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Merged: T.J. Houshmandzadeh Signs With the Ravens

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[quote name='MKdave' timestamp='1283792726' post='466606']
I have to question your decision to wipe it on your head afterwards...
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Yeah, that voids the presumable shower, beforehand.

Well worth it, though. It's already that hideous color, no one will be able to tell.
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We DEFINITELY want that title this year. Look at the things we have done this offseason:

Picked up the best available insurance QB in Bulger,

got a really sly deal for J. Wilson even though our CB situation wasn't horrific,

picked up Housh after already adding Boldin and Stallworth (his injury must surely have played a part in the signing).

We are RIDICULOUSLY deep on Offense now, we could have a fair few guys out and still have the likes of McGahee, Clayton Housh, Dickson and/or Pitta on the field. WOW.
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[quote name='Rinbee' timestamp='1283792864' post='466620']
Feel like Oz and the FO are slipping into panic mode and trying to force fit too many pieces. Housh will not fit. We have too ma offensive weapons to keep everyone happy or develop a grove with core players
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Panic mode? How?

You can never have too many offensive weapons but the core, go-to guys are still Rice, Mason, Q and Heap in my opinion.
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What I find hilarious about this whole thing is, that a media frenzy was created earlier about Rex flying to Florida, saving the day and sealing the deal with Revis like he was sending a message to the rest of the league. Then we sign TJ and in a language that Rex surely understands, just shot a big, fat Rex Bomb back his way!
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I mean what's done is done, and it really is a smart move but realistically we didn't/don't need him and Clayton would do just fine in the slot.

I think it's interesting he chose us over the Raiders and Skins where he could of started easily.
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[quote name='DrMoonTooth' timestamp='1283791724' post='466533']
I'm sure this has been said before, but I'm anxious to see who we let go as a result. I wouldn't be happy letting go of Smith or Reed. Smith is a great special teams contributor and Reed adds potential and much needed youth to our set of receivers.
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The answer is Mark Clayton
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[quote name='berad' timestamp='1283792583' post='466594']
I did :th_towel-1:
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You're just a little fan. I've desecrated plenty of purple trinkets too.
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[quote name='FlaccoFlicker' timestamp='1283793188' post='466643']
The answer is Mark Clayton
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I keep hearing the same thing but havent seen any "official" reports. Has anyone else?
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[quote name='Dan The Man Ravens #1 Fan' timestamp='1283793521' post='466663']
I keep hearing the same thing but havent seen any "official" reports. Has anyone else?
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following the ravens media coverage on twitter they throwing him on the trading block first,take it for draft picks.

Mark Clayton was called into a meeting today and informed of the team's plans for him.
http://twitter.com/RavensInsider

I'm told that Ravens WR Mark Clayton is on the trading block now. If they can't trade him, the current plan is to release him.

http://twitter.com/duffstar
http://twitter.com/DanKolko
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The KC Chiefs once expressed interest in #Ravens WR Mark Clayton, who is reportedly being shopped by the team

http://bit.ly/cIwiX4

http://twitter.com/jamisonhensley
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Well I eat my words. I did not think we would go after housh. I guess the price is right. Surprised the Clayton is the odd man out. Thought he had a good TC And attitude.
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[quote name='FlaccoFlicker' timestamp='1283793739' post='466673']
following the ravens media coverage on twitter they throwing him on the trading block first,take it for draft picks.

Mark Clayton was called into a meeting today and informed of the team's plans for him.
http://twitter.com/RavensInsider

I'm told that Ravens WR Mark Clayton is on the trading block now. If they can't trade him, the current plan is to release him.

http://twitter.com/duffstar
http://twitter.com/DanKolko
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WOW. We aren't messing around with underachieving WR's this year. Holy ****.

I'm really shocked that we brought T.J. in. We need to remember that Q is the elite out of the entire core, so he needs to get his looks more often than not. Either way, solid sign by Ozzie.
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I would've thought Stalls would be the odd man out, since he'll miss nearly half a season on a one year contract.
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[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1283794049' post='466692']
I would've thought Stalls would be the odd man out, since he'll miss nearly half a season on a one year contract.
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I think Harbaugh like Stalls and his work ethic and performance too much.
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I sincerely hope the team doesn't let Mark Clayton go via trade unless it's for a fair amount of value; the guy's just starting to play well in the slot and you'd think the team would want to hold onto a guy like Clayton who knows the playbook and has improved. Granted, this could be like a situation with Antwan Barnes where he's in a contract year and they want to unload him [i]now[/i] while he's still got value, but you'd think that retaining Clayton would be a better move to maintain depth in the receiving corps, especially since there's no guarantee that Houshmandzadeh will have an easy time picking up the offense and contribute immediately.
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[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1283794049' post='466692']
I would've thought Stalls would be the odd man out, since he'll miss nearly half a season on a one year contract.
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Obviously the FO value half of a Stallworth season higher than a full Clayton season.
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I would think that the only realistic way I'd be happy with unloading Clayton is if there is more depth added to the offensive line, as you can never have too much depth there. A wealth of offensive linemen and defensive backs will go a long way, particularly since those positions get hit with injuries most frequently.
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[quote name='Give it to Clutch Clayton' timestamp='1283794296' post='466705']
Obviously the FO value half of a Stallworth season higher than a full Clayton season.
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Well, also, it might be easier to unload Clayton and get some value back, than try to come to an injury settlement with Stallworth and get nothing in return, especially if both guys' contributions may be comparable this season if they were both healthy at the same time.
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excuse my language but holy s&*% what is going on i wake up and TJ houz signs with B-more ? never thought it would happen
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[quote name='FlaccoFlicker' timestamp='1283793739' post='466673']
following the ravens media coverage on twitter they throwing him on the trading block first,take it for draft picks.

Mark Clayton was called into a meeting today and informed of the team's plans for him.
http://twitter.com/RavensInsider

I'm told that Ravens WR Mark Clayton is on the trading block now. If they can't trade him, the current plan is to release him.

http://twitter.com/duffstar
http://twitter.com/DanKolko
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Thanks
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[quote name='Shammy' timestamp='1283794535' post='466721']
excuse my language but holy s&*% what is going on i wake up and TJ houz signs with B-more ? never thought it would happen
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You just woke up? Geez. :lol:
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I think it was a great move, I've not been happy with Clayton and his production has been terrible for where he was drafted. If Clayton was an FA last year would anyone have signed him to the contract that Housh got or even close? He has looked good this year and I don't discredit that at all, we have Boldin who will demand attention and be a bigger threat but I'm looking at the big picture and not just the moment.

Prior to signing any players injuries was a major concern and still is, Stallworth is out, what if Boldin got hurt? If it was just mase, clayton, and another WR on the roster do you still think Clayton would look as good as he has in the preseason? How many years has he been here?

Now Housh may have his issues I'm not blind, but if you compare their numbers its no debate if Housh brings 100%, he is a better blocker, bigger target, will punish teams even further that give Boldin all the attention and would be able to step up if boldin were hurt. People say he's just a possession receiver now, that's fine, is that not what we've had the last few years??? That's what mason is and we did just fine so I think it was a great move and it was time to release people that didn't produce what we expected instead of having false hopes thinking every season that light was going to go off and it never did. Look at DWill, how many years did we keep him waiting on potential? All we did was keep a roster spot instead of calling it like we see it and giving someone else a chance to shine.

And I give Oz the credit for making the effort even if it doesn't workout. During the Billick era how many times were risks taken on proven players to help the team? Offensively under him we didn't progress at all we just ran Jamal until he was toast. As much as I despise the Cowboys I respect their owner because win or lose no one can deny he does his best to improve his team. I'd rather have that and be proud than someone who will not take chances and opportunity walks by.
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Wow, I did not see that coming at all. I will admit I used to loathe this guy (Housh) especially when we still had Cmac. But, I'm glad to have him on our team now, because I know the kind of toughness he brings to the position. It seems like our WR's are way tougher than years previous with Mason, Boldin and Houshmandzadeh. (first attempt to spell it correctly! LOL)

I'm also surprised that Clayton is the odd man out. I would figure they would try to waive Reed and sign him to the practice sqaud. I guess they figure if Clayton is now 4th or 5th on the depth chart (when stallworth comes back) then he needs to fulfill some serious special teams responsibilities. Seeing that this isn't his strength, they probably are trying to free up cap space and get something in return for him by trading him. I wonder if they don't get trade offers if they will really release him. I would rather they release a Jason Phillips or someone else young and hope they clear waivers. But I suppose the FO knows what their intentions are for Clayton in the long run anyways, so they may have no plans to re-sign him next year and are trying to get what they can out of it.

Still is crazy to me though! Housh in a ravens jersey is going to look really strange.
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[quote name='thewarden86' timestamp='1283794613' post='466729']
You just woke up? Geez. :lol:
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Yeah I've been up since 4 this morning lol.
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[quote name='die_hard_raven' timestamp='1283794929' post='466747']
I think it was a great move, I've not been happy with Clayton and his production has been terrible for where he was drafted. If Clayton was an FA last year would anyone have signed him to the contract that Housh got or even close? He has looked good this year and I don't discredit that at all, we have Boldin who will demand attention and be a bigger threat but I'm looking at the big picture and not just the moment.

Prior to signing any players injuries was a major concern and still is, Stallworth is out, what if Boldin got hurt? If it was just mase, clayton, and another WR on the roster do you still think Clayton would look as good as he has in the preseason? How many years has he been here?

Now Housh may have his issues I'm not blind, but if you compare their numbers its no debate if Housh brings 100%, [b]he is a better blocker[/b], bigger target, will punish teams even further that give Boldin all the attention and would be able to step up if boldin were hurt. People say he's just a possession receiver now, that's fine, is that not what we've had the last few years??? That's what mason is and we did just fine so I think it was a great move and it was time to release people that didn't produce what we expected instead of having false hopes thinking every season that light was going to go off and it never did. Look at DWill, how many years did we keep him waiting on potential? All we did was keep a roster spot instead of calling it like we see it and giving someone else a chance to shine.

And I give Oz the credit for making the effort even if it doesn't workout. During the Billick era how many times were risks taken on proven players to help the team? Offensively under him we didn't progress at all we just ran Jamal until he was toast. As much as I despise the Cowboys I respect their owner because win or lose no one can deny he does his best to improve his team. I'd rather have that and be proud than someone who will not take chances and opportunity walks by.
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I actually think Clayton is a better blocker(based on what Franchise said a few pages back) but overall, T.J. is undoubtedly a better player.
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[quote name='thewarden86' timestamp='1283788753' post='466361']
I can't believe the Ravens signed Whose-yer-mama. Are you guys trying to out-Jet the Jets with regards to FA signings???
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Sounds like somebody just puckered a little more! To be honest, I'd be scared of us this year, too ;)
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[quote name='thewarden86' timestamp='1283794613' post='466729']
You just woke up? Geez. :lol:
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yep long nite lol
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