My Fantasy Team

[BrownsFan]

So after reading around this thread I figured I'll share my team and collect thoughts. I don't typically take FF too seriously and rarely ever trade but feel like I actually got a pretty decent team this year in my money league. Our league is similar to most other leagues with the exception that you can only keep your keepers for 2 full seasons.. after that you have to either trade them or relinquish them to the pool.

I was fortunate enough during last season to get a stellar trade; had to get rid of Adrian Peterson and there were other lesser players involved but in the end I wound up getting Chris Johnson and Calvin Johnson in return. So without further ado here is my team:


[u][b]Starters[/b][/u]

QB: Eli Manning
RB: Chris Johnson (keeper)
RB: Ryan Grant
WR: Larry Fitzgerald
WR: Calvin Johnson (keeper)
WR: Malcolm Floyd
TE: Zach Miller (OAK)
K: Rob Bironas
DEF: Vikings


[u][b]Bench[/b][/u]

QB: Matt Stafford
QB: Sam Bradford
QB: Vince Young
WR: Nate Washington
WR: Mohamed Massaquoi
RB: Joseph Addai (keeper)
RB: Jerome Harrison


So my thoughts are this.. first of all I am stacked at RB. I really like Joseph Addai and actually feel like Grant has to start above him. I am considering trading Addai or maybe Grant to somebody straight up for Philip Rivers. I do like Eli Manning a lot as well but if I can get Rivers I think that's a trade that has to be made.

I drafted Stafford to be my one week back-up and Bradford I just picked because incase he does light it up.. trade bait. Young has some potential trade value as well especially if he can get it going like he has in the past. As far as Massaquoi and Harrison they are slight homer picks I'll admit BUT they are also #1's on their team and to me that has great value.

As far as TE, K and DEF I don't see the point in keeping a backup for either of those spots.. sorry I know the Vikings are playing the Saints opening night but I am not benching the Vikings defense.

I'll welcome any thoughts/suggestions.

[PuRock]

Way too many QBs. What in the world are you going to do with 4 QB's when you can only start 1? Even if Bradford lights it up, he won't put up better stats then Manning. I could justify keeping 3 (a stretch) but not 4.

Larry is talented but Leinhart will straight up Ruin Fitzgerald this year. If Derek Anderson is in there, he throws nice jump balls and will help Fitzy. Your depth at WR is a little iffy. I do like Mossaquoi, Washington and Floyd as sleepers but as a consolidation effort is a poor bench.

Can't go wrong with your RBs. Solid picks. Grant is a workhorse on an explosive offense. Addai gets touchdowns and Harrison, well we'll see.

[Ed_Reed20]

Get rid of Bradford and VY and increase augment your WR and TE depth. That's my advice for you.

[BrownsFan]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1282668187' post='457270']
Way too many QBs. What in the world are you going to do with 4 QB's when you can only start 1? Even if Bradford lights it up, he won't put up better stats then Manning. I could justify keeping 3 (a stretch) but not 4.

Larry is talented but Leinhart will straight up Ruin Fitzgerald this year. If Derek Anderson is in there, he throws nice jump balls and will help Fitzy.

Can't go wrong with your RBs. Solid picks. Grant is a workhorse on an explosive offense. Addai gets touchdowns and Harrison, well we'll see.
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As far as the QBs go I was just bored and decided to draft others lol. I truly have no need for 4 I do agree and will wind up dumping them during the season.. I mainly picked them for trade bait possibilities and because I don't keep backup DEF or K on my squad.

[BrownsFan]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1282668647' post='457279']
Get rid of Bradford and VY and increase augment your WR and TE depth. That's my advice for you.
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This is where my thinking lies on this; agree on Bradford and again as I've said will ultimately dump him.. but I don't see the value in another TE. I can only start one and Miller is one of the better ones.. there really are not any other wonderful TEs in our league available and odds are they'll be there if something happened to Miller. I'd rather stockpile something I can maybe trade and get value for at a later time.

[lowrider]

Trade Fitzy. Try to get Roddy White. White gets so many looks and Matt Ryan is healthy this year. I expect big things from white. Fitzy has Matt "I belong on laguna beach and the Hills" Leinart. Leinart sucks at football. Plain and simple. Try to pick up Benard Berrian. See if you can get Arian Foster if you can

[BrownsFan]

[quote name='lowrider' timestamp='1282670848' post='457297']
Trade Fitzy. Try to get Roddy White. White gets so many looks and Matt Ryan is healthy this year. I expect big things from white. Fitzy has Matt "I belong on laguna beach and the Hills" Leinart. Leinart sucks at football. Plain and simple. Try to pick up Benard Berrian. See if you can get Arian Foster if you can
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I understand that Leinart is the potential starter for Arizona but I still don't see how you can trade Fitzgerald. He is still their #1 receiver and he can still catch a 5-yard pass and turn it into a 30-yard play. His numbers will probably lessen but I still see him as a hell of a WR this season.. especially if chucklehead Anderson plays.

[lowrider]

[quote name='BrownsFan' timestamp='1282671869' post='457302']
I understand that Leinart is the potential starter for Arizona but I still don't see how you can trade Fitzgerald. He is still their #1 receiver and he can still catch a 5-yard pass and turn it into a 30-yard play. His numbers will probably lessen but I still see him as a hell of a WR this season.. especially if chucklehead Anderson plays.
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The top receivers seem to rotate every year. Rarely do receivers maintain top level play consistently year in and year out. Which is why it was so amazing when Andre Johnson was the number one receiver two years in a row. Just because he is a talented receiver doesn't mean he will produce. A lot depends on quarterback.

I'm not saying he won't be good. He will probably get 1000 yards and like 6 tds but I honestly think Roddy White will have better production.

[BrownsFan]

True. I guess I just view Fitzgerald as someone that I wouldn't trade unless I had to. I mean I would have never traded Purple Jesus (Adrian Peterson) but I had to.. I was lucky to get two stellar players in return.

Compared to some teams I've had though it's nice to look at one and actually think I can win games lol.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='BrownsFan' timestamp='1282669178' post='457284']
This is where my thinking lies on this; agree on Bradford and again as I've said will ultimately dump him.. but I don't see the value in another TE. I can only start one and Miller is one of the better ones.. there really are not any other wonderful TEs in our league available and odds are they'll be there if something happened to Miller. I'd rather stockpile something I can maybe trade and get value for at a later time.
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Do you really anticipate Stafford or Young netting you quality players in trade at some point this season though?

As for having another TE, wouldn't you like to be as competitive as possible when Miller has his bye?

[lowrider]

[quote name='BrownsFan' timestamp='1282672696' post='457325']
True. I guess I just view Fitzgerald as someone that I wouldn't trade unless I had to. I mean I would have never traded Purple Jesus (Adrian Peterson) but I had to.. I was lucky to get two stellar players in return.

Compared to some teams I've had though it's nice to look at one and actually think I can win games lol.
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Yeah your starters are pretty sick. I'm not a Fitzy guy but as a number two WR how can you go wrong with him. (Or number one depending how you look Fitzy and Megatron). Eli will limp behind your team but I think as a whole your team is good. Depth hurts a little. Jerome Harrison is hated by the FO of the Browns. They love Hardesty.

Addai to me sucks. Just because he has a terrible yards per carry average. He does get goalline carries but I have a feeling Donald Brown is going to get more carries this year. But thats just my opinion. Some people on this forum like Addai.

[brake]

did you think about bye weeks at all? you're going to be without a def/te/k at some point, maybe not all at once, i have not checked any of that but seems dumb to me...
not trying to be a jerk, this is actually the first season im participating in fantasy football so i do not know alot about it, my draft is this thursday tho

[PuRock]

[quote name='lowrider' timestamp='1282673249' post='457336']
Yeah your starters are pretty sick. I'm not a Fitzy guy but as a number two WR how can you go wrong with him. (Or number one depending how you look Fitzy and Megatron). Eli will limp behind your team but I think as a whole your team is good. Depth hurts a little. Jerome Harrison is hated by the FO of the Browns. They love Hardesty.

Addai to me sucks. Just because he has a terrible yards per carry average. He does get goalline carries but I have a feeling Donald Brown is going to get more carries this year. But thats just my opinion. Some people on this forum like Addai.
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I actually like Eli this year and think he will put up very good numbers for where he is getting drafted.

I'm on the fence with Addai some days he goes up my draft boards other days he goes down. I do like Donald Brown, he is just struggling to stay healthy and his style of running I could see him being injured on and off his entire career.

[lowrider]

[quote name='brake' timestamp='1282673493' post='457339']
did you think about bye weeks at all? you're going to be without a def/te/k at some point, maybe not all at once, i have not checked any of that but, seems dumb to me..
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Byes are not important in my opinion. Everyone is going to have to deal with them. Personally I wish I would have all my byes at once so I just lose one week and have my players the rest of the time. Byes are one week. Good players are a whole season. Good players>byes.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='brake' timestamp='1282673493' post='457339']
did you think about bye weeks at all? you're going to be without a def/te/k at some point, maybe not all at once, i have not checked any of that but, seems dumb to me..
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You can play add and drop kickers and DEFs based on match-ups but I always like to have a backup TE.

[BrownsFan]

[quote name='lowrider' timestamp='1282673249' post='457336']
Yeah your starters are pretty sick. I'm not a Fitzy guy but as a number two WR how can you go wrong with him. (Or number one depending how you look Fitzy and Megatron). Eli will limp behind your team but I think as a whole your team is good. Depth hurts a little. Jerome Harrison is hated by the FO of the Browns. They love Hardesty.

Addai to me sucks. Just because he has a terrible yards per carry average. He does get goalline carries but I have a feeling Donald Brown is going to get more carries this year. But thats just my opinion. Some people on this forum like Addai.
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Harrison *was* hated.. he's come on big-time since the offseason and is the clear #1 on the team right now. Hardesty could intervene on that during the season but right now Harrison is the starter and will start week 1 and get the bulk of the work.

Addai has been mixed for me as well which is why I'm considering a trade since I have CJ and Grant.

[PuRock]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1282673880' post='457349']
You can play add and drop kickers and DEFs based on match-ups but I always like to have a backup TE.
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If you play in a massive league like yours, then I agree about having a backup TE.

But if it is like a 12 team league there is no reason to have two TEs if you have one of the top guys. You won't be benching Stud TE any other week for TE 2. Wasted talent on the bench for just a bye week.

So I sort of agree with Brownsfan about not needing a backup TE. What I don't agree is that he's using this strategy with Zach Miller as his only guy. Miller might put up some great numbers, he has that upside. But I think if you draft Miller you probably want to get another one of those tier 3 guys like Winslow, Cooley even Gresham.

[PuRock]

[quote name='BrownsFan' timestamp='1282674239' post='457353']
Harrison *was* hated.. he's come on big-time since the offseason and is the clear #1 on the team right now. Hardesty could intervene on that during the season but right now Harrison is the starter and will start week 1 and get the bulk of the work.
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It's good to have a Browns fan view on the running situation.

Speaking of which, what do you think of Mossagui (don't harp on me for the botched spelling) this year? Will he still be the #1 guy?

[BrownsFan]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1282674390' post='457354']
If you play in a massive league like yours, then I agree about having a backup TE.

But if it is like a 12 team league there is no reason to have two TEs if you have one of the top guys. You won't be benching Stud TE any other week for TE 2. Wasted talent on the bench for just a bye week.

So I sort of agree with Brownsfan about not needing a backup TE. What I don't agree is that he's using this strategy with Zach Miller as his only guy. Miller might put up some great numbers, he has that upside. But I think if you draft Miller you probably want to get another one of those tier 3 guys like Winslow, Cooley even Gresham.
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No Zach Miller love on this forum apparently!

I see your point though.. feel like Miller will do just fine this year with Mr. Average Jason Campbell as his field general.

[BrownsFan]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1282674496' post='457355']
It's good to have a Browns fan view on the running situation.

Speaking of which, what do you think of Mossagui (don't harp on me for the botched spelling) this year? Will he still be the #1 guy?
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Massaquoi sir! No other botching will be done..

He's the #1 guy indeed and him and Robiskie have actually shown considerable improvement this offseason. I don't see them putting up stellar Fitzgerald/Johnson type numbers but I think people will be surprised at how good they might be. Delhomme is playing solid and effective which is something Cleveland has lacked almost every year since they returned.

[PuRock]

[quote name='BrownsFan' timestamp='1282674550' post='457357']
No Zach Miller love on this forum apparently!

I see your point though.. feel like Miller will do just fine this year with Mr. Average Jason Campbell as his field general.
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There is plenty of love for Zach Miller. I am very high on him. But I still won't lump him with Clark, Gates or Davis. Still think its a safe bet to carry two TE's if you have Zach.

But if you feel comfortable enough with Zach Miller, I really don't see it as an issue if you only carry one TE.

[lowrider]

[quote name='BrownsFan' timestamp='1282674239' post='457353']
Harrison *was* hated.. he's come on big-time since the offseason and is the clear #1 on the team right now. Hardesty could intervene on that during the season but right now Harrison is the starter and will start week 1 and get the bulk of the work.

Addai has been mixed for me as well which is why I'm considering a trade since I have CJ and Grant.
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Interesting. I could have sworn I read that the FO was not happy with Harrison but I did just read up on him, and he has played well in the preseason. Personally I don't understand what the guy has to do to be liked. He did real well at the end of last season and he doesn't get respect (and I have him on one of my teams and hope he plays well )

Grant and CJ are very very good. Addai wouldn't be a bad to trade. Maybe try to get Arian Foster for him. Fosters value won't be lower than it is now.

[BrownsFan]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1282674709' post='457361']
There is plenty of love for Zach Miller. I am very high on him. But I still won't lump him with Clark, Gates or Davis. Still think its a safe bet to carry two TE's if you have Zach.

But if you feel comfortable enough with Zach Miller, I really don't see it as an issue if you only carry one TE.
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Yes there is plenty of love indeed.. I just have to give you crap whenever I can. I think he's sufficient enough personally there's only a handful of TEs that will score huge numbers and I believe I have enough out of my other starters that I can be a bit weaker in the TE spot and still win.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='BrownsFan' timestamp='1282674550' post='457357']
No Zach Miller love on this forum apparently!

I see your point though.. feel like Miller will do just fine this year with Mr. Average Jason Campbell as his field general.
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I'm high on Miller and actually own him in both my leagues. Like Pu said though, another TE you could rely is recommended.

[PuRock]

[quote name='BrownsFan' timestamp='1282674655' post='457360']
Massaquoi sir! No other botching will be done..

He's the #1 guy indeed and him and Robiskie have actually shown considerable improvement this offseason. I don't see them putting up stellar Fitzgerald/Johnson type numbers but I think people will be surprised at how good they might be. Delhomme is playing solid and effective which is something Cleveland has lacked almost every year since they returned.
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I'll remember to spell it out from now on. Or we can just nickname him Mogwai from Gremlins.

I liked Massaquoi at the end of last season with bums throwing him the ball. He is getting drafted very late or not at all in most leagues. For the value you can get him at, I think Massaquoi is great. But there isn't much coverage on the Browns WRs to know what the deal is.

[BrownsFan]

[quote name='lowrider' timestamp='1282674781' post='457363']
Interesting. I could have sworn I read that the FO was not happy with Harrison but I did just read up on him, and he has played well in the preseason. Personally I don't understand what the guy has to do to be liked. He did real well at the end of last season and he doesn't get respect (and I have him on one of my teams and hope he plays well )

Grant and CJ are very very good. Addai wouldn't be a bad to trade. Maybe try to get Arian Foster for him. Fosters value won't be lower than it is now.
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They initially weren't happy because he was threatening to hold out for a new deal but that didn't really blossom into anything.. he came to camp and has played and put it all behind him. Hardesty will turn out to be a great #2 RB but with him being injured and just getting back to practice it's the Harrison (or "Ghost") show at the moment and he's done well.

[lowrider]

[quote name='BrownsFan' timestamp='1282674801' post='457364']
Yes there is plenty of love indeed.. I just have to give you crap whenever I can. I think he's sufficient enough personally there's only a handful of TEs that will score huge numbers and I believe I have enough out of my other starters that I can be a bit weaker in the TE spot and still win.
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Campbell likes TE's. And Zach Miller is his best target. Zach Miller was solid even with Jamarcus was there. I expect him to have good numbers.

[BrownsFan]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1282674841' post='457366']
I'll remember to spell it out from now on. Or we can just nickname him Mogwai from Gremlins.

I liked Massaquoi at the end of last season with bums throwing him the ball. He is getting drafted very late or not at all in most leagues. For the value you can get him at, I think Massaquoi is great. But there isn't much coverage on the Browns WRs to know what the deal is.
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I like the Mogwai nickname. Mogwai it is.

I think Browns fan persona aside.. he's a #1 receiver and has to have *some* value.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='BrownsFan' timestamp='1282674978' post='457369']
I like the Mogwai nickname. Mogwai it is.

I think Browns fan persona aside.. he's a #1 receiver and has to have *some* value.
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Have any Browns WRs stepped up to take pressure off Massaquoi though?

[lowrider]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1282675194' post='457370']
Have any Browns WRs stepped up to take pressure off Massaquoi though?
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Well he did say *some* value. Not a lot of value. Massaquoi might an ok player. Especially if Delhomme keeps playing solid in the preseason.