QB Beck Traded to Redskins for CB Dutch

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Wacko4Zacko' date='02 August 2010 - 01:14 PM' timestamp='1280769262' post='443018']
Is this CB even good?
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He's practice squad fodder. The team wasn't going to get much for Beck.

[MiselisM]

"When you get traded, another team is saying we want you," Beck said.

Great attitude. Hopefully Shanny can make something out of him in Washington. I guess Rex, nor Colt are impressing the staff?

[MiselisM]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='02 August 2010 - 12:18 PM' timestamp='1280769489' post='443029']
He's practice squad fodder. The team wasn't going to get much for Beck.
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Here is a quote I got out of NFLFanHouse " Dutch was actually recruited as a WR, played there until Sr. year, then moved to CB. He's undersized but can fly."

[edreedfromtheu]

[quote name='PuRock' date='02 August 2010 - 01:07 PM' timestamp='1280768861' post='443006']
That's the problem. All free agent CB's have leverage with us right now. So working out a deal with any free agents will take longer than expected for the mere fact that we don't want to get hosed. The same goes for any possible bigger trades.

In this case we skip past all that and get this guy in training camp tomorrow to practice. I know I sound like a broken record on this point.
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The Colts signed Deshea Townsend. Frank Walker has no leverage, no matter what circumstances there are around the league. You have to have some sort of talent before you can have any leverage. And Frank Walker hasn't shown anything to prove he has NFL talent. Can't cover, can't tackle, and even when he does(by mistake) happen to be in the right place... he's built such a bad reputation that the officials will throw a flag every time no matter what happened.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='edreedfromtheu' date='02 August 2010 - 01:24 PM' timestamp='1280769896' post='443040']
The Colts signed Deshea Townsend. Frank Walker has no leverage, no matter what circumstances there are around the league. You have to have some sort of talent before you can have any leverage. And Frank Walker hasn't shown anything to prove he has NFL talent. Can't cover, can't tackle, and even when he does(by mistake) happen to be in the right place... he's built such a bad reputation that the officials will throw a flag every time no matter what happened.
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Frank looked pretty good to me in the play-offs last season. Or are we pretending those games didn't happen?

[AwakenTheDemon]

[quote name='T-ray' date='02 August 2010 - 11:48 AM' timestamp='1280767699' post='442958']
Heck, Frank Walker was drafted into their league and turned them down, but Dutch tried to get into their league and was turned down by them??? Lets bring Frank back, please.
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That doesn't mean Walker is too good for the UFL. It just means he doesn't [i]want[/i] to play for the UFL. Also, the UFL Draft doesn't work the same way as the NFL. When Walker was "drafted" all it meant was that [i]if[/i] Walker were to play in the UFL, he'd have to play for the team he was "drafted" to.

More depth is never a bad thing for corners, anyone who thought we'd get Hall or even Rodgers for Beck was just being silly. I'm sure this won't be the only move Ozzie makes if he really thinks we need that much help at corner this year.

[bobs4g3t]

This is extremely insignificant. This guy probably won't even make the final roster. This isn't worth a 5 page thread.

[Runnin Raven]

This frees up a little cash doesn't it?

[darklight1216]

[quote name='bobs4g3t' date='02 August 2010 - 01:35 PM' timestamp='1280770514' post='443067']
This is extremely insignificant. [b]This guy probably won't even make the final roster.[/b] This isn't worth a 5 page thread.
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That's what I was thinking too and it makes me wonder if Beck was on the cutting block as well.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Runnin Raven' date='02 August 2010 - 01:42 PM' timestamp='1280770934' post='443073']
This frees up a little cash doesn't it?
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Beck's contract was only worth $1.101 million.

[Runnin Raven]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='02 August 2010 - 01:43 PM' timestamp='1280771023' post='443075']
Beck's contract was only worth $1.101 million.
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That's a lotta cash to me, LOL.

I'm gonna say it...I'm not averse to bringing Frank back. *ducks*

[Pääjärvi]

[quote name='PuRock' date='02 August 2010 - 01:03 PM' timestamp='1280768621' post='442996']
Beck has ZERO trade value. The Ravens were probably deciding on cutting him anyways. They pulled the trigger to get somebody who's contract is probably small and already worked out.

If somebody's QB goes down in TC. They will probably be contacting us for Smith first.
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First use of logic in this thread. Congrats

[PuRock]

The Redskins apparently have already cut Colt Brennan. That was quick.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='PuRock' date='02 August 2010 - 02:29 PM' timestamp='1280773798' post='443121']
The Redskins apparently have already cut Colt Brennan. That was quick.
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He and Troy are/were in the same position. Both saw former starters brought in to back-up the starter and seem to be overvalued by fans.

[JEEPercreepermd]

This is pretty simple, the Ravens made their decision that Beck was going to be the odd man out, so they got something for him instead of just cutting him.

Dutch isn't going to make the roster, probably not even the practice squad so just calm down people. He's just a body that they need to practice

[Ravenmore74]

There is light at the end of the tunnel for Beck. In Washington he has chance to be number 2 and see some time on the field. With us there was no way he was going to start over Flacco or Bulgar and Smith is a very specialized QB that is good to have on the roster.

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[quote name='Ravenmore74' date='02 August 2010 - 09:06 PM' timestamp='1280797598' post='443416']
There is light at the end of the tunnel for Beck. In Washington he has chance to be number 2 and see some time on the field. With us there was no way he was going to start over Flacco or Bulgar and Smith is a very specialized QB that is good to have on the roster.
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Just curious how Smith is a "specialized" QB? Just kidding group.....not going to start this again!

[Ravenmore74]

[quote name='1/28/01' date='02 August 2010 - 09:19 PM' timestamp='1280801971' post='443456']
Just curious how Smith is a "specialized" QB? Just kidding group.....not going to start this again!
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He scrambles well in the pocket, and is used for the wildcat along with many other trick plays.
He is basically a younger version of Michael Vick and there are only a handful of players like that...

[Token]

[quote name='Ravenmore74' date='02 August 2010 - 09:43 PM' timestamp='1280803410' post='443483']
He scrambles well in the pocket, and is used for the wildcat along with many other trick plays.
He is basically a younger version of Michael Vick and there are only a handful of players like that...
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I wouldn't say a younger version, probably a poor man's Vick.

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[quote name='Ravenmore74' date='02 August 2010 - 10:43 PM' timestamp='1280803410' post='443483']
He scrambles well in the pocket, and is used for the wildcat along with many other trick plays.
He is basically a younger version of Michael Vick and there are only a handful of players like that...
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And.........here we go!

He scambles for [i]<nothing>[/i] and requires us to call a time out every "wild cat" play. And PLEASE do not refer to him as a younger Mike Vick. They're not even close to each other when its comes to athleticism and football talent!

By "trick plays", do you mean the one successful play to Flacco 2 years ago? Ugh.....

[Alexir]

I really do not give a dam who the 3rd string QB is. Troy Smith isn't Willie Beaman and John Beck was just Cam's little project.

Just wish we could of gotten someone with a little bit of potential. This Dutch guy sounds like he will be cut in a matter of weeks.

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[quote name='Token' date='02 August 2010 - 10:47 PM' timestamp='1280803627' post='443486']
I wouldn't say a younger version, probably a poor man's Vick.
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The only "Vickish" thing about Smith is his lack of accuracy.

[Ravenmore74]

[quote name='Token' date='02 August 2010 - 09:47 PM' timestamp='1280803627' post='443486']
I wouldn't say a younger version, probably a poor man's Vick.
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When he is out on the field he makes an effort, but in real terms without weapons he would be useless because he can't create offense by himself.

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[quote name='Alexir' date='02 August 2010 - 10:50 PM' timestamp='1280803849' post='443493']
I really do not give a dam who the 3rd string QB is. Troy Smith isn't Willie Beaman and John Beck was just Cam's little project.

Just wish we could of gotten someone with a little bit of potential. This Dutch guy sounds like he will be cut in a matter of weeks.
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He probably will be, probably being the operative word. Beck, more than likely, would have been odd man out and Ozzie did what he should have done. What do you propose we should have received for a 4th string QB?

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Ravenmore74' date='02 August 2010 - 10:52 PM' timestamp='1280803964' post='443496']
He is not no "Cadillac" if that what your referring too..
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What?

[1/28/01]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='02 August 2010 - 11:12 PM' timestamp='1280805168' post='443517']
What?
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I was waiting for someone else to ask, because I feel like I'm always picking on Rmore74.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='1/28/01' date='02 August 2010 - 11:16 PM' timestamp='1280805375' post='443522']
I was waiting for someone else to ask, because I feel like I'm always picking on Rmore74.
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I feel like that too but...

*shakes head*

[ed.s52]

Maybe he becomes the corner that steps up this season?

[tsmith1033]

who cares troy smith has steped up big when hes got the chance, i feel that he should still be the ravens number 2 not bulger

[1/28/01]

[quote name='tsmith1033' date='02 August 2010 - 11:35 PM' timestamp='1280806512' post='443547']
who cares troy smith has steped up big when hes got the chance, i feel that he should still be the ravens number 2 not bulger
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When in the world has he stepped up big? Please enlighten us...