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Salary Cap Spread Sheet

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This is the players salaries 4 2008 (b4 restructures and new contracts) not sure how accurate, best i could find

Ray Lewis -6,500,000

Chris McAlister -8,000,000

Jon Ogden -7,515,000

Terrell Suggs-

Steve McNair -4,000,000

Samari Rolle- 3,900,000

Todd Heap- 3,000,000

Bart Scott -3400000

Derrick Mason -3,000,000

Trevor Pryce -3,000,000

Ed Reed - 605,000

Mike Flynn -2,000,000

Kyle Boller -

Keydrick Vincent -

Haloti Ngata -445,000

Jarret Johnson -2,000,000

Willis McGahee- 605,000

Kelly Gregg -1,700,00

Justin Bannan -1,500,000

Mike Anderson -1,800,000

Mark Clayton -800,000

Matt Stover -1,200,000

Musa Smith

Daniel Wilcox - 960,000

Gary Stills -730,000

BJ Sams

Devard Darling

Clarence Moore

Dwan Edwards - 545,000

Dan Cody -500,000

Chris Chester - 445,000

Adam Terry -462,500

Corey Ivy -730,000

Jason Brown - RFA

David Pittman -445,000

Justin Green -RFA

Demetrius Williams- 445,000

PJ Daniels -445,000

Brian Rimpf -RFA

Matt Katula -RFA

Mike Smith -RFA

Evan Oglesby - RFA

Dennis Haley -RFA

Aityyah Ellison -RFA

Jamaine Winbourne -RFA

Dawan Landry - 445,000

Quinn Sypniewski- 445,000

Sam Koch -445,000

Derrick Martin -445,000

Ronnie Prude - EFA

Cory Ross -EFA

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McNair: 4 millions :rolleyes:

Rolle: 3.9 millions :rolleyes:

Mason: 3 millions :rolleyes:

And what is McAlister making 8 millions for? The guy is standing on the sideline 90% of the time. Get rid of the 3 guys above (i can deal with re-structuring Mason) and then re-do McAlister as well, that should help us out. I can't believe how much money we waste by overpaying these old veterans that don't even produce anymore.

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McNair: 4 millions :rolleyes:

Rolle: 3.9 millions :rolleyes:

Mason: 3 millions :rolleyes:

And what is McAlister making 8 millions for? The guy is standing on the sideline 90% of the time. Get rid of the 3 guys above (i can deal with re-structuring Mason) and then re-do McAlister as well, that should help us out. I can't believe how much money we waste by overpaying these old veterans that don't even produce anymore.

Cmac still deserves his money. Last season was the first time in a long time that he got injured and couldnt play. And we have already restructured enough contracts. Restructuring all these deals isnt going to do anything but make it hard for us to cut them.

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We're talking about the same McAlister? Before 2006 the last time he played in 16 games was 2001! Every single year there is a prolem with this guy. Whether it's his knee, hamstring or shoulder, every year there's something he's complaining about. And if he continues to "do" that, there is no way in hell he deserves 8 million bucks for a season.

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exactly, i mean because remember a few years ago when Rolle was injured and we were relying on our back up players to go out there and get the job done????? they didnt quite deliver and perform to standards or to Hopes....then people and players and staff really began talking about how much they missed having a player like Rolle out there because of simply what he can do out on the field.

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Why the heck is Bannan making 1,500,000? Do even use him? Does he even play?

I still believe Rolle is over scrutinized. He looks bad because all of our starters are so good. But watch him play the NE game when he was the only one there to help our battered secondary, he played like a pro bowler. But at the same time 3.9 is asking way too much. We need to get him to restructure. And why is ed reed, the best safety in the nfl only making 605?

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right, and if you remember a few years back when Rolle went down with an injury and we had to rely on our back up players to perform......we really saw just how much Rolle brings forth to the Table for our team and just how much he can offer that was more than apparent.

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Bannan played quite a lot, it's just that he's an average tackle, he doesn't make any plays. As for Reed, he just signed a big contract. His base salary isn't a lot but he receives a lot of guaranteed money. For instance, his 2007 salary was 600k. But he also received 7.5 millions in guaranteed money because of the contract extension. His base salary will go up from now on. In 2-3 years he will probably have a base salary of ~5 millions.

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yea, the Ravens and Reed both Agreed to a contact Extension that keeps him here until at least 2011.

last season he made $8,085,440. according to Foxsports

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We're talking about the same McAlister? Before 2006 the last time he played in 16 games was 2001! Every single year there is a prolem with this guy. Whether it's his knee, hamstring or shoulder, every year there's something he's complaining about. And if he continues to "do" that, there is no way in hell he deserves 8 million bucks for a season.

I think that it is wrong to say that McAlister doesn't deserve his money. After all these years, he can still lock down just about any reciever in the league. True, injuries are a concern, but he is still very valuable.

That being said, I think that we need to restructure his contract for at least this year. I have seen the math. A simple reconstruction would save us over 5 million in cap space. I know that he's getting old and he has been missing games, but when he does play, he locks down whoever we put him on. In today's NFL, that is invaluable.

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like i said before....injuries are just part of the game, they are avery unfortunate turn of events for both the Team AND the player, as it is simply put..being in the right place, wrong time or vice versus.....no matter how you could or may look at it.

Chris had continually played consistantly well for us over the years and thus i think he deserves the money he is getting....he's still regarded around the league as a "shut down" type corner back player of whom can continually perform at a high standard....if you remember last season...throughout the most part of the season last year, he played with an injury, and it wasnt until like about towards teh end of the season that he made the decision to go to the bench and let it all heal.

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McNair: 4 millions :rolleyes:

Rolle: 3.9 millions :rolleyes:

Mason: 3 millions :rolleyes:

And what is McAlister making 8 millions for? The guy is standing on the sideline 90% of the time. Get rid of the 3 guys above (i can deal with re-structuring Mason) and then re-do McAlister as well, that should help us out. I can't believe how much money we waste by overpaying these old veterans that don't even produce anymore.

Who do you think should replace Rolle?

And I think your beef with Mason is unfounded. He was the team's leading receiver last year, with twice as many yards as the next closest guy. Pretty good for a non-productive old veteran.

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Cmac is still a top 5 DB. So he is worth the money. He was hurting bad last season. I remember when he pulled up lame. He still tried to play through it.

Does anyone know how he is healing?

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Who do you think should replace Rolle?

And I think your beef with Mason is unfounded. He was the team's leading receiver last year, with twice as many yards as the next closest guy. Pretty good for a non-productive old veteran.

A draft pick.

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A draft pick.

Fair enough--I'd like to see them draft a corner too. Still doesn't solve the depth problem behind the starters, though, assuming Rolle goes.

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Fair enough--I'd like to see them draft a corner too. Still doesn't solve the depth problem behind the starters, though, assuming Rolle goes.

Two draft picks.

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Cmac is still a top 5 DB. So he is worth the money. He was hurting bad last season. I remember when he pulled up lame. He still tried to play through it.

Does anyone know how he is healing?

he said he is feeling a lot better

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I feel we should trade our 2nd round draft pick for hall, thus solving are CB problem, we would be spending that pick on a CB most likely anyway, so I believe it would make more sense to acquire a player we know is good then a player who could be a potential bust

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I feel we should trade our 2nd round draft pick for hall, thus solving are CB problem, we would be spending that pick on a CB most likely anyway, so I believe it would make more sense to acquire a player we know is good then a player who could be a potential bust

Yes. That would be a steal. he doesn't even need to be coached. He's worth a first easy. Maybe even #8.

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I feel we should trade our 2nd round draft pick for hall, thus solving are CB problem, we would be spending that pick on a CB most likely anyway, so I believe it would make more sense to acquire a player we know is good then a player who could be a potential bust

I love this scenario. All the talk about his attitude issues-I think they would disapear upon his arrival. And if he ever acted out...c'mon Ray would duck tape him to his locker or lock him in his basement and blast some opera. I'm pretty sure he'd be kept in check. Definately second round though I think we need to keep our first just for the slight chance of Jake Long falling which theres some light in my mind that he could.

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McNair: 4 millions :rolleyes:

Rolle: 3.9 millions :rolleyes:

Mason: 3 millions :rolleyes:

And what is McAlister making 8 millions for? The guy is standing on the sideline 90% of the time. Get rid of the 3 guys above (i can deal with re-structuring Mason) and then re-do McAlister as well, that should help us out. I can't believe how much money we waste by overpaying these old veterans that don't even produce anymore.

I'd take cmac for 8 mil/yr even if I knew I'd get 13 healthy games out of him and sit the other 3. He's one of the best of the best even when he's not 100%

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injured players (whoever it may be at the time) can still or has the capacity to play well...it may not be like they were when they were playing at 100 percent BUT it could very well be than much better off than (lets say) that of a player with less experience and not as "skilled" as others. it all really depends on the athlete or player themselves on an individual basis and having them think they still can deliver and better his team than say....if he were out.

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I'd take cmac for 8 mil/yr even if I knew I'd get 13 healthy games out of him and sit the other 3. He's one of the best of the best even when he's not 100%

Aint that the truth. He was only 50-60% when he played the Pats this year.Rolle was only at about 70-80% and he covered Moss for most of the game.

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and i think Moss only had about1 or 2 catches that game didnt he? id have to double check on that..but yea we faired pretty well against him. we shut him down pretty much except for those few that cost us.

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I feel we should trade our 2nd round draft pick for hall, thus solving are CB problem, we would be spending that pick on a CB most likely anyway, so I believe it would make more sense to acquire a player we know is good then a player who could be a potential bust

i doubt they would take our 2nd round draft pick for hall........if they will then i would be fine with it....but i doubt just the 2nd round pick will be enough

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and even still.....there remains that ever looming issue of whether or not Hall will become a distraction for the team both on and off the football field. there is no doubt that the man can play, thats more than apparent. But i think the main issue with Hall is that of his overall Mentality of working together as a "Team" and not on individual basis, which (more than likely as we have seen time and time again) that it can and will become a Distraction for the team overall, both on and off the field.

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and even still.....there remains that ever looming issue of whether or not Hall will become a distraction for the team both on and off the football field. there is no doubt that the man can play, thats more than apparent. But i think the main issue with Hall is that of his overall Mentality of working together as a "Team" and not on individual basis, which (more than likely as we have seen time and time again) that it can and will become a Distraction for the team overall, both on and off the field.

im sure if hall came to baltimore he wouldnt be a distraction at all. i think he got a bad deal with getting drafted to the falcons. With the controversy surrounding that team only a matter of time b4 it spread to their younger star players. just so happened hall was the 1st victim.

Even if he did become an issue do you think harb would let him start...forget harbb he would have to deal with us. Do you think the fans would let him get away with that? the fans would put him in check like chad coming across the middle to block ray.

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Ed Reed - 605,000

Willis McGahee- 605,000

There is no way that can be accurate. Maybe 6 mill?

I read the comment about Reed making 8 mill last year, that sounds more accurate (Yet a tad bit high)

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