Suggs Lobbies For Ravens To Acquire T.O.

[JEEPercreepermd]

Reguardless of if any fans her want him or not, I think if Ozzie could get him signed to a Stallworth deal then he'd probably pull the trigger. Worst case scenario he starts causing trouble and they give him the boot or trade him to a team that may have an injury hole to fill

[ed.s52]

Like I said earlier, although I overexaggerated, TO would be a good signing if we didnt have Mason.

He wasn't much of a headache in Buffalo and actually produced decently for the situation he was in. I also think he realizes that teams know he isnt as good as he once was and may finally stop being a headache.

If you look at TO's career, most of his comments have been out of frustration, I think the media makes him look worse than he is, I think he is just a player who wants his oppurtunities and wants to win. I know he takes it too far sometimes and had some drama with McNabb, but thats in the past.

As far as I am concerned he was right, if Brett Favre did play through injury in the Super Bowl and carried his team he would be called a hero, regardless of who won, and I think TO deserves no less.

Mason and/or Boldin may need a rest during games at times, and I would much rather see TO in than Clayton, especially in a game defining moment (I mean if you think about it Clayton is a poor man's TO without the headache).

Worst case scenario is he messes up and we cut/trade him.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='ed.s52' date='18 July 2010 - 07:05 PM' timestamp='1279494330' post='434171']
Like I said earlier, although I overexaggerated, TO would be a good signing if we didnt have Mason.

He wasn't much of a headache in Buffalo and actually produced decently for the situation he was in. [b]I also think he realizes that teams know he isnt as good as he once was and may finally stop being a headache.[/b]

[b]If you look at TO's career, most of his comments have been out of frustration, I think the media makes him look worse than he is, I think he is just a player who wants his oppurtunities and wants to win. I know he takes it too far sometimes and had some drama with McNabb, but thats in the past.[/b]

As far as I am concerned he was right, if Brett Favre did play through injury in the Super Bowl and carried his team he would be called a hero, regardless of who won, and I think TO deserves no less.

Mason and/or Boldin may need a rest during games at times, and I would much rather see TO in than Clayton, especially in a game defining moment (I mean if you think about it Clayton is a poor man's TO without the headache).

Worst case scenario is he messes up and we cut/trade him.
[/quote]

T.O.'s skills have been on the decline for around 4 years now but that hasn't stopped him from sparking things up.

His comments being out of frustration is no excuse. Players get frustrated after losses all the time but don't make foolish comments. And while the media has over-covered him too much during the years, T.O. has had enough problems with different teammates to where I don't think you can say the media makes him look worse than he is.

[ed.s52]

Don't get me wrong, I still think he looks bad, but the media makes him look worse.

And if I'm wrong, we cut/trade him so its all said and done, and we move on.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='ed.s52' date='18 July 2010 - 07:14 PM' timestamp='1279494865' post='434174']
Don't get me wrong, I still think he looks bad, but the media makes him look worse.

And if I'm wrong, we cut/[b]trade[/b] him so its all said and done, and we move on.
[/quote]

He has [b]zero[/b] trade value.

[ed.s52]

He does for teams with injury issues and if he does at least something with us. And if not, we cut him.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='18 July 2010 - 06:35 PM' timestamp='1279496154' post='434178']
He has [b]zero[/b] trade value.
[/quote]

Then how about no gaurenteed money, cheap base salary with incentives, and if he messes up we cut him, if he underperforms we barely pay him. I think at this point, if he wants to play for a contender, he will accept a contract along those lines. Like $1 mill with the ability to make it $3.5 if he meets certain criteria.

But I think what it all comes down to, and I think most of us will be able to agree on it this way... If Ozzie wants him then so will I. If Ozzie doesnt (which up to this point is the case) than neither do I.

[RAVENS96]

It would be nice to have 4 legitimate Wr's Boldin, Mason, Stallworth and Owens and not relying on Williams or Clayton to be the #4, actual depth would be really nice, especially if Owens comes cheap.
Could you imagine that 4 wide set for Flacco !?

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='ed.s52' date='18 July 2010 - 07:56 PM' timestamp='1279497408' post='434183']
He does for teams with injury issues and if he does at least something with us. And if not, we cut him.
[/quote]

Even with injury issues, no one is going to trade for a WR turning 37 this year.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='18 July 2010 - 07:09 PM' timestamp='1279498191' post='434190']
Even with injury issues, no one is going to trade for a WR turning 37 this year.
[/quote]


Yea especially since there are several teams RIGHT NOW with WR issues that are not making a move for him (SD, Pitt, Car, Oak, Sea...) If they arent taking him right now without having to give anything up, I doubt they will in a couple months when theyd have to give up a pick.

[lgcs27288]

[quote name='BuckWilds' date='18 July 2010 - 03:35 AM' timestamp='1279438517' post='434035']
How in the world you took my joke post to mean I'm 'condoning treating a man like a dog' is beyond me. 50 people on this forum have seen how he destroys locker rooms and they realize we have enough talent in our wide receiver corps now. There's no need to bring in the guy that did all this and MORE:

> Called out Garcia on his sexual preference - under the bus you go!

> Wore a Dallas jersey to anger Philly while he was an Eagle

> While an Eagle he publicly stated he would not have signed with the Eagles if he could go back in time.

> Said he didn't give a smack what fans thought

> Said the Eagles would have been undefeated is they had Brett Favre instead of Donovan McNabb - under the bus you go!

> Referred to the Eagles as a classless organization for not worshiping him after his 100th career touchdown.

> Tried to off himself with Hydrocodone in 2006

> Spit in DeAngelo Hall's face after a play

> Threw Bill Parcels under the bus after he stopped coaching, saying he offered nothing to the team.

With respect, I'm unconcerned what you believe is 'getting old'. He [i][u]is[/u][/i] a locker room cancer. Truth is painful especially when people repeat it. The bleeding hearts for T.O. will never gain my support. He tore down all kinds of people for his own pleasure/desires.
[/quote]

Everything you mentioned is how old? People change.

I think T.O. would be a nice addition to our team. There is no salary cap so if he did get out of hand, (which I dont think he would), then we could just give him the boot. I would put him at 3rd receiver. We would just run more 3 wr packages.


I want T.O.!

[ed.s52]

If he performs with us and teams with WR issues have injuries, why would they not give up a 7th for him. If he doesnt do good enough, than just cut him.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='lgcs27288' date='18 July 2010 - 08:44 PM' timestamp='1279500255' post='434213']
Everything you mentioned is how old? People change.

I think T.O. would be a nice addition to our team. There is no salary cap so if he did get out of hand, (which I dont think he would), then we could just give him the boot. I would put him at 3rd receiver. We would just run more 3 wr packages.


[b]I want T.O.![/b]
[/quote]

Doesn't appear the Ravens have nay interest in him.

[quote name='ed.s52' date='18 July 2010 - 09:01 PM' timestamp='1279501302' post='434225']
If he performs with us and teams with WR issues have injuries, why would they not give up a 7th for him. If he doesnt do good enough, than just cut him.
[/quote]

Why would they give away a draft pick(even a 7th rounder) for a player that will be 37 in December? When was the last time that happened?

I just don't see the point in signing him when he'd likely be competing with Stallworth for slot duty. The belief is Cam will run more 3-wide sets this year but if the TEs come along well in pre-season, they'll warrant targets too. Only so many people can touch the football. Why sign a guy who may see one or two targets game and then complain about it?

[ed.s52]

I'm not saying that we should, just that it is a legit options, if anything for insurance for a Boldin or Mason injury (we all know our team like insurance based on the Bulger signing) and I think people knock on TO too much. Considering that Boldin hasnt played a full season for some time, having him wouldn't be too bad, although not having him wouldn't really affect us too much either.

Personally, I don't really care, but I just can't believe people think that if he comes in he is going to be a huge cancer and stop us from winning a Super Bowl.

[Alexir]

Why doesn't suggs worry about himself. The offense is fine. We need production from his underachieving butt.

[Marc2k6]

[quote name='Alexir' date='18 July 2010 - 09:53 PM' timestamp='1279504405' post='434275']
Why doesn't suggs worry about himself. The offense is fine. We need production from his underachieving butt.
[/quote]

Did you watch the NFL Live we are talking about?

[Alexir]

[quote name='Marc2k6' date='18 July 2010 - 10:01 PM' timestamp='1279504876' post='434277']
Did you watch the NFL Live we are talking about?
[/quote]


I saw one on NFL network, didnt see the espn one.

[ravensfan2424]

well just think, he was real show-boaty on good teams. Baltimore is already really good. So if we sign him he's gonna go back to his old ways and cost us a ton. Say N.O. to T.O.

[ravensdfan]

[quote name='lgcs27288' date='18 July 2010 - 07:44 PM' timestamp='1279500255' post='434213']
Everything you mentioned is how old? People change.

I think T.O. would be a nice addition to our team. There is no salary cap so if he did get out of hand, (which I dont think he would), then we could just give him the boot. I would put him at 3rd receiver. We would just run more 3 wr packages.


I want T.O.!
[/quote]

Yes, people can change but the Ravens have managed to avoid locker room drama and off field distractions for the most part recently. Why take a chance on someone with T.O.'s history in that regard with the receiving weapons we've already acquired?

As someone stated earlier, if Ozzie signs him, I'll support him but I do not comprehend why you want him so badly.

[BuckWilds]

[quote name='lgcs27288' date='18 July 2010 - 08:44 PM' timestamp='1279500255' post='434213']
Everything you mentioned is how old? People change.

I think T.O. would be a nice addition to our team. There is no salary cap so if he did get out of hand, (which I dont think he would), then we could just give him the boot. I would put him at 3rd receiver. We would just run more 3 wr packages.


I want T.O.!
[/quote]

Actually, people tend not to change. Personality tends to stay in motion in a particular direction unless something acts upon it - behavior physics, so to speak. But I'll bite on the idea: tell us the life altering events and spiritual enlightenment that have led Terrell Owens to revelation and to not being as poisonous to organization and teammates now compared to recent history. What makes you believe T.O. has changed from a face-spitting, franchise-disrespecting, teammate-under-the-bus-throwing, self-centered ego-maniac?

I'd like to have T.O.'s talent here in Baltimore too. Unfortunately he's an anchor in every other way for a team besides his talent. He was #4 in dropped passes last year, by the way. Stone hands and poison tongue don't give me, personally, a reason to bypass what talent is already on the Ravens roster.

To each his own opinion though...

[Perfekt]

TO may have been #4 in dropped passes but that goes back to the team that he was playing for. I believe if he was willing to come for a reasonable price then hes worth it. TO wasnt a cancer last year so why would he be one here. I really cant see him getting out of hand with the players we have on defense. I mean did you forget we have a golden glove, black belt an just for kicks ray can get you done ( just playing).


Seriously tho i cant see him acting up here cuz we wouldnt stand for it.

[1/28/01]

http://www.footballnewsnow.com/2010/agent-t-o-will-be-signed-within-next-few-weeks/

"Terrell Owens should be under contract by the time training camp opens or shortly there after.

Super agent Drew Rosenhaus told ESPN’s Adam Schefter that he is confident T.O. will have a new deal “within the next few weeks.”

While it’s still anybody’s guess as to where Owens will land, you can scratch a few teams off the list.

Owens will not be playing for the Washington Redskins, [b]Baltimore Ravens[/b], Kansas City Chiefs or San Diego Chargers."

Okay folks.......aint happening

[lowrider]

Although I kind of like the idea of TO coming to Baltimore I just don't think it is worth the risk. Even though I don't think he is as poisonous to a locker room like he used to be, I just think the impact TO would make talent wise isn't worth the risk of ruining such a great locker room.

Also people say they don't like all the hype we are getting and all the attention. Getting TO would only make it worse, just saying. And like 1/28/01 said, doesn't really matter, not going to happen anyway.

[Brendan Ayres]

This isn't going to happen, nor would I want it to. Why would anyone want to invite this kind of drama to our team? This is the first offseason I can remember where no one on the defense is complaining about the offense, people are staying out of trouble, no one is griping for a new contract, etc. This has been one of the most calm offseasons we've ever had, and now some people want to bring this Drama Queen into the fold? I don't get it.

[Shawn`]

Wow, with all the negativity here you would think that T.O came to each one of your houses at 3 A.M, woke you up with loud music just so you could watch him pee on your prized rose garden.

I mean seriously, it's just a football player.

[lowrider]

[quote name='Shawn`' date='19 July 2010 - 03:10 PM' timestamp='1279566649' post='434512']
Wow, with all the negativity here you would think that T.O came to each one of your houses at 3 A.M, woke you up with loud music just so you could watch him pee on your prized rose garden.

I mean seriously, it's just a football player.
[/quote]
I agree but chemistry is vital to a teams success and thats proven to be important. I don't think TO is as big of a problem as he used to be. I just don't think the risk reward is worth it. TO isn't what he used to be and there is a chance he could act up again. And with the team we got we can't get distracted from the end goal.

[XxSizzleXx]

[quote name='PuRock' date='17 July 2010 - 12:42 AM' timestamp='1279348945' post='433764']
Its just T-Sizzle be T-Sizzle. He has no idea what the front office is discussing as it concerns other players. [b]This reminds me of the time Suggs lobbied for Troy Smith to be the starter.[/b]
[/quote]

That was laughable.

[BuckWilds]

[quote name='Shawn`' date='19 July 2010 - 03:10 PM' timestamp='1279566649' post='434512']
Wow, with all the negativity here you would think that T.O came to each one of your houses at 3 A.M, woke you up with loud music just so you could watch him pee on your prized rose garden.

I mean seriously, it's just a football player.
[/quote]

And seriously, some of us just don't want him on the Ravens. Like, for sure, it's seriously a football forum.

[-Truth-]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='18 July 2010 - 08:22 PM' timestamp='1279502557' post='434239']
Doesn't appear the Ravens have nay interest in him.



[b]Why would they give away a draft pick(even a 7th rounder) for a player that will be 37 in December?[/b] When was the last time that happened?

I just don't see the point in signing him when he'd likely be competing with Stallworth for slot duty. The belief is Cam will run more 3-wide sets this year but if the TEs come along well in pre-season, they'll warrant targets too. Only so many people can touch the football. Why sign a guy who may see one or two targets game and then complain about it?
[/quote]
I agree. Terrell Owens is merely a short term solution, and we are set at WR, at least for the short term. However, I'm not sure that his age is an underlying factor in his current status as a Free Agent. Derrick Mason will also turn 37, the following month after Terrell's birthday. My point is, there are players in the league who defy the limitations provided by age.

Now do I think that T.O. will be a fit for the Ravens? No. He was still a starter in Buffalo, and saw targets regardless of their porous Offensive play. Having less field time for the first time in his career might encourage him revert back to his selfish ways. Although to his credit, he remained on very good behavior in Buffalo, even with the media blatantly trying to provoke outbursts. Do I think that T.O. can still be a productive player in the NFL? Absolutely. He had over 800 Receiving Yards on a team that ranked 3rd to last in Passing Offense, while sharing targets with another talented WR in Lee Evans. Terell will probably sign with a team within the next few weeks, and put up decent, likely even surprising numbers. But it won't be the Ravens. I predict either Seattle, Oakland or Jacksonville.

[BloodRaven]

I'm guessing Seattle since they missed out on Marshall.