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[PuRock]

[quote name='Wacko4Zacko' date='03 August 2010 - 11:11 AM' timestamp='1280848280' post='443741']
I guess Rodgers value goes up a whole lot more.
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Why's that Wacko? He's on a different team? If anything his value goes down because he'll have to play the Vikings twice a year and it probably won't be a shootout.

[PuRock]

[quote name='FlaccoFlicker' date='03 August 2010 - 11:14 AM' timestamp='1280848447' post='443746']
lol maybe I should pick up TJ then
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That guy is a bum and a bust. I wouldn't be surprised if they go with Sage Rosenfel instead (I'm unsure if he's still on their team).

[Wacko4Zacko]

Matt Ryan is up for trade .

[PuRock]

[quote name='Wacko4Zacko' date='03 August 2010 - 11:15 AM' timestamp='1280848515' post='443750']
Matt Ryan is up for trade .
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Who isn't up for trade on your team?

[FlaccoFlicker]

Forsett for Ryan?

[Wacko4Zacko]

[quote name='PuRock' date='03 August 2010 - 11:14 AM' timestamp='1280848460' post='443747']
Why's that Wacko? He's on a different team? If anything his value goes down because he'll have to play the Vikings twice a year and it probably won't be a shootout.
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Well every QB value goes up because now people can't say. "Oh I can wait and get Favre in Rd 3 or 4" They either get a QB early or they wait and get a average QB like Ryan, Palme,r Stafford, Cutler, Sanchez. .

Good news is that this raises Flacco value a bit because now he gets picked before Favre. lolz

[FlaccoFlicker]

so I am taking QB offers I guess lol ,not sure how Mcnabb will be in Wash,and Henne was ok last year

[Wacko4Zacko]

FF what is your team name again?

[FlaccoFlicker]

Team Griffin

[PuRock]

[quote name='FlaccoFlicker' date='03 August 2010 - 11:33 AM' timestamp='1280849615' post='443776']
Team Griffin
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Uh Oh ....you've opened the floodgates of trade offers.

[FlaccoFlicker]

[quote name='PuRock' date='03 August 2010 - 11:36 AM' timestamp='1280849763' post='443782']
Uh Oh ....you've opened the floodgates of trade offers.
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lol with Henne and McNabb i may need to look into another QB,and no he can't have Mason

[Wacko4Zacko]

Daarn it.....Curse this world.

[FlaccoFlicker]

lemme think on it for a few Wacko

[FlaccoFlicker]

um wacko why did you take trade down?

[PuRock]

[quote name='FlaccoFlicker' date='03 August 2010 - 11:37 AM' timestamp='1280849839' post='443784']
lol with Henne and McNabb i may need to look into another QB,and no he can't have Mason
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Mason in this league isn't worth as much. Remember this is a non ppr league. Mason is most relevant in ppr leagues where he gets a point for reception. Mason won't wow you with yardage or touchdowns. He makes his wave with receptions.

[PuRock]

Now it is being reported that Pierre Thomas injured his wrist during camp today.

[WinnipegRaven]

wrong thread...

[Wacko4Zacko]

Looks like my team isn't the only misfortunate one.

[Romo Ravens]

[i]Now[/i] the thread will start to heat back up again lol. I actually think that this will hurt AP's stats next year as well. His YPC might go back up, but all defenses will have to do is stack the box. They have the 22nd hardest schedule for a RB fantasy-wise, that's tough. Could we be looking at Ray Rice being the top fantasy back this year if CJ doesn't repeat? MJD is on a bad team, and all defenses have to do is stop the run, much like those who play against the Vikings. Rice has the 14th hardest schedule, not that bad.

[lowrider]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' date='03 August 2010 - 02:38 PM' timestamp='1280860690' post='443929']
[i]Now[/i] the thread will start to heat back up again lol. I actually think that this will hurt AP's stats next year as well. His YPC might go back up, but all defenses will have to do is stack the box. They have the 22nd hardest schedule for a RB fantasy-wise, that's tough. Could we be looking at Ray Rice being the top fantasy back this year if CJ doesn't repeat? MJD is on a bad team, and all defenses have to do is stop the run, much like those who play against the Vikings. Rice has the 14th hardest schedule, not that bad.
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I agree with you 100% on that one. AP is going to have to face a lot more people in the box and that will hurt him. It will hurt that whole team. Rice could be the number two back. Offensive line is great and Flacco and Boldin will start to take people out of the box for Rice.

But MJD gets more goalline carries than Rice. Thats the only thing. So thats the reason why I like MJD more. And even if Chris Johnson doesn't repeat and gets like 1400 yards I think he is still the top back. But thats a lot of ifs and you never know how things will shake out.

[FlaccoFlicker]

Trying to update my trade block and it won't let me so Ill post here
Johnathan Stewart
Desean Jackson
Justin Forsett
Derrick Mason up for trade
Need
QB

[Romo Ravens]

[quote name='lowrider' date='03 August 2010 - 10:48 AM' timestamp='1280861311' post='443940']
I agree with you 100% on that one. AP is going to have to face a lot more people in the box and that will hurt him. It will hurt that whole team. Rice could be the number two back. Offensive line is great and Flacco and Boldin will start to take people out of the box for Rice.

But MJD gets more goalline carries than Rice. Thats the only thing. So thats the reason why I like MJD more. And even if Chris Johnson doesn't repeat and gets like 1400 yards I think he is still the top back. But thats a lot of ifs and you never know how things will shake out.
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I can't wait to see that Vikings team crash and burn lol. I don't like Childress (apparently a lot of Minny fans don't either), so watching them lose would be fun. AP has enough talent to actually beat seven man fronts, but the Vikings would go back to 350 touches, which will beat his body up.

As for MJD, he won't get a lot of pass yards coming his way. All defenses have to do is put a spy on him, something that can't be said for the Ravens. Rice will almost always be alone in the flats, which will benefit him in the best way. Chris Johnson escaped White's thievery last year, so who's to say Rice won't escape McGahee? I can see Rice being the number one back.

[PuRock]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' date='03 August 2010 - 02:38 PM' timestamp='1280860690' post='443929']
[i]Now[/i] the thread will start to heat back up again lol. I actually think that this will hurt AP's stats next year as well. His YPC might go back up, but all defenses will have to do is stack the box. They have the 22nd hardest schedule for a RB fantasy-wise, that's tough. Could we be looking at Ray Rice being the top fantasy back this year if CJ doesn't repeat? MJD is on a bad team, and all defenses have to do is stop the run, much like those who play against the Vikings. Rice has the 14th hardest schedule, not that bad.
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I disagree, AP's numbers were better before Brett Favre. Teams were stocking the box but couldn't stop him. AP needs attempts, he doesn't need the pass to open up the run. If Favre retires, AP will get his attempts back.

But I am in the camp that anybody can be the #1 back this year.

[lowrider]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' date='03 August 2010 - 03:05 PM' timestamp='1280862326' post='443956']
I can't wait to see that Vikings team crash and burn lol. I don't like Childress (apparently a lot of Minny fans don't either), so watching them lose would be fun. AP has enough talent to actually beat seven man fronts, but the Vikings would go back to 350 touches, which will beat his body up.

As for MJD, he won't get a lot of pass yards coming his way. All defenses have to do is put a spy on him, something that can't be said for the Ravens. Rice will almost always be alone in the flats, which will benefit him in the best way. Chris Johnson escaped White's thievery last year, so who's to say Rice won't escape McGahee? I can see Rice being the number one back.
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I don't mind the Vikings. I like how they play, physical and brutal. But then again, I live in Maryland and don't have to talk to their fans ever. Except I can't stand Jared Allen

A spy can only do so much, it didn't stop Rice. At least now they have Mike Sims Walker to spread the ball to in the passing game. Now the thing that hurts Rice is you have a pro bowler at every skill position on offense but qb. People will take tds and yards from Rice. That will hurt him. Lendale was fat and slow. McGahee is a much better number two back and a better compliment.

[JO_75]

[quote name='FlaccoFlicker' date='03 August 2010 - 02:54 PM' timestamp='1280861657' post='443945']
Trying to update my trade block and it won't let me so Ill post here
Johnathan Stewart
Desean Jackson
Justin Forsett
Derrick Mason up for trade
Need
QB
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Would you be interested in Carson Palmer, he is on my trading block.

Also I wouldn't release Favre yet, he may un-retire after you release him and someone else picks him up and has Favre as the starter. So you are doing the right thing finding a good QB but keep Favre on the roster as your backup until you know he's not playing.

Plus there are some good QBs in Free Agency, David Garrard, Kyle Orton, Jason Campbell, Vince Young, Sanchez, Matt Hasselback.

[FlaccoFlicker]

[quote name='JO_75' date='03 August 2010 - 03:43 PM' timestamp='1280864631' post='443985']
Would you be interested in Carson Palmer, he is on my trading block.

Also I wouldn't release Favre yet, he may un-retire after you release him and someone else picks him up and has Favre as the starter. So you are doing the right thing finding a good QB but keep Favre on the roster as your backup until you know he's not playing.

Plus there are some good QBs in Free Agency, David Garrard, Kyle Orton, Jason Campbell, Vince Young, Sanchez, Matt Hasselback.
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yeah i was going to hold onto brett in case
who would you be inclined to want for Palmer?

[PuRock]

[quote name='FlaccoFlicker' date='03 August 2010 - 04:34 PM' timestamp='1280867648' post='444008']
yeah i was going to hold onto brett in case
who would you be inclined to want for Palmer?
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I would hold onto Favre. Didn't you say you had McNabb and Henne as well. Those two should prove serviceable enough.

Favre might still come back. Don't overcrowd your roster with QBs.

[JO_75]

[quote name='FlaccoFlicker' date='03 August 2010 - 04:34 PM' timestamp='1280867648' post='444008']
yeah i was going to hold onto brett in case
who would you be inclined to want for Palmer?
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Take a look at my team, I have plenty of WRs that you could have if you need WRs, just take a look at my team and propose a trade

[Wacko4Zacko]

Can anyone else edit your Trading Block? Mine isn't letting me change mine and it either reset's it self or doesn't save my changes.

[ed.s52]

Firstly, the 22nd hardest schedule means that it should be easy for AP to run. I'm guessing you mean the 10th hardest schedule, and for Rice you mean the 18th hardest.

Secondly, I'm not to worried about the Vikings even if Favre doesn't come back. TJ really isn't too bad, and probably only got better from holding the clipboard, and AP should do so much better than last year. Also, you are all looking over the fact that the WR corps are so much better than when TJ originally led the team, and that should help him. Either way they are still a top 5 team in the NFC, even if now they are closer to 5 than 2.

And Lastly, Favre will probably come back. People seem to forget QB's rarely get hit compared to other positions, and they ussually don't get hit that hard. When they scramble they slide and/or run out of bounds, and when they are sacked they are ussually thrown down, go with the motion (therefore putting less force on their bodies), and considering the distance for the lineman to the Qb are not hit at full speed or as hard as RB's and WR's. And assuming the Vikings pay him more (I'm assuming in the area of 15 million dollars), he will make 30 million and have a legit Super Bowl chance.

Since I have both Harvin and Rice in this league I'm just hoping this all works out.