Amazing, Rex Is At It Again.

[XxSizzleXx]

I'm not denying it's a talking point I just don't understand all the criticism and attention towards Rex. I'm sure if you went through the news you would probably come across every team is discussing about their upcoming opponent, which is what Rex is doing...

[PuRock]

[quote name='T-ray' timestamp='1284585985' post='478085']
You'll have to forgive me for my rant, because I'm sort of new at the topics of discussion during the season. I'm sure you all do get tired of hearing the same things over and over again, especially when the two teams play twice a year. So for that, I'm sorry.
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Last year was the worst after we lost to Chad. It was Chad says that, Chad did this. So tiring.

No need for apologies. I prefer to be talking about the upcoming games, but nobody seems to be chatty in that thread.

[Untouchable]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1284578978' post='477973']
I guess we (the entire football world) find it hilarious that big Rex can't keep his yapper shut. That's all....nothing more, nothing less.

Its getting old having to listen to him all day long.....he needs to spend that time working on developing an offense to compliment the defense. Just my opinion.
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That's who Rex is and I wouldn't change a thing about him.

Yeah, he's brash and cocky, but the guy is also a defensive genius and is tremendous at motivating his players.

I personally love everything about him. I can understand why opposing fans don't like him, but when he's coaching your team there's no one else you'd rather have.

[Jabara]

I think Monday night proved why we picked Harbs and not Rex for the HC job.

[Untouchable]

[quote name='Jabara' timestamp='1284586801' post='478100']
I think Monday night proved why we picked Harbs and not Rex for the HC job.
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Not really.

Monday night proved nothing other than the fact that Joe Flacco is a better QB than Mark Sanchez at the moment.

[AwakenTheDemon]

[quote name='Untouchable' timestamp='1284586602' post='478097']
That's who Rex is and I wouldn't change a thing about him.

Yeah, he's brash and cocky, but the guy is also a defensive genius and is tremendous at motivating his players.

I personally love everything about him. I can understand why opposing fans don't like him, but when he's coaching your team there's no one else you'd rather have.
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John Harbaugh, Mike Tomlin (I may hate Pittsburgh, but I don't mind Tomlin), Sean Payton, and, dare I say it, Bill Belichick. Also, I'll throw in Dungy, just because.

Rex Ryan hasn't proven anything thus far in his head coaching career aside from his brash mouth after being handed a playoff spot by the Colts (after thinking his team was eliminated from playoff contention when they lost to the Falcons). I'm sorry, but he has alot of work to do before he and his team can be taken seriously.

No offense. No discipline on either side of the ball. Inability to stop the Ravens on third down.

[XxSizzleXx]

[quote name='AwakenTheDemon' timestamp='1284587810' post='478122']
John Harbaugh, Mike Tomlin (I may hate Pittsburgh, but I don't mind Tomlin), Sean Payton, and, dare I say it, Bill Belichick. Also, I'll throw in Dungy, just because.

Rex Ryan hasn't proven anything thus far in his head coaching career aside from his brash mouth after being handed a playoff spot by the Colts (after thinking his team was eliminated from playoff contention when they lost to the Falcons). I'm sorry, but he has alot of work to do before he and his team can be taken seriously.

[b]No offense. No discipline on either side of the ball.[/b] Inability to stop the Ravens on third down.
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How have you lasted so long as a Ravens fan? That was basically the Ravens prior to last year for their entire span as a franchise lol.

Also didn't the Jets run the ball more effectively than any other team last year?

[AwakenTheDemon]

[quote name='XxSizzleXx' timestamp='1284591268' post='478181']
How have you lasted so long as a Ravens fan? That was basically the Ravens prior to last year for their entire span as a franchise lol.

Also didn't the Jets run the ball more effectively than any other team last year?
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Keywords: Last year.

That was last year... and Thomas Jones accounted for 1,400 yards and 14 touchdowns. We already saw his successor in Shonn Greene struggle, so I highly doubt they follow it up this year with the number one rush offense.

And so what if "that was basically the Ravens prior to last year for their entire span as a franchise". We never claimed we were going to win the Super Bowl every year, we didn't sigh things "Soon to be Champs".

[Dan The Man Ravens #1 Fan]

[quote name='T-ray' timestamp='1284584267' post='478057']
Sizzle has a point... fact is, we did [u][b]not[/b][/u] beat the Bengals once last year... lets just turn our attention to that game, and away from the Jets/Patriots game, which hardly has any meaning at all to us if we can win the next game, and keep doing that almost every week.

On a side note, who is glad we didn't take Kyle Wilson with that 25th pick in the draft?? I sure am.. not only did we get good depth, we got some pretty darn good players. And our secondary, while not amazing, is pretty decent. Add that to the fact that Wilson looked overmatched in the last game against Housh, it looks like a pretty good choice by the Oz.
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Why is it such a sin to have interest in a topic other than the game against the Bengals. This doesnt mean anything. Its like saying dont watch the news cause the Ravens have a game against the defending AFC North Champs. I just dont get that.

As far as Kyle Wilson, I am completely satisfied with the choices made during the draft. I also think that Wilson is a very talented "young" cornerback. I would love to have him on our team only to groom to eventually be one of the best in the league. The jets have a great talent there and if properly brought along, he will be a great compliment to Revis.

***Side note*** Im not convinced the jets know how to groom young talent. Proof is just on the other side of the line of scrimage with Mark Sanchez. He could be a decent QB if Rex didnt decide to throw him to the wolves just like Billick did with Kyle Boller.

[berad]

There's nothing wrong with talking about Rex Ryan or any other topic as long as it is relevant and appropriate.

If you, personally, don't want to talk about Ryan, you don't have to post in the topic. Frankly, you don't even have to read the topic. That's what I attempted to do with every Troy Smith thread.

[Untouchable]

[quote name='AwakenTheDemon' timestamp='1284592666' post='478197']
Keywords: Last year.

That was last year... and Thomas Jones accounted for 1,400 yards and 14 touchdowns. We already saw his successor in Shonn Greene struggle, so I highly doubt they follow it up this year with the number one rush offense.

And so what if "that was basically the Ravens prior to last year for their entire span as a franchise". We never claimed we were going to win the Super Bowl every year, we didn't sigh things "Soon to be Champs".
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You're speaking as if Jones is some kind of top flight back. Yeah he posted some good numbers here, running behind arguably the best run blocking OL in the league, but the guy is just about finished. 33 years old and he's backing up Jamal Charles in KC as we speak.

And why is Shonn Greene's fate sealed after one game? The guy was a powerhouse in the playoffs last year. We're supposed to write him off based on one bad showing? That's like me saying that since the Jets held Ray Rice to only 43 yards rushing on 21 carries, he's bound to drop off this year.


And what's so wrong with being confident? Last time I checked, football is entertainment. It's showbiz.

Every team is thinking about winning a Super Bowl. What the hell is so wrong and taboo about speaking it out loud?

[AsianRice]

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You're speaking as if Jones is some kind of top flight back. Yeah he posted some good numbers here, running behind arguably the best run blocking OL in the league, but the guy is just about finished. 33 years old and he's backing up Jamal Charles in KC as we speak.

And why is Shonn Greene's fate sealed after one game? The guy was a powerhouse in the playoffs last year. We're supposed to write him off based on one bad showing? That's like me saying that since the Jets held Ray Rice to only 43 yards rushing on 21 carries, he's bound to drop off this year.


And what's so wrong with being confident? Last time I checked, football is entertainment. It's showbiz.

Every team is thinking about winning a Super Bowl. What the hell is so wrong and taboo about speaking it out loud?
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Well, the higher you climb the harder you land.

[Malkavian Raven]

I can see the debate from both sides; personally, I choose to just move past Ryan. The team did their talking on the field. I'll worry about Ryan & the Jets come January, if they make it that far. I'm focused on this Sunday against Cincinnati. It's going to come down to our defense should we fall behind early. Our corners are facing a tougher test this week, look for this game to set the tone for the rest of the season in that department. The front seven need to shutdown Benson & Scott in the first half so the LBs can sink back into coverage on long yardage 2nd & 3rd downs. We showed our mettle this past week, now we have to take it up a notch.

[AwakenTheDemon]

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[b]You're speaking as if Jones is some kind of top flight back. Yeah he posted some good numbers here, running behind arguably the best run blocking OL in the league, but the guy is just about finished.[/b] 33 years old and he's backing up Jamal Charles in KC as we speak.

And why is Shonn Greene's fate sealed after one game? The guy was a powerhouse in the playoffs last year. We're supposed to write him off based on one bad showing? That's like me saying that since the Jets held Ray Rice to only 43 yards rushing on 21 carries, he's bound to drop off this year.


And what's so wrong with being confident? Last time I checked, football is entertainment. It's showbiz.

Every team is thinking about winning a Super Bowl. What the hell is so wrong and taboo about speaking it out loud?
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Oh, I'm sorry... didn't he post five straight 1,000 plus yard seasons? Last year he was 3rd overall in rushing yards (1,402) along with tying CJ for 3rd in rushing TDs (14). In 2008, Jones was 5th in rushing yards (1,312) and 5th in TDs (13). 2007, he was 10th in rushing yards (1,119) but struggled with TDs with 1. Fact is Jones WAS a top flight back over his career in New York. And for the record, Jones and Charles split carries with 11 each. Charles just had that huge 56 yard run.

Secondly, when did I [i]ever[/i] say that Greene's fate was sealed? I said he struggled immensely in his first start, and I doubt that the Jets will have the number one rushing attack in the league. Do not put words in my mouth. It's week one, Greene can and has to bounce back.

Rex Ryan has surpassed being "confident", he's cocky and obnoxious. Those are two characteristics I do not like in a head coach. Football is entertainment, yes. However, it's also a profession, and I'm sorry but I feel as if you still have to conduct yourself in a professional manner. Every year the Colts could be considered a Super Bowl team, but (when he was coaching) Dungy never once signed anything "Soon-To-Be-Champs" or said that people should be betting on his Colts to win it all.

Let's not even forget that Ryan hasn't done [i]anything[/i] yet to warrant such an attitude or expectations from his team. He had the SAME exact record as Eric Mangini had in his last year as the Jets head coach. Sanchez performed mediocre at best during the regular season. Which ties into my statements about Thomas Jones, he bailed out that offense. If it weren't for that defense and Jones, the Jets wouldn't have made it into the post-season even with the Colts present to New York.

There is nothing taboo about speaking about Super Bowl aspirations, but Ryan has gone overboard, came off as overly arrogant, and his team didn't appear to be anywhere near the caliber that he claims them to be. Yes, it's week one and there's 15 more games. But when you talked as much trash as Ryan, you should be on the field week one dominating.

[YYZ66]

[quote name='Untouchable' timestamp='1284586602' post='478097']
That's who Rex is and I wouldn't change a thing about him.

Yeah, he's brash and cocky, but the guy is also a defensive genius and is tremendous at motivating his players.

I personally love everything about him. I can understand why opposing fans don't like him, but when he's coaching your team there's no one else you'd rather have.
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Will you admit he was completely outcoached by Cam Cameron? The problem with Ryan is that he can't adjust. He just keeps blitzing, no matter what. How many 3rd down conversions did the Ravens have? The majority of them (if not all) were against a blitz.

The definition of insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

[Untouchable]

[quote name='YYZ66' timestamp='1284607423' post='478416']
Will you admit he was completely outcoached by Cam Cameron? The problem with Ryan is that he can't adjust. He just keeps blitzing, no matter what. How many 3rd down conversions did the Ravens have? The majority of them (if not all) were against a blitz.

The definition of insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
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Why is everyone acting like the Ravens offense thrashed our defense?

Our defense was absolutely stellar for the most part. Stupid penalties and constant 3-and-outs were our downfall. Our offense was pitiful in this game.

The only thing I can fault Rex for was not having Revis lined up on Boldin all game. Cromartie was a walking penalty machine. Wilson didn't have a great performance, but you're talking about a rookie making his first appearance against a trio of fine receivers. He actually had good position on a few plays but was just a hair slow on locating the ball.


The main culprit for the loss is Brian Schottenhimer our OC. You're facing an aggressive defense with a banged up secondary that is without it's best player, yet you take no shots downfield? You line up in the wildcat on 3rd and 5 so everyone and their mother knows we're running it with Brad Smith? The offensive playcalling was a joke. I don't buy the argument that Sanchez is tentative about throwing downfield. He sure as hell wasn't last year. This is a product of the coaching staff beating the kid over the head about not turning the ball over. They need to take the training wheels off and let this kid play. If he throws a few picks, so be it. That's part of having a young QB. But we absolutely have to start testing opponents downfield.

Holmes can't get back soon enough.

[lowrider]

Someone should give Rex a pillow for being on his knees so much

[big hits and ball hawks]

For the Jets fan: Our offense may not have "thrashed" the Jets defense but we did better than the score showed. If Heap could have gotten that first catch in the endzone then Cromartie doesn't even get that pick. Also, if Wilson doesn't interfere on Housh in the enndzone we probably would have gotten another touchdown. As for all those other interference and holding calls on you guys could've been big catches for us as much as they could've been incompletions. You guys have a great D but no discipline. You'll get your wins I'm sure. The thing about Rex is that he's putting pressure on the players and getting your, and the rest of the fans, hopes up. It's okay to have superbowl talk but he's gauranteeing it in the media, while everyone else keeps it more to themselves. There are plenty of teams with the same hopes but are taking it a game at a time.

For the people complaining about everyone talking about Rex: I don't mean to offend, but you do know you're in a conversation under "Non-Ravens Talk" right? If you go to "Ravens Talk" there is a conversation about the upcoming game against Cincy and plenty of fans have commented on it, including myself.

Rex talks too much and that's all I have to say about that.

[AwakenTheDemon]

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Why is everyone acting like the Ravens offense thrashed our defense?

[b]Our defense was absolutely stellar for the most part. Stupid penalties and constant 3-and-outs were our downfall. Our offense was pitiful in this game.[/b]

The only thing I can fault Rex for was not having Revis lined up on Boldin all game. Cromartie was a walking penalty machine. Wilson didn't have a great performance, but you're talking about a rookie making his first appearance against a trio of fine receivers. He actually had good position on a few plays but was just a hair slow on locating the ball.


The main culprit for the loss is Brian Schottenhimer our OC. You're facing an aggressive defense with a banged up secondary that is without it's best player, yet you take no shots downfield? You line up in the wildcat on 3rd and 5 so everyone and their mother knows we're running it with Brad Smith? The offensive playcalling was a joke. I don't buy the argument that Sanchez is tentative about throwing downfield. He sure as hell wasn't last year. This is a product of the coaching staff beating the kid over the head about not turning the ball over. They need to take the training wheels off and let this kid play. If he throws a few picks, so be it. That's part of having a young QB. But we absolutely have to start testing opponents downfield.

Holmes can't get back soon enough.
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You also had trouble stopping the Ravens on third down, even without penalties. That was the main issue with the defense. For a team that prides itself on being the number one defense in the league, they failed very often on the most important down to a defense. Not to mention, you let Joe throw for 248 yards, and Boldin catch for 110 yards. Rex, like always, failed (or perhaps refused is a better word) to alter his defensive gameplan to account for Boldin getting open and gaining yardage. Like you said, instead of putting his best defensive back on Boldin, he rotated his corners on Boldin and we saw the outcome of that. Rex needs to learn to change things up if what he planned on doing before the game even started isn't working. Not to mention, Joe just made a few poor throws which should have had the game to at least 17-9 (namely that overthrown pass to McClain in the endzone).

As for the offense, yeah... maybe Schottenhimer made some poor play calling, but some of the blame is also in Sanchez's hands. He just didn't look good when he WAS throwing the ball, so I really can't blame them for not just throwing it down field. Regardless of Ed being out, Zibby showed last year he can make big plays, Landry is more than capable, and Wilson, Washington, and Carr (who may not be the [i]best[/i] in the league) are all capable of capitalizing on poor throws. Hell, had they thrown the ball deep, there's a chance that this game could have very well gotten out of hand had Sanchez gotten into a habit of making bad passes deep downfield.

In this type of game, when it was a one point game and all you needed was a field goal to win it, a conservative gameplan isn't really half bad. Perhaps not when you have under a minute left in the game, but late in the fourth. The Jets running game was doing better than Sanchez and the pass, so they had to go with what was working. I'll agree a Wildcat play on third and long is an extremely fishy call to make, but everything else I can understand.

At the end of the day (and I won't be afraid to say it), the game was decided by the Jets utter lack of discipline on either side of the ball, and the stagnant New York offense. That's not to say Baltimore played poorly, because we didn't. Our defense played extremely well, and our offense, barring some miscues, performed well also. Because regardless of Calvin Pace being out or Jenkins going down, the Jets defense is still a very, very good defense, and our offense played well enough to move the ball downfield.

[Clutch Ravens]

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Unless Sanchez learns how to [b]throw[/b] [s]down-field[/s], they definitely won't make it to the post-season.
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Thought I'd give that a bit of tweaking.

Cromartie/Wilson will be abused all day by Welker. Jets fans were saying Revis ALWAYS shadows the opponents No.1 guy. So, how, exactly, did Q put up 7 catches for 110 yards? Was Revis bad or were the other corners so awful that they had to move Revis around?

Unless their offense improves, dramatically, they're barely scraping a .500 for the season.

[Gtown Purple]

Ryan must feed of of running his mouth. I agree that Moss may not be a factor but welker is going to eat cromartie and wilson alive? Is edeelman their number 3? If so, that's another match up to exploit.