Gooden To Safety?

[JEEPercreepermd]

Ok, so lately I've been hearing more and more talk of the Ravens possibly moving Gooden to safety.

After what I saw out of Gooden last season, he wasn't impressive at ILB. I wouldn't be opposed to it, it seems like Mclain and Ellerbe are more cut out to play that position. Gooden definitely has enough speed, and would have great size for a Safety.

What do you guys and girls think? good idea, not a good idea?

[1/28/01]

[quote name='JEEPercreepermd' timestamp='1282234901' post='454224']
Ok, so lately I've been hearing more and more talk of the Ravens possibly moving Gooden to safety.

After what I saw out of Gooden last season, he wasn't impressive at ILB. I wouldn't be opposed to it, it seems like Mclain and Ellerbe are more cut out to play that position. Gooden definitely has enough speed, and would have great size for a Safety.

What do you guys and girls think? good idea, not a good idea?
[/quote]
Horrible idea.....he'd be too slow (he's a fast LB, but would be a medicore safety as far speed is concerned) and we have great depth at safety now.

[Milton145]

Link to your source?

[Gtown Purple]

We already have a log jam at safety, he would just muddy the pool further.

[Perfekt]

personally i would rather try him at corner back and see what he can produce. im not saying that it will work but its worth a try to add depth.

[d-macravfan]

it seems like a possability but i think harb. ought to test gooden extensively allow the teams coaches to test him and then discuss it if he really looks good there then go, it opens the chance for some other safetys to drop to cb. and aloow fop depth there.

[edreedfromtheu]

[quote name='JEEPercreepermd' timestamp='1282234901' post='454224']
Ok, so lately I've been hearing more and more talk of the Ravens possibly moving Gooden to safety.

After what I saw out of Gooden last season, he wasn't impressive at ILB. I wouldn't be opposed to it, it seems like Mclain and Ellerbe are more cut out to play that position. Gooden definitely has enough speed, and would have great size for a Safety.

What do you guys and girls think? good idea, not a good idea?
[/quote]

And where did you hear this? I mean... this belongs on the COME ON, MAN segment on Monday Night Countdown.

[JEEPercreepermd]

[quote name='edreedfromtheu' timestamp='1282238298' post='454262']
And where did you hear this? I mean... this belongs on the COME ON, MAN segment on Monday Night Countdown.
[/quote]
Not Really, I was listening to Bruce Cunningham on 105.7. He was talking about how some sources said that Gooden is going to get some looks at Safety after public practices are over.
Bruce has cred

[d-macravfan]

corner could be a good spot also however, he would need to cut 15 or so pounds to increse speed and stamina for long distance and constant running

[d-macravfan]

ravens really should have gotten then a good corner either in free agency or atleast the sec. round of the draft

[TSizzle00]

I used him as a strong safety on Madden, he worked well. But thats a video game.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='d-macravfan' timestamp='1282238648' post='454268']
ravens really should have gotten then a good corner either in free agency or atleast the sec. round of the draft
[/quote]
Right, cause they knew that Foxworth would go down...

Stop questioning the FO and Ozzie people.

We have Washington, Webb, Carr and Williams after two games!

We're okay!

[JEEPercreepermd]

[quote name='d-macravfan' timestamp='1282238648' post='454268']
ravens really should have gotten then a good corner either in free agency or atleast the sec. round of the draft
[/quote]
First of all, this doesn't have anything to do with the topic of the tread.

Second, I'll pose this a question who was available?

All of the decent CB's available in the 1st round were taken so Ozzie traded out of the first round and picked up a high second round pick, and he also got his third and fourth round picks back (originally lost 3rd and 4th to arizona in the boldin deal).
The best players available were Cody and Kindle..both would have been 1st round picks any other year.

The point is, there wasn't anyone available via the draft that the Ravens were interested in, or was good enough to justify Ozzie picking them over Kindle or Cody. So, no the Ravens SHOULDN'T have drafted a CB.

At the end of the day look at it this way.
Ozzie trades a 3rd and 4th to Arizona and gets the Receiver we need. When the Cowgirls took Dez Bryant in the 1st round Ozzie had no more reason to keep his first, so he traded out of the first round and was able to still take the best players available (who also filled needs at two positions on defense) so there's 3 positions he filled with top grade talent while not losing ANY draft picks. Oh btw he also was able to sign Stallworth for CHEAP, and pick up two TE's in the draft as well.

Sorry, but the entire team doesn't revolve around the CB position, and there have been plenty of Super Bowl teams who won it despite not having pro bowl corners.
The Ravens have had years where they were TOP 3 in pass defense and still didn't win the Super Bowl. This is a team sport and they will have to win as a TEAM now more than ever.

[cityboy02]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1282239366' post='454271']
Right, cause they knew that Foxworth would go down...

Stop questioning the FO and Ozzie people.

We have Washington, Webb, Carr and Williams after two games!

We're okay!
[/quote]
i agree were fine

[Perfekt]

jeep we dont agree much but im with you on this one.

[DrMoonTooth]

Gooden as a safety is a strange idea. Even if this rumor is valid, what is its purpose? We're deep at both safety and linebacker.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='DrMoonTooth' timestamp='1282240295' post='454284']
Gooden as a safety is a strange idea. Even if this rumor is valid, what is its purpose? We're deep at both safety and linebacker.
[/quote]
yeah, Im just as confused as you are.

And to those who mentioned CB - HA!!!

[DrMoonTooth]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1282240413' post='454285']
yeah, Im just as confused as you are.

And to those who mentioned CB - HA!!!
[/quote]
I have a hard time believing this has any credibility, even with Cunningham talking about it. I agree. CB is an insane idea. Gooden is listed at 242 lbs. He'd have to lose 35+ pounds to even be considered a corner. NO way is that happening.

[ed.s52]

People you need to understand, we don't need inexperience and more depth at corner. We have some capable players (Fab, Webb, Carr, Fisher,Williams). Rumors are we might try to trade for a #3 or 4 in case of injury but the idea that Gooden could be anything less than our #8 is laughable.

[PuRock]

[quote name='JEEPercreepermd' timestamp='1282238420' post='454264']
Not Really, I was listening to Bruce Cunningham on 105.7. He was talking about how some sources said that Gooden is going to get some looks at Safety after public practices are over.
Bruce has cred
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I heard that a few days on the Bruce show as well. But I am unsure how credible the information he had was. It's not out of the realm of possibility that he could play at the safety position. I saw on a lot of Miami U boards suggestions of using Gooden as a safety. The guy is a great athlete, and sometimes that can translate into safety success.

[Perfekt]

Its the preseason so why not try him at different positions. We should try out different things while it doesnt count that way we can get a idea of what we could have to fill in holes if something where to happen.

[Dan The Man Ravens #1 Fan]

[quote name='d-macravfan' timestamp='1282238463' post='454265']
corner could be a good spot also however, he would need to cut 15 or so pounds to increse speed and stamina for long distance and constant running
[/quote]

This has got to be the silliest statement I have heard today. Thanks for the chuckle.

[ooo sugahhh 52]

he spent his entire rookie year on IR (pretty sure) and he played last season, not everyone progresses at the same speed, you gotta give him time to develop at his position, until then we have elerbe and mcclain

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='ooo sugahhh 52' timestamp='1282247373' post='454358']
he spent his entire rookie year on IR (pretty sure) and he played last season, not everyone progresses at the same speed, you gotta give him time to develop at his position, until then we have elerbe and mcclain
[/quote]

He played in 4 games before getting hurt his rookie year and has battled injuries while not being very impressive since then. I'm personally not ready to give up on him but look at Zibby who was selected in the same round as him. After stepping up in Ed's absence last season, he put in the work this past off-season to come in and win a job. Not saying Gooden hasn't done that but he needs to step up.

[flynismo]

Gooden to safety actually may not be a bad move. We're stacked at LB, and other than Reed and to an extent Landry, we have a lot of potential but no proven players behind them. I wouldnt mind seeing what Gooden can contribute, you never know, we may be pleasantly surprised.

[flynismo]

Oh, and sorry, Gooden to CB is ridiculous. I hope that was a joke.

[JEEPercreepermd]

Either way I think he needs to get better. Safety, LB, whatever he needs to step it up.

I mean, if he translates to the Safety position, why not? If it DOESN'T work and he's not performing up to par at ILB, he may not have many more chances to show what he's got

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1282249215' post='454377']
Gooden to safety actually may not be a bad move. We're stacked at LB, [b]and other than Reed and to an extent Landry, we have a lot of potential but no proven players behind them.[/b] I wouldnt mind seeing what Gooden can contribute, you never know, we may be pleasantly surprised.
[/quote]

I'd say the safety position is pretty strong. He doesn't have as long a track record as them but Zibby has made a believer out of me. The dude is a gamer. Nakamura is rangy and a good hitter for someone his size. Hamlin isn't a playmaker but he's proven he can play in this league.

[kagejb]

We got a pretty good group of safeties right now. Why add another potential guy when he can do so much more immediate damage as a LB than as a safety?

[flynismo]

[quote name='kagejb' timestamp='1282251020' post='454418']<br />We got a pretty good group of safeties right now. Why add another potential guy when he can do so much more immediate damage as a LB than as a safety?<br />[/quote]


Because we have yet to see him dish out this damage that you speak of?