Ravens Claim Dallas Cowboys Brian McCann Off Waivers

[svt2nv04]

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I don't really know much about him but at least we get more CB depth like we've been talking about...

Opinions on this?

[svt2nv04]

"McCann ran a 4.28 at his pro day this spring."

Holy cow!

[BohBalmerOsbohs]

awesome

[AwakenTheDemon]

Who?

[s]I doubt he'll make the team.[/s]

I stand corrected. Aaron Wilson is reporting that Prince Miller is being placed on the PS and McCann will take his spot on the roster.
[url="http://twitter.com/RavensInsider/status/23079798120"]Source: Aaron Wilson's Twitter[/url]

[justifythegame]

Speed is the most overrated stat. Ever since harbaugh came over all we have done is go after CBs with a great 40 time. Fabian Washington can probably beat anyone on the field in a race to the endzone, but it doesn't matter because he can't actually cover, intimidate receivers, or actually cover. Frank Walker was an awful cornerback but the one thing he brought that we needed was his physicality. I wish we would go back to the days of getting corners who could cover and tackle like c-mac and rolle.

[berad]

[quote name='justifythegame' timestamp='1283712349' post='465782']
Speed is the most overrated stat. Ever since harbaugh came over all we have done is go after CBs with a great 40 time. Fabian Washington can probably beat anyone on the field in a race to the endzone, but it doesn't matter because he can't actually cover, intimidate receivers, or actually cover. Frank Walker was an awful cornerback but the one thing he brought that we needed was his physicality. I wish we would go back to the days of getting corners who could cover and tackle like c-mac and rolle.
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Lardarius Webb, Chris Carr, and Cary Williams aren't the fastest guys on the field.

Anyways, this guy figures to be more of a punt-return specialist, I don't think he'll see a lot of time on defense.

[ravenight]

Mccann is an unproven talent-he has to gel with the rest of the secondary which is still trying to find an identity-this knee-jerk reaction to our secondary issues is exactly what I feared-why didn't we address this issue on draft day? Sheesh

[AwakenTheDemon]

Like Berad said, I highly doubt this is anything more than a return game signing. I would be surprised to see McCann take the field as part of the defense in very many situations. There is no "knee-jerk reaction" to the cornerback situation. We traded for Wilson to actually play cornerback for us, and brought in McCann for the return game.

[Ravenseconbeast]

You can only find so much 'diamond in the rough'. I think it's time Ozzie gets out of that loophole and find a solid DB.

Is Rolle out of injury yet? Maybe we can bring the guy back

[AwakenTheDemon]

[quote name='Ravenseconbeast' timestamp='1283713801' post='465801']
You can only find so much 'diamond in the rough'. I think it's time Ozzie gets out of that loophole and find a solid DB.

Is Rolle out of injury yet? Maybe we can bring the guy back
[/quote]

Dude, Samari retired, man. Let the man enjoy his retirement, he worked his body to the bone for the game. He is not coming back, and I wouldn't wish for him to come back. And I say that as a huge Rolle fan.

[Moderator 3]

[quote name='ravenight' timestamp='1283713471' post='465796']
Mccann is an unproven talent-he has to gel with the rest of the secondary which is still trying to find an identity-this knee-jerk reaction to our secondary issues is exactly what I feared-[b]why didn't we address this issue on draft day[/b]? Sheesh
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Please read [url="http://boards.baltimoreravens.com/topic/25424-news-byrne-identity-quest-for-cb-began-before-draft/"][color="#4B0082"]this excellent article by Kevin Byrne[/color][/url] for an explanation of why we didn't draft a CB.

[ravenight]

[quote name='AwakenTheDemon' timestamp='1283713678' post='465797']
Like Berad said, I highly doubt this is anything more than a return game signing. I would be surprised to see McCann take the field as part of the defense in very many situations. There is no "knee-jerk reaction" to the cornerback situation. We traded for Wilson to actually play cornerback for us, and brought in McCann for the return game.
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How many return specialist do we need? Carr, Zb, David Reed and Stallworth when he returns-I think McCann is indeed a knee jerk reaction trying to fill bullet holes with band-aids.

[AwakenTheDemon]

Carr... a return specialist? Did you watch him last year? I don't think calling for a fair catch when you can gain another 10-20 yards is much of a specialist. Zibby has his hands full with his increased workload at safety with Reed out. Stallworth is gone for half the season. So that leaves David Reed in your list, with maybe the addition of Parmele. Sorry, no "knee-jerk reaction".

Fact of the matter is, the Ravens do not (as of right now) have a dangerous return man. We don't have a Cribbs, a Sproles, a DeSean Jackson. We have some "good" return men, but no one you could call a threat in the return game. McCann is young and fast, I have no problem bringing him in if the team thinks he can be a threat returning kicks. If it pans out, perhaps we'll have a dangerous guy back there. If not, it's really not a big loss.

Some people are blowing the recent roster moves completely out of proportion.

[itscbm5042]

By all accounts McCann impressed and the cowboys tried to retain him on PS he has good size at 6' and is an upgrade over Miller. I have to see more film but I like the move. It also signals that Wilson will be a big part of the defense and not a return man.

[Purple Nurple]

[quote name='AwakenTheDemon' timestamp='1283714595' post='465810']
Some people [s]are[/s] blow[s]ing the recent roster moves[/s] EVERYTHING THIS TEAM DOES OR DOESNT DO completely out of proportion.
[/quote]

Corrected.

[ravenight]

[quote name='AwakenTheDemon' timestamp='1283714595' post='465810']
Carr... a return specialist? Did you watch him last year? I don't think calling for a fair catch when you can gain another 10-20 yards is much of a specialist. Zibby has his hands full with his increased workload at safety with Reed out. Stallworth is gone for half the season. So that leaves David Reed in your list, with maybe the addition of Parmele. Sorry, no "knee-jerk reaction".

Some people are blowing the recent roster moves completely out of proportion.
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IMO McCann will see limited action at returns but hopefully will be a good addition to the secondary!

[AwakenTheDemon]

[quote name='Purple Nurple' timestamp='1283714769' post='465813']
Corrected.
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Touche, I stand corrected yet again, Nurps =P

[svt2nv04]

Prince Miller cut. Seems like a direct replacement; McCann for Miller.

[RoflDogs]

Reading the Cowboys forum, and they are saying that McCann has been pretty good in preseason

[berad]

[quote name='ravenight' timestamp='1283714377' post='465806']
How many return specialist do we need? Carr, Zb, David Reed and Stallworth when he returns-I think McCann is indeed a knee jerk reaction trying to fill bullet holes with band-aids.
[/quote]

I don't think you understand the idea of a 'specialist'.. All of the players you listed figure to see a fair amount of time on their respective offensive/defensive units. A specialist is someone who devotes their time solely to one unit.

If I were to guess, I would say that McCann will take only a handful of defensive snaps all season (barring injury and the second coming of Deion Sanders); he'll probably be the team's primary punt returner. The same can be said for Jalen Parmele, except on kick returns. You should have listed him, then you might be right.

[scrock]

[quote name='ravenight' timestamp='1283713471' post='465796']
Mccann is an unproven talent-he has to gel with the rest of the secondary which is still trying to find an identity-this knee-jerk reaction to our secondary issues is exactly what I feared-why didn't we address this issue on draft day? Sheesh
[/quote]

You still don't get it dude, if we drafted a CB we would be in the same position!!! Foxworth still went down...we got Wilson instead of a rookie out of the draft. Dude wake up...seriously you're argument is so weak.

[CorvusCorax]

[quote name='AwakenTheDemon' timestamp='1283714595' post='465810']
Carr... a return specialist? Did you watch him last year? I don't think calling for a fair catch when you can gain another 10-20 yards is much of a specialist.
[/quote]

Oh c'mon give the guy some credit. He improved the second half the of the season at least and actually ran for it instead of making fair catches lol.

[CorvusCorax]

[quote name='ravenight' timestamp='1283713471' post='465796']
Mccann is an unproven talent-he has to gel with the rest of the secondary which is still trying to find an identity-this knee-jerk reaction to our secondary issues is exactly what I feared-why didn't we address this issue on draft day? Sheesh
[/quote]

OMG dude why must you continue to be so negative about EVERYTHING? Good god...

[AwakenTheDemon]

[quote name='CorvusCorax' timestamp='1283716344' post='465842']
Oh c'mon give the guy some credit. He improved the second half the of the season at least and actually ran for it instead of making fair catches lol.
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He improved, marginally. Where he really showed improvement was his actual cornerback play. Regardless though, he's really not very effective in the return game, no matter how much he may have improved. I'm not knocking the guy, I support him fully as a cornerback, just not returning punts.

[J-man]

Man, I liked Prince. Hopefully we can get him on the practice squad.

[Andrew Glass]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1283716159' post='465837']
You still don't get it dude, if we drafted a CB we would be in the same position!!! Foxworth still went down...we got Wilson instead of a rookie out of the draft. Dude wake up...seriously you're argument is so weak.
[/quote]

Not really, If we had drafted a CB in the first we still could of gotten cody and ATLEAST 1 of the te's if not traded up for the second one. If you draft a corner with your first pick there is a chance you solidifty that position for years to come with a kyle wilson type player. Josh Wilson is behind on the defense and won't play much early on and there is a chance it's a 1 year rental for maybe even a 4th round pick.

[AwakenTheDemon]

[quote name='Andrew Glass' timestamp='1283716658' post='465849']
Not really, If we had drafted a CB in the first we still could of gotten cody and ATLEAST 1 of the te's if not traded up for the second one. If you draft a corner with your first pick there is a chance you solidifty that position for years to come with a kyle wilson type player. Josh Wilson is behind on the defense and won't play much early on and there is a chance it's a 1 year rental for maybe even a 4th round pick.
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If I recall correctly, he's slated to play starting week one. Wilson is no rookie, he has the skills to come in and play week one, regardless of how late he joined the team. Also, I highly doubt this is a "one year rental". Josh is a Maryland boy, and with how much of a predicament we usually have at the cornerback position, I could see us keeping him, depending on what he shows us this season.

Yeah, we could have drafted Wilson, then either got Cody or Kindle, and only, what, three more players? Instead we traded, got Cody and Kindle, our young TEs, a receiver, defensive lineman, and offensive lineman. Then we gave up a 5th for a fourth year corner. We did just fine.

[McBoller]

Aint that a kick...man, these bubble guys go through a lot emotionally I bet. One minute Miller's on the team getting an article written about him [url="http://blogs.baltimoreravens.com/2010/09/05/miller-overcomes-odds-to-make-team/"]HERE[/url], the next he's getting cut...hopefully he makes it through waivers.

[ravenanchors]

There are 2 obvious facts that can be drawn from the Ravens Signing McCann.

The ravens did not trust Miller enough at this time to leave him as a return man because of lack of experience.

The ravens could have assigned another player to be the return man but did not for the reason, the Ravens need their defensive backs and receivers to stay healty and concentrate on their main assignment.

Right now, the receivers and defensive backs are very valuable and the Ravens cannot take a chance on another injury.

[ooo sugahhh 52]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1283716159' post='465837']
You still don't get it dude, if we drafted a CB we would be in the same position!!! Foxworth still went down...we got Wilson instead of a rookie out of the draft. Dude wake up...seriously you're argument is so weak.
[/quote]
you my friend are correct, people forget that we had other holes before the draft and we managed to fill them without reaching in the draft. we had the least amount of picks in the nfl going into the draft so we did what we had to do and that means we couldnt get a corner in the first. but we took care of it with josh wilson. some people are never satisfied. but ill kindle (i know he had an accident but no one could have foreseen that and it looks like he'll be back soon) dickson and pitta (all positions we needed depth at before the draft) over kyle wilson any day