cares more about money than the Ravens
Joe Flacco doesn't care about the game
Le'Ron McClain is selfish for lobbying to be the starting tailback

Hmm....
[/quote]

you're forgetting the best one of all time:

edreedfromtheu: Rice isn't that special we can just start McGahee so trade him for a corner before he breaks down.



[quote name='hammer' timestamp='1285210748' post='486272']
No, I don't believe for a minute they are being honest. J. Gaither has enough money to live the rest of his life. These athletes have super huge egos, and J. Gaithers ego was bruised by the audacity of coach to replace him with Oher.

Remember ""Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned/ Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned." Gaither is pissed and acting like a woman scorned. Get over it already.
[/quote]

Gaither does not have enough money to live for the rest of his life are you kidding me?

The avg NFL player is broke within 5 yrs of retirement. Can you say "Medical Bills"? Foolishness.

[Alexir]

But Joe Flacco is a diva? Haven't you seen his gold cleats and the amount of money he drops on fur? He is the biggest diva of them all lol


Gaither will be back, Flacco will work on his problems, Cam will run the ball more. The universe will be in sync. 2012 wont happen. Calm down.

[hammer]

[quote name='beasy2487' timestamp='1285211306' post='486279']
you're forgetting the best one of all time:

edreedfromtheu: Rice isn't that special we can just start McGahee so trade him for a corner before he breaks down.





Gaither does not have enough money to live for the rest of his life are you kidding me?

The avg NFL player is broke within 5 yrs of retirement. Can you say "Medical Bills"? Foolishness.
[/quote]

1. Ralph Friedgen went public in 2007 with claims that Jared was lazy and not a hard worker. Jared was also verified to be flunking out of school and was ruled academically ineligible in 2007. So, without being judgemental, I think the hostorical facts does not support a model of work ethic.

2. Jared earned about $1.5 million over the first 3 years of his contract, plus endorsements. He is curently working on a 1 year deal for 2.5 million plus endorsements. Thats a 4 million base salary over 4 years plus whatever endorsements (normally higher than player salary). A 7% return on Jared total revenue over 4 years and jared might be set for life. Will he live like a king, no, but he's not pressed for money. IMO

[beasy2487]

[quote name='hammer' timestamp='1285213548' post='486305']
1. Ralph Friedgen went public in 2007 with claims that Jared was lazy and not a hard worker. Jared was also verified to be flunking out of school and was ruled academically ineligible in 2007. So, without being judgemental, I think the hostorical facts does not support a model of work ethic.

2. Jared earned about $1.5 million over the first 3 years of his contract, plus endorsements. He is curently working on a 1 year deal for 2.5 million plus endorsements. Thats a 4 million base salary over 4 years plus whatever endorsements (normally higher than player salary). A 7% return on Jared total revenue over 4 years and jared might be set for life. Will he live like a king, no, but he's not pressed for money. IMO
[/quote]

Poor work ethic? Sure. What does that have to do with faking a back injury out of spite and dismantling your hopes of earning MORE money?

What are you saying? He doesn't want to play so he's faking? I'm lost.

As far as the money is concerned: Gaither is in his mid-20s, I guarantee you if he quit football today that money wouldn't see 30. Or are you telling me that a guy who couldn't keep a 2.0 is moonlighting as a daytrader while he nurses his non-back injury? I wouldn't be surprised if more than half of that 4 mil (which after taxes is more like 2.6 mil) is gone already.

Is this highly disappointing? Yes. Is this back injury probably a result of Gaither not taking diligent care of his physical health year round (read: Poor work ethic)? Likely. Is it some kind of ill-conceived conspiracy? Doubtful. Is this the exact reason why we drafted Michael Oher? Definitely.

[ravensfan160]

[quote name='beasy2487' timestamp='1285216326' post='486339']
What are you saying? He doesn't want to play so he's faking? I'm lost.
[/quote]
We know he's not faking the injury. They ran a test and confirmed it. But as he said, Jared has a history of being somewhat lazy. In this case, laziness means he's not working his tail off to get back on the field as soon as humanily possible. I'm convinced of that.

And yes, he is looking for a big time paycheck after this year, so a lot like Revis, Vincent Jackson, and the SD LT, he doesn't want to get hurt. He may not be holding out but he's going to milk this as long as he can. Less time he's one the field means less chance of injury. Remember, unlike the aforementioned guys, Jared is still getting paid.

Harbaugh said in an interview that the injury was supposed to be 2-6 weeks. We are at 6 weeks already and he's still not ready. The doctors could be wrong, but all things considered it seems fishy to me.

[berad]

Just so everyone knows, Gaither played through a serious shoulder injury in 2008 and rehabbed tirelessly to get back from a very threatening neck injury in 2009, just to get back on the field. This injury could be a bigger deal than the team is letting on.

I'm going to side with the big guy and call all this speculation [b]foolish[/b]. We'll find out soon enough what it really is and how he'll come back from it, once he's better.

[BloodRaven]

[quote name='berad' timestamp='1285217375' post='486347']
Just so everyone knows, Gaither played through a serious shoulder injury in 2008 and rehabbed tirelessly to get back from a very threatening neck injury in 2009, just to get back on the field. This injury could be a bigger deal than the team is letting on.

I'm going to side with the big guy and call all this speculation [b]foolish[/b]. We'll find out soon enough what it really is and how he'll come back from it, once he's better.
[/quote]

I agree, as a potential marquee free agent tackle he has a lot to lose by missing games.

[Ravenseconbeast]

I really don't understand this topic.

You probably wanted to make the topic say "Lets get rid of Gaither", unfortunately you couldn't.

So far from what I've viewed from last season, he was a solid LT (gave Ray Rice bunch of holes for him to get through on critical plays, blocked the best of the league...remember last year was a tough season), and overall with Oher as RT, and Gaither as LT we had a very successful running o-line.

I'd love to see him around in Ravens this season. Considering our LT/RT position is shaky atm. I want to see what he cant do. But you can go ahead and constantly bash him. Thanks.

[hammer]

[quote name='beasy2487' timestamp='1285216326' post='486339']
Poor work ethic? Sure. What does that have to do with faking a back injury out of spite and dismantling your hopes of earning MORE money?

[size="5"][b]I say he's just pissed and just wants to hurt his antagonists (Harbaugh/Cam) back.[/b][/size][size="5"][/size]

As far as the money is concerned: Gaither is in his mid-20s, I guarantee you if he quit football today that money wouldn't see 30.

[b]If you take a 4 million base (-) taxes (+) endorsements, I could speculate that you are still at 4 million in assets. If your investment plan yields 7% then your annual dividend would amount to $280,000 per year. You could love off the dividends ($280,000) and still have 4 million in the bank - for the rest of your life - theoretically.[/b]

Is this the exact reason why we drafted Michael Oher? [b]Definitely.[/b][/quote]

[b]Finally, please let me say that Jared has a right to do whatever he desired, even if he is faking. It's his life, his body, his money and his choice.[/b]

[PSU RAVEN]

[quote name='ravensfan160' timestamp='1285217033' post='486343']
We know he's not faking the injury. They ran a test and confirmed it. But as he said, Jared has a history of being somewhat lazy. In this case, laziness means he's not working his tail off to get back on the field as soon as humanily possible. I'm convinced of that.

And yes, he is looking for a big time paycheck after this year, so a lot like Revis, Vincent Jackson, and the SD LT, he doesn't want to get hurt. He may not be holding out but he's going to milk this as long as he can. Less time he's one the field means less chance of injury. Remember, unlike the aforementioned guys, Jared is still getting paid.

Harbaugh said in an interview that the injury was supposed to be 2-6 weeks. We are at 6 weeks already and he's still not ready. The doctors could be wrong, but all things considered it seems fishy to me.
[/quote]
Last year he was the left tackle. He reportedly was pi$$ed that he was going to be moved to RT, as left tackles makes far more money in free agency.

As to the advantages to not playing? here are a few;
1) Still gets paid the same this year.
2) Avoids injury while heading into free agency as the most sought after lineman in the market (whether he plays this year or not).
3)Sticks it to the people that he feels dissed him.

[PSU RAVEN]

Since the line was fantastic last year with Gaither at LT and Oher at RT why exactly did they HAVE to move Oher to LT? Is it b/c of the name of that book/movie?

From what I saw there was no on the field reason to do it.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='PSU RAVEN' timestamp='1285359252' post='487215']
Since the line was fantastic last year with Gaither at LT and Oher at RT why exactly did they HAVE to move Oher to LT? Is it b/c of the name of that book/movie?

From what I saw there was no on the field reason to do it.
[/quote]

Oher played LT at Ole Miss and was solid filling in for Gaither when he went down last year.