Merged: T.J. Houshmandzadeh Signs With the Ravens

[Dan The Man Ravens #1 Fan]

There is going to be something very interesting happening over the next few days in regards to TJ. He has been cut by the Seahawks and they are still obligated to pay his 2010 salary.

Whatever team signs him could get a great deal. He will be picked up by a superbowl contender and could pay him just about nothing. Whatever team picks him up could pay him for example 1.5 mil and the Seahawks are required to pay the difference.

I see him possibly going to the Vikes or maybe the Jets need some more personality on their team. Ha

Mark my words, HE IS NOT a Raven type guy.

[ravenight]

[quote name='Dan The Man Ravens #1 Fan' timestamp='1283554319' post='463902']
There is going to be something very interesting happening over the next few days in regards to TJ. He has been cut by the Seahawks and they are still obligated to pay his 2010 salary.

Whatever team signs him could get a great deal. He will be picked up by a superbowl contender and could pay him just about nothing. Whatever team picks him up could pay him for example 1.5 mil and the Seahawks are required to pay the difference.

I see him possibly going to the Vikes or maybe the Jets need some more personality on their team. Ha

Mark my words, HE IS NOT a Raven type guy.
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Have to just say no to the Housh-he is kinda washed up!

[Tiznut]

[quote name='die_hard_raven' timestamp='1283530886' post='463575']
TJ would cost to much and wouldn't be a good fit, now I could be open to Patrick Creighton if released from Dallas. I'd rather have him in the slot than Clayton. Good size, good hands, reliable and would come cheap. He's a proven player that would help us out.
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TJ hasn't given any indication on what his price tag would be so you
don't know how much it would take. Adam Schefter also pointed out
that he has $7.5m guaranteed this year from Seattle. meaning that
no matter what he signs for he'll make a total of $7.5m as Seattle will
have to pay the difference. A la jake Del Homme in Cleveland.

So price isn't the issue.

As for style. I almost agree that his style doesn't make up for Stallworth. Then I remember something Palmer said. TJ is deceptively fast and is/was able to stretch the field.

So no I don't think it's an issue of style either. After all it's not like with Boldin, Mason and Heap on the field we're not exactly fast to begin with so he helps with the idea of moving the chains, providing solid depth, and even run blocking ability from yet another WR.

Now that said, I don't think we get him nor talk to him but it isn't because he wouldn't fit but more along the lines of we already have good depth.

[flynismo]

This definitely changes things. The way I see it, a quality player is a quality player. When you have the opportunity to bring one aboard AT THE RIGHT PRICE, you need to jump on it. I think we need to at least give him a call and see where things stand.

[macbrak]

housh is a possession receiver, we have two better ones of that type

also he ain't worth 7mil and ain't going anywhere because of it

[EnVy_CaLiBeR]

We clearly have two possession receivers so there is no need for another one with a 7,5 million dollar price tag.

I think he goes to the Redskins or Raiders.

[Guest RBates]

Dennis pitta and Ed Dickson should prove to be very valuable in our passing game. These kids are amazing so yes i'm going to agree with the rest of the guys and say i am more than happy with our current core of receivers. P.s don't get rid of Marcus smith he is a beast in progress.

[Tiznut]

[quote name='EnVy_CaLiBeR' timestamp='1283566949' post='464024']
We clearly have two possession receivers so there is no need for another one with a 7,5 million dollar price tag.

I think he goes to the Redskins or Raiders.
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fyi
seattle owes him 7.5 not the team that signs him
i.e. a team signs him for $1 mil seattle owes him 6.5
i.e we get him for $1 mil so his cost to us is $1 mil
in other words he could be signed and play for 4 weeks and baltimore barely pays anything but seattle owes him still.
so no his price tag isn't high to the team that signs him unless one offers $8 mil
otherwise it's all about where he wants to go as the cost to any team would be the same.

vet minimum of $800k with seattle oweing the rest

[Shammy]

new england could be possibly too now that they lost Holt

[Picsix]

Just listening to local talk radio here in Seattle and they are reporting TJ has been told we will trade you or release u if there are no trades can be worked out. Talk shows debating why would hawks announce they are letting him go and ruin chance of trade. Talk host say he is not good influence in locker room. Other talk is fans are upset they didn't get willis or more than a 4th or 5th for a starting corner.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='12th man' timestamp='1283544775' post='463791']
It's all good didn't mean to make you upset. i think as it stands now we are set just projecting in case we have any more injuries at WR that's all.
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You didn't upset me, I just think this is a stupid topic.

[PurpleChaos]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1283578898' post='464110']
You didn't upset me, I just think this is a stupid topic.
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All I have to say is Ochostinko is already lobbying for him and if for some reason TJ finds his way back in a Bengal uni we are in major trouble with that receiving squad. I think he'll probably land elsewhere though.

[Alexir]

we're still a run first team people......

[Milton145]

I bet we turn into a pass happy team as the season wears on.

Not that I'm saying we should get TJ. Our #4 receiver isn't going to get much playing time barring injury to our big 3. We have 3 TEs that can line up wide to create mismatches. Our #4 and #5 will most likely be Marcus Smith and David Reed just because they have special teams value IMO.

[Alexir]

[quote name='Milton145' timestamp='1283613458' post='464248']
I bet we turn into a pass happy team as the season wears on.

Not that I'm saying we should get TJ. Our #4 receiver isn't going to get much playing time barring injury to our big 3. We have 3 TEs that can line up wide to create mismatches. Our #4 and #5 will most likely be Marcus Smith and David Reed just because they have special teams value IMO.
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Maybe but it's easier to run the ball in cold weather. And honestly Flacco is a good QB but I haven't seen anything from him that would suggest we become pass Happy like Rodgers, Manning, Brady, Brees and Favre. I rather let the 3 Pro Bowl Running Backs tote the rock.

[BlindSide]

Well he got Cut so it would not be hard to get him now.



http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5531522

[AwakenTheDemon]

[quote name='BlindSide' timestamp='1283625898' post='464556']
Well he got Cut so it would not be hard to get him now.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5531522
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However, we still don't really need him either. We have enough talent to make it hard to trim down to 53.

[Milton145]

If we have room by the time cuts are done, I certainly wouldn't be opposed to getting him.

Though I hope we actually use him though meaning opening up 4 WR sets. But that means Stallworth will have a hard time getting on the field.

[Ed_Reed20]

The Ravens have no interest in him.

[scrock]

No! We don't need TJ and I don't want him as a Raven. When he was a Bengal he always hated the Ravens and believed that he was better than us.

Ravens have plenty of receivers and playmakers why waste money and go get one we don't need.

[pick6raven]

no doubt we should get him! stallworths hurt half the year, no doubt!

[pick6raven]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1283626517' post='464575']
No! We don't need TJ and I don't want him as a Raven. When he was a Bengal he always hated the Ravens and believed that he was better than us.

Ravens have plenty of receivers and playmakers why waste money and go get one we don't need.
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dunno y u think we have plenty of WRs stallworths hurt n as much as i love boldin hes wasnt durable in nfc west n our divisions much more physical. n we all know what kind of passing game we generate w just mason n clayton

[die_hard_raven]

[quote name='PurpleChaos' timestamp='1283607595' post='464211']
All I have to say is Ochostinko is already lobbying for him and if for some reason TJ finds his way back in a Bengal uni we are in major trouble with that receiving squad. I think he'll probably land elsewhere though.
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Well my friend according to this article the feeling may be mutual

http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/bengals/entries/2010/09/03/tj_on_trade_block_says_he_miss.html

I think it would be naive or retarded to think this would not make them more of a threat. Even if their passing game did not greatly improve the presence of those players along with Gresham would force defenses to respect them. To leave them open would be foolish. According to his contract him can sign for the veteran minimum this year while Seattle will cover the remainder of his salary for this season.

I have faith in my team!!! Let's not get it twisted and I hope this does not happen, if it does oh how the run lanes will open against opposition.

[scrock]

[quote name='pick6raven' timestamp='1283628897' post='464645']
dunno y u think we have plenty of WRs stallworths hurt n as much as i love boldin hes wasnt durable in nfc west n our divisions much more physical. n we all know what kind of passing game we generate w just mason n clayton
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Boldin, Mason, Clayton, Reed, Heap, Dickson, Pitta, and Rice out of the backfield. I'd say we are pretty stacked with targets for Joe to throw the ball too. I did have Williams in there but he was waived so I guess we'll just have to see what happens.

People were calling us one of the deepest teams in the league when Stallworth was healthy. So what we lose one guy and all of the sudden we don't have depth?

I dont think so

[reediddy]

Actually, this isn't too bad an idea. You look at our WR depth, it has diminished so quickly. We lose Williams (cut), David Reed is on PUP, Stallworth broke his foot. Where does that leave us? Boldin, Mason, Clayton? (Please tell me if I'm missing someone). Also, we know how injury-prone Boldin is, we know that Mason is getting up there in age, and we know Clayton is inconsistent. Signing Housh would give us great depth at a position which we thought was solid, but has slowly dwindled. Toughness over the middle, to spell Boldin, and possibly some inside info on the Bungles

EDIT: Sorry I failed to mention Heap, Dickson, Pitta. Of course they will be included in the pass-catching duties. But in certain situations we need WR depth, TE's will stay in to block.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='reediddy' timestamp='1283634848' post='464831']
Actually, this isn't too bad an idea. You look at our WR depth, it has diminished so quickly. We lose Williams (cut), David Reed is on PUP, Stallworth broke his foot. Where does that leave us? Boldin, Mason, Clayton? (Please tell me if I'm missing someone). Also, we know how injury-prone Boldin is, we know that Mason is getting up there in age, and we know Clayton is inconsistent. Signing Housh would give us great depth at a position which we thought was solid, but has slowly dwindled. Toughness over the middle, to spell Boldin, and possibly some inside info on the Bungles

EDIT: Sorry I failed to mention Heap, Dickson, Pitta. Of course they will be included in the pass-catching duties. But in certain situations we need WR depth, TE's will stay in to block.
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It just isn't a good idea on so man levels.

Where would Housh fit in? How much will he be asking for considering he'd be the team's #3 WR but could very well end up being a starter if Q or Mason went down? How long would it take him to grasp the playbook?

It won't happen.

As for the TEs, even if Heap stayed in to block a play, Dickson and Pitta have the skills to line up at WR.

[pick6raven]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1283632701' post='464735']
Boldin, Mason, Clayton, Reed, Heap, Dickson, Pitta, and Rice out of the backfield. I'd say we are pretty stacked with targets for Joe to throw the ball too. I did have Williams in there but he was waived so I guess we'll just have to see what happens.

People were calling us one of the deepest teams in the league when Stallworth was healthy. So what we lose one guy and all of the sudden we don't have depth?

I dont think so
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well my friend last i checked we only added 2 proven free agents this offseason, and ones already hurt half the year n the others injury prone in a much more physical division than hes used to. n reed n the TEs are rookies n call me a hater but i seriously doubt they will have much production THIS year, hope im wrong. so if boldin gets hurt early,were back to square one, mason, clayton and were no longer a super bowl favorite with that anemic passing game.

[berad]

[quote name='pick6raven' timestamp='1283640836' post='464995']
well my friend last i checked we only added 2 proven free agents this offseason, and ones already hurt half the year n the others injury prone in a much more physical division than hes used to. n reed n the TEs are rookies n call me a hater but i seriously doubt they will have much production THIS year, hope im wrong. so if boldin gets hurt early,were back to square one, mason, clayton and were no longer a super bowl favorite with that anemic passing game.
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Our passing offense was actually decent last year, not 'anemic', we were tied for 12th best in the NFL. This season, with the further improvement of Joe Flacco, the comfort of players in Cameron's scheme, and (despite what you say) more weapons it should be that much better.

I don't know why you're being so pessimistic. 'Square One' in terms of the Harbaugh-era is a lot different than 'square one' of the Billick teams.

[Clutch Ravens]

The equipment manager would be against it.

[JEEPercreepermd]

[quote name='pick6raven' timestamp='1283640836' post='464995']
well my friend last i checked we only added 2 proven free agents this offseason, and ones already hurt half the year n the others injury prone in a much more physical division than hes used to. n reed n the TEs are rookies n call me a hater but i seriously doubt they will have much production THIS year, hope im wrong. so if boldin gets hurt early,were back to square one, mason, clayton and were no longer a super bowl favorite with that anemic passing game.
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The Ravens had a ton of production offensively last year. We had once again one of the top rushing offenses coupled with a passing offense that finished just out of the top 10. Cam Cameron has even gone so far as to say that it was almost a miracle that Joe was even able to finish the season with the kind of injuries and pain that he was in. He still finished with great numbers.

Also, we rode Mason and Clayton to the AFC Championship game two years ago and to the Divisional round last year. They'll do it again if they have to. Do you expect the Ravens to have pro bowlers just lined up behind Boldin? They have ONE lined up behind Boldin and Clayton who will be a beast as a #3 receiver. Factor Rice and Heap into the passing game as well..so there you go 6 of one and a half dozen of the other. It just depends on how you want to look at it. lighten up, they will be fine!!!!