53-Man-Squad

[Bullrush]

Update: 09/01/07

We are set.

QB S. McNair

QB K. Boller

QB T. Smith

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QB D. Olson

QB C. Finnerty

RB W. McGahee

RB M. Anderson

RB M. Smith

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RB C. Ross

RB G. Pruitt

FB L. McClain

FB J. Green

WR M. Clayton

WR D. Mason

WR D. Williams

WR Y. Figurs

WR D. Darling

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WR C. Moore

WR R. Bryant

WR D. Linson

WR M. Willis

TE T. Heap

TE Q. Sypniewski

TE D. Wilcox

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TE K. Ballantyne

TE M. Freeman

TE R. Abiamiri

OT J. Ogden

OT A. Terry

OT J. Gaither

OT M. Yanda

OT M. Kracalik

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OT C. Pino

OG J. Brown

OG B. Grubbs

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OG I. Ndukwe

OG B. Rimpf

OG K. Vincent

OC C. Chester

OC M. Flynn

DE T. Suggs

DE T. Pryce

DE A. Barnes

DE G. Stills

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DE T. Leitko

DE B. Swancutt

DT H. Ngata

DT K. Gregg

DT J. Bannan

DT D. Edwards

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DT A. Ellison

DT K. King

DT K. Marshall

DT L. Wilson

DT A. Powell

DT A. Bryant

OLB B. Scott

OLB J. Johnson

OLB D. Haley

OLB E. Jones

OLB J. Cottrell

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OLB R. Riddle

OLB J. Enzor

MLB R. Lewis

MLB P. Burgess

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MLB J. Martin

CB C. McAlister

CB S. Rolle

CB C. Ivy

CB D. Pittman

CB D. Martin

CB B.J. Sams

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CB I. Oglesby

CB W. Gaston

CB T. Maze

S E. Reed

S D. Landry

S G. Sapp

S R. Prude

S J. Winborne

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S D. Johnson

S B. Blackshire

K M. Stover

K R. Lloyd

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K B. Carney

K J. Wilhoit

P S. Koch

LS M. Katula

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LS N. Leeson

PUP:

DE/OLB D. Cody (Knee)

MLB M. Smith (Shoulder)

IR:

RB P.J. Daniels (Hamstring)

[berad]

I agree

except, take out Burgess and Moore

and add in Anderson and Sams

[MsMarvel73]

I think Mike Anderson will get the axe

Cut Mike Anderson when Willis McGahee hasn't even run a down for the Ravens yet? Please.

[Bullrush]

McGahee is not a rookie. Besides, Musa Smith was already our backup RB last season.

[Bullrush]

I agree

except, take out Burgess and Moore

and add in Anderson and Sams

Well we can't keep Figurs and Sams. Burgess is probably a candidate for the practice squad.

[Dont Know]

I don't think they are going to go into the season without Mike Andersson and with only 3 RBs. Remember the 2001 season when J. Lewis went down? I think they learned a lesson that season.

Some of the young developing players will develop season-ending "injuries" between now and the final roster cut, just a hunch.

[Guest Birdfan]

I fully expect both Figurs and Sams to be on the roster to start the season. If we have a need to sign another player later on, one of them may get cut, demoted, or have a season-ending 'injury'.

[berad]

Well we can't keep Figurs and Sams. Burgess is probably a candidate for the practice squad.

we can't?

I think we can

that would be great for our return game

[Bullrush]

we can't?

I think we can

that would be great for our return game

I see. So while Figurs returns kicks and punts, Sams will just sit there and do nothing at all.

[Guest Birdfan]

Or Sams will return punts and both Figurs and Sams will be back for kicks. Figurs will also play a little offense if we go 4 wide or something. He may also backup the slot.

[Ed_Reed20]

I really don't understand why the Ravens should keep BJ Sams. Yamon Figurs hasn't even returned a punt for the Ravens yet but he's definitely faster and probably more elusive than Sams. As for kick returns, I think Musa Smith would do pretty well. He has enough speed to consistently get at least 20 yards on a return, he's big enough to break a few tackles for extra yardage.

I think the Ravens should cut David Pittman if he doesn't make an impact. He was signed to become the nickelback but he didn't play at last year and is probably 4th on the depth chart behind Ivy, Prude and Oglesby. I personally like Oglesby because he's a great gunner but neither he nor Prude and Ivyshould be playing nickel.

[Mahatma_Sloth]

i think its a toss up between Oglesby and Martin and untested P.J. over Anderson, a relativly cheap vetren multipule 1,000 yrd up the middle 3rd dwn bruser whom can also play FB, i dont know about that.... last i checked were tryin to win a superbowl..... im also puting Cory Ross on practice squad takin away Olson and puting Finnerty on (or keepin both if i can. I dont know the rules for P.S but it would be nice to see those two battle it out to stay on the team)

[Mahatma_Sloth]

i wonder what kind of value we can get for Flynn? it almost seems like hes dead weight cause of age plus we have 2 youger quicker guys whom are able to switch between gaurd and center in Chester & Brown..... What do u think?

[berad]

I see. So while Figurs returns kicks and punts, Sams will just sit there and do nothing at all.

Sams is better at KR than Figurs.

Figurs is better at PR than Sams.

Very simple.

And we rely on our Special Teams for our Offense to be effective.

[Guest Birdfan]

We haven't seen Figurs in an actual game, yet. Let's not annoint him until we see what he can do on the field. Sams did an excellent job returning punts last year. We missed him badly at the end of the season and paid for it with poor field position.

[MsMarvel73]

McGahee is not a rookie. Besides, Musa Smith was already our backup RB last season.

True but Musa doesn't have a good injury history unfortunately. I think getting cutting Anderson would be a mistake.

[Bullrush]

Sams is better at KR than Figurs.

Figurs is better at PR than Sams.

Very simple.

And we rely on our Special Teams for our Offense to be effective.

That's not going to happen. You can't waste two roster spots on kick- and punt returners. Look around the league, most kick- and punt returners can play two positions (Special Teams + RB/WR/CB), because that way you can activate another OT, LB or something else.

[Bullrush]

True but Musa doesn't have a good injury history unfortunately. I think getting cutting Anderson would be a mistake.

It would be a gamble, but i hope/think Smith stays healthy.

[berad]

That's not going to happen. You can't waste two roster spots on kick- and punt returners. Look around the league, most kick- and punt returners can play two positions (Special Teams + RB/WR/CB), because that way you can activate another OT, LB or something else.

Yamon has the potential to be a good WR.

He also plays on the other side of Special Teams, as a gunner.

[MsMarvel73]

It would be a gamble, but i hope/think Smith stays healthy.

We all hope so but there's no guarantees. I still think cutting Anderson would be a bad idea.

[Ravensfan23]

That's not going to happen. You can't waste two roster spots on kick- and punt returners. Look around the league, most kick- and punt returners can play two positions (Special Teams + RB/WR/CB), because that way you can activate another OT, LB or something else.

What is he difference between having cory Ross and BJ Sams, opposed to having Sams and Figurs, Figurs will see at least 1 or 2 snaps a game at the WR position. Weather that be a reverse or quick screen, so his roster spot will not be wasted. Also making the 53 man rosters doesn't ensure you a spot on the 45 man gameday roster. Sams is the return man until proven otherwise. If figurs can push sams and prove to be that electric returner that so many view him as then u can expect to see plenty of 2 man returns. Much like Sams and Deion from 2 seasons ago.

[Bullrush]

The difference is that Ross made the team so he can be our no.2 returner. We activated him when Sams got hurt. You can't compare Ross/Sams to Figurs/Sams. We drafted Figurs fairly high because of his return skills and his playmaking ability. We did not draft him to back up Sams. And Sams won't back Figurs up either, he's too good of a returner to back some guy up.

However, if Figurs struggles in training camp, if he struggles in the preseason as well, Sams will very likely make our team and return kicks and punts for us during the regular season, until Figurs steps up.

Besides, our roster is much deeper this year than it was last year. We now have a no.3 QB and 3 or even 4 more guards and tackles that will make our squad. Guys that didn't/couldn't make it last year. PJ Daniels will have to step up as well, and then you look at all the other draft picks (2 more linebackers). Plus, last year we lost a lot of good players (to FA etc.). Guys like Demps, Taylor, Kemo, Weaver, Chad Williams, Polley, Deion...so it was a lot easier to make the team. The only good player we lost this year was AD.

[berad]

We drafted Figurs so we could have 2 explosive returners.

Also, if he can develop, Figurs could be a great WR.

Figurs WAS drafted as a backup plan for Sams.

Both for his injury and his DUI's (which have been dropped)

[Bullrush]

I'm pretty sure they drafted Figurs to take over at KR/PR. They (Ozzie & co.) mentioned Hester's name all the time, they compared him to Hester and they even mentioned that Figurs "killed" Hester in a 40yd race. Why did we draft this guy, who can't even play WR, in the 3rd round if not for becoming our top return guy? That's just my opinion but we will see i guess. Besides the league will probably suspend Sams for 4 games, or am i wrong? This was the 2nd time he got busted and the league hasn't done anything yet.

[Mista T]

Besides the league will probably suspend Sams for 4 games, or am i wrong? This was the 2nd time he got busted and the league hasn't done anything yet.

Sams was "busted" for an illegal lane change. Not only will he not face a suspension .... it's doubtful that the League would waste 5 minutes on a minor traffic violation.

[berad]

I'm pretty sure they drafted Figurs to take over at KR/PR. They (Ozzie & co.) mentioned Hester's name all the time, they compared him to Hester and they even mentioned that Figurs "killed" Hester in a 40yd race. Why did we draft this guy, who can't even play WR, in the 3rd round if not for becoming our top return guy? That's just my opinion but we will see i guess. Besides the league will probably suspend Sams for 4 games, or am i wrong? This was the 2nd time he got busted and the league hasn't done anything yet.

Sams DUIs have been dropped.

I'm sure, like I said, they drafted Yamon to be another good returner on the team

we saw what happened when we only had one, and he went down.

Say goodbye to our field position

[Ed_Reed20]

The Ravens need to cut Corey Ross. He's slow, fat and isn't elusive at all. Right now, he's really just taking up a roster spot that could be used on something else. There are other positions that the Ravens need to add quality depth at like WR, DT, CB, S.

[berad]

We have depth at WR, DT, and CB

[akacrow]

About 35 players (we're at 87 right now) will get cut during training camp. Who will make it? And what about the surprise cuts? I think Mike Anderson will get the axe, as well as B.J. Sams and Devard Darling. Maybe "even" (he would be the first one i would cut) Moore but his size will probably keep him in Baltimore for the next 10+ years.

Anderson is just way too expensive for a guy that averages only 2 carries per game. Sams will lose his job as a KR/PR to Figurs and Darling/Moore will lose his job at WR to Figurs as well. QB Olsen, CB Martin and OT Kracalik are all candidates for the practice squad.

35 players will not be cut, S.T, some will be on the P.S. ,some will be on I.R.

QB S. McNair

QB K. Boller

QB T. Smith

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QB D. Olson

QB C. Finnerty

I agree, Olsen and Finnerty should be on the P.S. If one has to go I would prefer it being Olsen

RB W. McGahee

RB M. Smith

RB P.J. Daniels

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RB M. Anderson

RB C. Ross

RB G. Pruitt

There is no way M.A. is cut, Daniels, Ross, Pruitt out of these three I see Ross getting cut, Pruitt to the P.S.

FB L. McClain

FB J. Green

I agree

WR M. Clayton

WR D. Williams

WR D. Mason

WR Y. Figurs

WR C. Moore

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WR D. Darling

WR R. Bryant

WR D. Linson

WR M. Willis

I agree with the first three, Moore could lose his position to one of the 4 listed as cuts, Figurs has not earned the #4 spot. I am hopeing he will be our #3 after Mason retires...

TE T. Heap

TE Q. Sypniewski

TE D. Wilcox

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TE R. Abiamiri

TE K. Ballantyne

TE M. Freeman

I agree, Ballantyne may make the roster or be placed on the PS along with Abiamiri

OT J. Ogden

OT A. Terry

OT M. Yanda

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OT M. Kracalik

OT C. Pino

I agree, Kracalik will be on the P.S. we are too thin at OT

OG J. Brown

OG B. Grubbs

OG K. Vincent

OG B. Rimpf

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OG I. Ndukwe

OG S. Edwards

This one is tough, Vincent is too high priced for a backup, Rimpf might lose out to Ndukwe

OC C. Chester

OC M. Flynn

I agree

DE T. Suggs

DE T. Pryce

DE A. Barnes

DE G. Stills

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DE T. Leitko

I agree, except Barnes is an OLB.

DT H. Ngata

DT K. Gregg

DT J. Bannan

DT D. Edwards

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DT A. Ellison

DT K. King

DT K. Marshall

DT L. Wilson

DT A. Powell

Another tough situation IMO some of your cuts will make the P.S.

OLB B. Scott

OLB J. Johnson

OLB D. Cody

OLB D. Haley

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OLB J. Cottrell

OLB E. Jones

You forgot A. Barnes...

MLB R. Lewis

MLB M. Smith

MLB P. Burgess

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MLB J. Martin

I agree

CB C. McAlister

CB S. Rolle

CB C. Ivy

CB R. Prude

CB D. Pittman

CB I. Oglesby

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CB D. Martin

CB B.J. Sams

CB T. Maze

CB W. Gaston

B.J. Sams will not be cut he is a game changing R.S. he can PR while Figures takes KR...If Figures makes #4 receiver, Sams should take most if not all of the return duties.

S E. Reed

S D. Landry

S G. Sapp

S B. Blackshire

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S J. Winborne

S D. Johnson

I Agree, except D. Johnson could see time as a RS, Will be on the P.S.

K M. Stover

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K B. Carney

K J. Wilhoit

We should be stocking our P.S. with Kickers, Stover will be retiring sooner then later...

P S. Koch

LS M. Katula

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LS N. Leeson

Leeson will make the P.S. he is a first class long snapper...

[Bullrush]

35 players will not be cut, S.T, some will be on the P.S. ,some will be on I.R.

We can't have more than 53 players under contract, so right now we will have to get rid of ~35 players. We can have 8 (?) players on our practice squad but first we will have to get rid of them.

I agree, Olsen and Finnerty should be on the P.S. If one has to go I would prefer it being Olsen

Agreed. Olsen was already on the PS last year and he will probably make it again. Could develope into a solid backup in a few years.

There is no way M.A. is cut, Daniels, Ross, Pruitt out of these three I see Ross getting cut, Pruitt to the P.S.

Just my opinion, but should get rid of him. He's whining around all the time and he makes way too much money for a guy with about 30 carries/season.

This one is tough, Vincent is too high priced for a backup, Rimpf might lose out to Ndukwe

Yeah, but i don't know. Rimpf played well in 2005 (he started at RG i believe) and he's able to play OT as well. Ndukwe could be practice squad material.

I agree, except Barnes is an OLB.

I think he will play DE for us, at the beginning. He's here to rush the passer and he's not ready to play OLB yet. Johnson will move to OLB and Cody injured his knee, once again. So i think on 3rd and longs we will see Suggs and Barnes at DE. Or maybe JJ and Barnes with Suggs lining up at LB. But technically you're right though. They will probably list him as an OLB.

B.J. Sams will not be cut he is a game changing R.S. he can PR while Figures takes KR...If Figures makes #4 receiver, Sams should take most if not all of the return duties.

It could happen, but one of them will get deactivated, IMO. You can't activate both guys when all they do is just return kicks and punts. Last season it was already hard enough to activate Sams because the only thing he does is return kicks and punts. Most returners in the NFL, if not all, play two positions. Guys like Dante Hall (WR), Terrance McGee (CB) etc. Maybe i'm wrong, who knows.