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Get Mike Vick Next Year

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[quote name='flaccopoe' timestamp='1285097504' post='485158']
Lol. Vick's not even that good, in all seriousness. He has less experience than Flacco. Anyway, I think that Joe will learn and grow from his mistakes to become one of the NFL's better QBs. Besides, it would disrupt team dynamics. We already have a new guy, Houshmendzadeh.
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Flacco has more experience than Vick, care to explain? You do know that Vick is a 3time pro-bowler.


NOTE AGAIN...original post was a joke.
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[quote name='757RavensFan' timestamp='1285172267' post='485829']
Flacco has more experience than Vick, care to explain? You do know that Vick is a 3time pro-bowler.
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Less [i]recent[/i] experience, maybe? Vick is still basically just coming off of an, er, extended absence.
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[quote name='757RavensFan' timestamp='1285172267' post='485829']
Flacco has more experience than Vick, care to explain? You do know that Vick is a 3time pro-bowler.


NOTE AGAIN...original post was a joke.
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I highly doubt it was a joke, hence the "Yes, I'm serious"

I think you meant it, realized that it was a VERY unpopular idea and then dismissed it as a sarcastic comment.
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I can't imagine anyone ever honestly thinking this WOULD be a good idea; thus I'm pretty willing to accept that this was a excellently timed but poorly executed joke.
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[quote name='Shawn`' timestamp='1285199496' post='486173']
I highly doubt it was a joke, hence the "Yes, I'm serious"

I think you meant it, realized that it was a VERY unpopular idea and then dismissed it as a sarcastic comment.
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What this guy said.......
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[quote name='757RavensFan' timestamp='1284989505' post='483477']
Joe's contract is up this year. Go after Vick.
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[quote name='thewarden86' timestamp='1285204730' post='486223']
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my thoughts exactly lol
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[quote name='757RavensFan' timestamp='1284989505' post='483477']
Joe's contract is up this year. Go after Vick.
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No... Wait... HELL NO!
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We should get Vick just so that every time we play the Browns he will get in their heads and make the dog pound fight each other.....it's a great strategy.

We would go from Dungeons & Dragons (flacco) to someone who has actually been in something that was a Dungeon while the media would "drag on" about his offense.
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[quote name='JonM229' timestamp='1285214540' post='486323']
Worst thread idea ever
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Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

You're ruining my fun.

:popcorn drama:
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[quote name='thewarden86' timestamp='1285204730' post='486223']
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Is this someone gauging out Flacco's eyes after his fourth INT?
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[quote name='RivenHale' timestamp='1285299907' post='486875']
It's the face I make every time a new "bench Joe" post is made.
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Joe is Bad. Its that simple. Over the last 4 games, even Manning would have been benched with play like that. He is not a come from behind QB who can run the 2 min and win the game. He is a game manager , its that simple.

80% of people on this site know nothing about football besides what they hear on sportscenter or see in a MADDEN game, or they are so infatuated with the ravens, they say they are infailable. Joe has so many flaws in both his fundementals and his decision making abilty it makes me laugh when people blindly defend him. How about you try and be objective. Just beacuse you belive it, doesnt make it true.

Vick would be a proven upgrade who is still young (30) and brings another dynamic to the game. He is not a overplayed QB (rested since 2006) who is a proven winner. He is about as much of a criminal as Ray Lewis or Jamal lewis is, if you even consider what they did to be a crime against society. He is hungry and wants to EARN back what was lost from stupid decisions. I am not saying throw the checkbook at him but to say its a joke to consider it, is laughable. At the end of the day, the FO needs to put the best product on the field that has the highest probability of winning. Vick would without a doubt be a greater asset to this team then Mr. Flacco.
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I'm not gonna argue with you, because arguing on the Internet is just about as wasteful as you can be with your time without actively sawing off your own limbs. I'm just gonna say that if you read my posts, you'll see that I've never been a starry-eyed Flacco fanboy. I admit he has faults. Frankly, we all do - that's indisputable.

But honestly, giving up on him after two games doesn't make you smarter than the rest of us, or some kind of misunderstood football guru. It just means that you don't have any faith in a guy who's been nothing but good for us for the past two years. That's just [i]wrong[/i].



EDIT: Also, now that someone's taking this thread seriously and considering the idea, I'm going to have to throw my two cents in: I'd start Bulger WAY before I start Vick. (Mind - I'm still standing up for Flacco; I'm just saying that if we go after Vick, we're out of our collective minds.)
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How is he a proven upgrade? He's led his team to the playoffs twice. So has Joe. He is an acomplished runner, but that is about the only place where he is a "Definite" upgrade.

Tested positive for marijuana use. Character issues. Enough said.

Has never thrown for over 3000 yards in the NFL. Joe has done it already, in his 2nd year. Seeing as this league has become more pass first, I would say this is a definite plus in Flacco's favor.

For someone who "laughs" at 80% of the forum members for their apparent lack of football knowledge, you display an almost glaring inability to judge talent.
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[quote name='nk02442' timestamp='1285341126' post='487060']
Joe is Bad. Its that simple. Over the last 4 games, even Manning would have been benched with play like that. He is not a come from behind QB who can run the 2 min and win the game. He is a game manager , its that simple.

80% of people on this site know nothing about football besides what they hear on sportscenter or see in a MADDEN game, or they are so infatuated with the ravens, they say they are infailable. Joe has so many flaws in both his fundementals and his decision making abilty it makes me laugh when people blindly defend him. How about you try and be objective. Just beacuse you belive it, doesnt make it true.

Vick would be a proven upgrade who is still young (30) and brings another dynamic to the game. He is not a overplayed QB (rested since 2006) who is a proven winner. He is about as much of a criminal as Ray Lewis or Jamal lewis is, if you even consider what they did to be a crime against society. He is hungry and wants to EARN back what was lost from stupid decisions. I am not saying throw the checkbook at him but to say its a joke to consider it, is laughable. At the end of the day, the FO needs to put the best product on the field that has the highest probability of winning. Vick would without a doubt be a greater asset to this team then Mr. Flacco.
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If you know so much about football why are you posting on here instead of working in a front office making personnel decisions or coaching?

Bluntly calling Joe bad is a silly comment. If every Quarterback that hit a slump was benched Quarterback turn-over in the NFL would be rediculous.
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[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1284994507' post='483622']
As lackluster as Joe has been this year, we would never go after Michael Vick.

A. Harbaugh loves character over anything else.
B. Harbaugh has a dog house, he doesn't need Vick having people fight in it.
C. Left handed QB's are gross to watch.
D. No.
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Not that I don't agree with you, but what makes left handed QB's gross to watch?
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JEEP's quote up there made me think of something. Just as a test, try this: for an entire day, complain about Joe as much as you want to yourself, your friends, your mirror; whoever you complain to. But instead of saying "this year", say "two weeks". Try it.

"As lackluster as Joe has been this year...." sounds like a genuine cause for concern. Joe's been bad all [i]year[/i]? Oh my God!

But try this: "As lackluster as Joe has been these past two weeks...."

Doesn't sound so bad, does it? Means the same thing. This year has lasted two weeks. Two. Weeks. Michael Vick is not the answer. Marc Bulger is not the answer. Joe Flacco is STILL the answer.
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[quote name='Clutch Ravens' timestamp='1285362609' post='487262']
If you know so much about football why are you posting on here instead of working in a front office making personnel decisions or coaching?

Bluntly calling Joe bad is a silly comment. If every Quarterback that hit a slump was benched Quarterback turn-over in the NFL would be rediculous.
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QB turnover in the league is already ridiculous this season; there's never been more QB changes this time of year than at any other point in NFL history. Oakland, Carolina, Buffalo, Philadelphia, Detroit, Cleveland, and Pittsburgh are all going through QB woes. Granted, some of them are due to injury, but only Detroit and Pittsburgh were reasonably comfortable with their Week 1 starters before being forced to make a change. That's a decent percentage of the league, and that number could grow if teams like San Francisco, Minnesota, Tennessee, Denver, and Jacksonville, among others, continue to have issues under center.
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[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1284991267' post='483539']
I'll take a quality JOE over a revolving door of aging QBs anyday. Some people might not.

Is he Peyton, Brady, Brees, hell no. Is he better than Garrard, Alex Smith, Jason Campbell, Trent Edwards, Josh Freeman, Matt Moore, Chad Henne, Vince Young. I'd have to say yes.

Joe still has some progression room left as well.
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Put it perfectly. Flacco may not be the greatest QB in the nfl right now but he is pretty darn good, he will get the job done.
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is this fantasy football?
vick played two games this season, let's see what he does next.
i think bulger is better than vick anyway.
and joe is younger, taller and more promissing than both of them.
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No,
I love dogs amd if he was a RAVEN I would have a hard time being a RAVEN fan.
I dont think i could wish him well.
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[quote name='nk02442' timestamp='1285341126' post='487060']
Joe is Bad. Its that simple. Over the last 4 games, e[b]ven Manning would have been benched with play like that.[/b] He is not a come from behind QB who can run the 2 min and win the game. He is a game manager , its that simple.

[b] 80% of people on this site know nothing about football besides what they hear on sportscenter or see in a MADDEN game[/b], or they are so infatuated with the ravens, they say they are infailable. Joe has so many flaws in both his fundementals and his decision making abilty it makes me laugh when people blindly defend him. How about you try and be objective. Just beacuse you belive it, doesnt make it true.

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Really? Manning would've been benched? Why wasn't he benched his rookie year when he threw 28 interceptions? Or even in his fourth year when he threw 23 INTs?

also, where exactly did you get that statistic from? You just made it up, is the correct answer.

Please, actually do some research before you make senseless posts and please don't just throw out random numbers just because you feel a certain way about people on this board.
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wow, one bad week and all hell breaks loose. Vick is not the answer for the Ravens. Flacco will be fine, a good case of the "Browns" this weeks will cure him just fine.
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