Suggs Lobbies For Ravens To Acquire T.O.

[BohBalmerOsbohs]

The Conversation he was Having with Teddy Bruschi on NFL Live on ESPN.

Michael Smith interviewed Drew Rosenhaus who stated that several teams are inquiring about TO right now, but did not name any of them. He said Ozzie Newsome did contact their agency prior to resigning DMase and trading for Anquan. Suggs said TO still has it, and [b]will[/b] be a good pickup.

Bruschi stated that he thought TO would be a good fit in Pittsburgh.

Suggs responded by saying "He wouldn't look good in those colors. [b]Ozzie...get it done![/b]"

hmmmm, Thoughts

[ed.s52]

I agree that if we didnt have Mason, it would be the PERFECT signing.

But in reality, he would ride the bench and only be good for rest, garbage time, and injury.

But based on his character issues, I really think they are overrated. He may not necessarily the best person but I don't think he would cause any unneeded problems.

[BohBalmerOsbohs]

What Surprised me the most was, he brung up Ozzies name like that

[theFRANCHISE]

I think he was just hamming it up for TV -- that's just my intuition.

Otherwise, this is a non-issue to me. Suggs is just voicing his opinion, but that doesn't mean it was a serious proposal (remember how the Suggs Package was named?), nor does it mean that T.O. would be a good fit for the locker room.

[PlayLikeAFan]

NO, NO, NO! We do not need T.O. We already have 3 fine WRs and we do not need to risk him being a dope to make our franchise look bad. I'm sure he can still get 1k yards as a starter somewhere else(Bills sucked which is why he did bad last season) but there is a reason no other team wants him, Risk vs. Reward.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

T.O.==>

[PuRock]

Its just T-Sizzle be T-Sizzle. He has no idea what the front office is discussing as it concerns other players. This reminds me of the time Suggs lobbied for Troy Smith to be the starter.

[Ravnet]

[quote name='BohBalmerOsbohs' date='17 July 2010 - 01:08 AM' timestamp='1279343300' post='433750']
What Surprised me the most was, he brung up Ozzies name like that
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Why does that surprise you?

[BuckWilds]

[quote name='BohBalmerOsbohs' date='17 July 2010 - 01:02 AM' timestamp='1279342930' post='433747']
The Conversation he was Having with Teddy Bruschi on NFL Live on ESPN.

Michael Smith interviewed Drew Rosenhaus who stated that several teams are inquiring about TO right now, but did not name any of them. He said Ozzie Newsome did contact their agency prior to resigning DMase and trading for Anquan. Suggs said TO still has it, and [b]will[/b] be a good pickup.

Bruschi stated that he thought TO would be a good fit in Pittsburgh.

Suggs responded by saying "He wouldn't look good in those colors. [b]Ozzie...get it done![/b]"

hmmmm, Thoughts
[/quote]

Sure, bring him to Baltimore. There are a few conditions, however.

[b]1)[/b] Week to week contract, with the coaches being able to boot him at the first sign of trouble, with league minimum pay and a bonus only if we win the Super Bowl.

[b]2)[/b] He lives the entire season on Suggs' couch.

[b]3)[/b] Every time he questions the coaches, other players, or any staff having anything to do with the organization he is fined his entire salary.

[b]4)[/b] He and Suggs must come out in favor of child-only autograph signing at training camp.

[b]5)[/b] He must apologize to all the players and coaches he has wronged in the past by writing the apologies 1,000 times on a dry erase board on live TV - all while not working out in his driveway, sitting in his 'recovery chamber', or in any way, shape or form hamming it up. He must also apologize for his reality show.

Considering his past these terms are kind and fair. I look forward to hearing from his agent.

[berad]

I'm looking forward to the apology for his reality show!

[Rav'n Maniac]

[quote name='BohBalmerOsbohs' date='17 July 2010 - 12:08 AM' timestamp='1279343300' post='433750']
What Surprised me the most was, he brung up Ozzies name like that
[/quote]
I'm with you on this one! You don't call out your front office on national tv. It's an embarrassment to the team, joke or no joke. If any one of us did the same thing to upper management of the companies we work for, we'd be looking for a job.

[J-man]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' date='17 July 2010 - 01:10 AM' timestamp='1279343415' post='433751']
I think he was just hamming it up for TV -- that's just my intuition.

[/quote]

I saw it when he said it. Like Tedy was talking about T.O for the whole segment, then Suggs just popped in when they were about to go to commercial break, and said it. So to me, it's no big deal.

[ravensdfan]

[quote name='ed.s52' date='17 July 2010 - 12:07 AM' timestamp='1279343236' post='433748']
I agree that if we didnt have Mason, it would be the PERFECT signing.

But in reality, he would ride the bench and only be good for rest, garbage time, and injury.

But based on his character issues, I really think they are overrated. He may not necessarily the best person but I don't think he would cause any unneeded problems.
[/quote]


How would it be the perfect signing? Even if we did not have Mason? T.O. has not proven his ability to perform recently. The POTENTIAL is there, but he lacks any self-control, self-motivation and is trouble in every form. No matter the circumstances T.O. is just not Raven material.

[BohBalmerOsbohs]

[quote name='Ravnet' date='17 July 2010 - 02:05 AM' timestamp='1279350342' post='433766']
Why does that surprise you?
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read Rav'n Maniac's comment above if you really have to ask

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

I would take TO on [url="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81922c39/article/want-to-roll-the-dice-on-to-this-contract-proposal-could-work"]THESE TERMS...[/url]

Pretty good article, and pretty good proposal. Loop holes to get out of the contract if he doesn't pan out, plus no gaurenteed money and forces him to earn the cash he desires. Well done Mr. Kirwan.

[RedFire]

i'm surprised noone tried to send in a negative rep to suggs...

making a thread like that will get you ate up by the wolves on this board.


guess suggs is the end-all be-all......

[BloodRaven]

He's been a harmless puppy ever since Joanna Krupa stole his soul on ABC's The Superstars.

[Purple Punishment]

[quote name='ravensdfan' date='17 July 2010 - 09:04 AM' timestamp='1279375459' post='433806']
How would it be the perfect signing? Even if we did not have Mason? [b]T.O. has not proven his ability to perform recently[/b]. The POTENTIAL is there, but he lacks any self-control, self-motivation and is trouble in every form. No matter the circumstances T.O. is just not Raven material.
[/quote]

Yeah because close to 1000yds receiving with Ryan Fitzpatrick throwing to you and a insanely weak Bills O Line. I think that statement is so far off. Do you think Mason would have got 1000 yds receiving in Buffalo last season? Im not bashing Mason, I'm just saying.....

[Purple Punishment]

[quote name='BuckWilds' date='17 July 2010 - 03:54 AM' timestamp='1279356873' post='433774']
Sure, bring him to Baltimore. There are a few conditions, however.

[b]1)[/b] Week to week contract, with the coaches being able to boot him at the first sign of trouble, with league minimum pay and a bonus only if we win the Super Bowl.

[b]2)[/b] He lives the entire season on Suggs' couch.

[b]3)[/b] Every time he questions the coaches, other players, or any staff having anything to do with the organization he is fined his entire salary.

[b]4)[/b] He and Suggs must come out in favor of child-only autograph signing at training camp.

[b]5)[/b] He must apologize to all the players and coaches he has wronged in the past by writing the apologies 1,000 times on a dry erase board on live TV - all while not working out in his driveway, sitting in his 'recovery chamber', or in any way, shape or form hamming it up. He must also apologize for his reality show.

Considering his past these terms are kind and fair. I look forward to hearing from his agent.
[/quote]

Respectfully, to what you have said, you are condoning treating a man like a dog, and when you do that to him, hes going to get out of like like in the past. He been mature and wants to win, He caused no trouble in Buffalo last year and he hasnt had any off the field issues, and finally, With him on our receiving corps, we become an even better offense. 50 people on this forum will say NO NO NO and NO but not have a really good reason why. His locker room cancer days are over. So with that gone, what else can you really say is bad about him? A man shouldnt have to keep living with his past chasing him. Bring him here, if hes respectful and plays well, then nobody can talk this crap. Its getting really old saying oh' hes a locker room cancer. Im certain everyone on this forum has done wrong in their past and changed and wanted forgiveness for the wrongs they have done, What is so different about Terrell Owens wanting the same thing that any person would want?

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

[quote name='Purple Punishment' date='18 July 2010 - 12:52 AM' timestamp='1279432371' post='434024']
Respectfully, to what you have said, you are condoning treating a man like a dog, and when you do that to him, hes going to get out of like like in the past. He been mature and wants to win, He caused no trouble in Buffalo last year and he hasnt had any off the field issues, and finally, With him on our receiving corps, we become an even better offense. 50 people on this forum will say NO NO NO and NO but not have a really good reason why. His locker room cancer days are over. So with that gone, what else can you really say is bad about him? A man shouldnt have to keep living with his past chasing him. Bring him here, if hes respectful and plays well, then nobody can talk this crap. Its getting really old saying oh' hes a locker room cancer. Im certain everyone on this forum has done wrong in their past and changed and wanted forgiveness for the wrongs they have done, What is so different about Terrell Owens wanting the same thing that any person would want?
[/quote]


I agree with you. Him being a "cancer" was just too good of TV to pass it up. He messed up a couple times and then it was the cool thing to do for a couple more years and now its played out so the media hasnt been blowing it up as much. Dude made stupid mistakes, not arguing that he didnt, but I think way too much emphasis was placed on it.

If you say he cannot play anymore, just look as his stats for the past 4 years. Slight drop off but still over 1,000 except for last year, and that was with, as purplepunishment pointed out, with an non-existent O-line and QB. If I recall correctly (it was a pretty big story the first couple weeks of the season) TO didnt even have a catch for the first couple games. Clearly it took some time for him to gel with a new, and terrible QB but once they got onto a similar page he put up over 800 yards... WITH a slow start and minimal help.

I'm not saying we need TO, I'm not even saying we should go and get TO.... I'm just tired of always hearing about how he's the worst team mate, hes got nothing left in the tank, or he'd destroy our team's chances if he came here. If anything that's a slap in the face to our team, not TO. Our team isnt good enough and disciplined enough to overcome ONE primadonna and still have a good season? That's a pretty poor team. The Eagles went to the Superbowl with that primadonna at the height of his "antics." The Cowboys got knocked out in the first round of the playoffs twice, but once solely because of a Romo blunder and neither can be blamed on TO. They havent done anything differently for nearly a decade. So even during the height of his cancer, the teams on the field were never worse because of him, and in fact in Philly they were better regarldess of off-field distractions.

Again, not saying I want him... just tired of the played-out, highly skeptical and redundant claims of how terrible TO is. Quite frankly if nabbed him on the cheap side, our offense kicks it up another notch to close to the best. Boldin, Mason, TO is probably the best group of recievers in the league... 3 guys who consistantly go over 1,000 yards? Best hands down. Boldin, Mason, Stallworth is still pretty darn good, but not the best. Anyone who says they would be really mad if TO came to the team will change their minds after watching that offense click.

What it comes down to is if Ozzie says no, so do I. If ozzie says yes, a lot of people, and im not just talking about people on this forum... most around the nation will have to insert their foot in their mouths after he has a media friendly season putting up good stats and helping us win a SB (not that we arent already going to).

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

We all bought the magazines, read the articles, and watched Sports Center which just fueled further stories and more TO scrutiny. The media makes money on viewership, so if youre watching/reading theyre selling.

It's like the Brett Favre thing; it kept news rolling the first year during the downtime when he kept going back and forth from retired to playing. Since we all watched the first time, every year now there's the Brett Favre sage. He's playing, we all know it; and it will continue to the point of where we're all so sure he's playing that he'll retire. TO messed up a couple times and we watched, so then anything he did that could even be construed as misguided was blown up and we ate it up.

Same with the Lebron free agency... thats why we had the one hour long "Decision." Then Lebron gets hate for being vain and only wanting attention. Yea right, ESPN came up with the idea to make bank in advertsing space on the attention his free agent signing was making.

The media plays our emotions like a violin, and then sells us the CD.



Sorry for the rant, but it's a sin to even mention TO's name around here. I don't much care for the guy but I felt it had to be said. Sorry if you disagree and I look forward to reading the responses, and sorry for taking up so much space. I also hope no one takes this as directed at them, most of the country holds these beliefs and this is more a critique of the media than of any individuals. No one is guilty for their opinion, because we base them on information given to us. It's logic... and when logic tells us to dislike we do, I am just saying that maybe the info we're fed isn't true, or is at least tainted. Point is, I think the dude can play and would make our team on the field a little better.

[BuckWilds]

[quote name='Purple Punishment' date='18 July 2010 - 01:52 AM' timestamp='1279432371' post='434024']
Respectfully, to what you have said, you are condoning treating a man like a dog, and when you do that to him, hes going to get out of like like in the past. He been mature and wants to win, He caused no trouble in Buffalo last year and he hasnt had any off the field issues, and finally, With him on our receiving corps, we become an even better offense. 50 people on this forum will say NO NO NO and NO but not have a really good reason why. His locker room cancer days are over. So with that gone, what else can you really say is bad about him? A man shouldnt have to keep living with his past chasing him. Bring him here, if hes respectful and plays well, then nobody can talk this crap. Its getting really old saying oh' hes a locker room cancer. Im certain everyone on this forum has done wrong in their past and changed and wanted forgiveness for the wrongs they have done, What is so different about Terrell Owens wanting the same thing that any person would want?
[/quote]

How in the world you took my joke post to mean I'm 'condoning treating a man like a dog' is beyond me. 50 people on this forum have seen how he destroys locker rooms and they realize we have enough talent in our wide receiver corps now. There's no need to bring in the guy that did all this and MORE:

> Called out Garcia on his sexual preference - under the bus you go!

> Wore a Dallas jersey to anger Philly while he was an Eagle

> While an Eagle he publicly stated he would not have signed with the Eagles if he could go back in time.

> Said he didn't give a smack what fans thought

> Said the Eagles would have been undefeated is they had Brett Favre instead of Donovan McNabb - under the bus you go!

> Referred to the Eagles as a classless organization for not worshiping him after his 100th career touchdown.

> Tried to off himself with Hydrocodone in 2006

> Spit in DeAngelo Hall's face after a play

> Threw Bill Parcels under the bus after he stopped coaching, saying he offered nothing to the team.

With respect, I'm unconcerned what you believe is 'getting old'. He [i][u]is[/u][/i] a locker room cancer. Truth is painful especially when people repeat it. The bleeding hearts for T.O. will never gain my support. He tore down all kinds of people for his own pleasure/desires.

[BloodRaven]

hypothetically who becomes the number 1 receiver?

would Boldin take a number 2 role AGAIN?

do we sacrifice deep speed (Stallworth) or clutch hands (Mase) in our 3 receiver set to accommodate TO?

would Mase like sitting on the bench after everything he's done for us?

do we have the cap space?

how much would TO's declining skills and stone hands hurt us?

wouldn't it be a bad look if one of our players tells the GM to get someone and he does?

[ravenz_fan]

you can not take away the skills that t o has yet our team does not need an overpriced attitude i think we have a great mix of recievers to et the job done this year go ravenssss

[PurpleChaos]

Suggs should just be focused on improving his own overrated self and earning his own keep versus talking some nonsense about bringing in a headcase. Talk is cheap Sizzleless.

[BuckWilds]

ESPN posted on 'Rumor Central' at 7:50am that Rosenhaus has claimed five teams are interested in Owens (he doesn't mention the teams), but made a point to mention the Baltimore Ravens are not one of them. ESPN isn't a perfect source of information, but if this is correct, T.O. might have to sell his wares elsewhere. The article does mention the Patriots, Seahawks and Chargers, but said the Chargers declared their lack of interest due to being 'set' at WR.

I'd link it but it's Insider (I know, I'm just checking it out... it's 'meh').

[Marc2k6]

[quote name='Purple Punishment' date='18 July 2010 - 01:52 AM' timestamp='1279432371' post='434024']
Respectfully, to what you have said, you are condoning treating a man like a dog, and when you do that to him, hes going to get out of like like in the past. He been mature and wants to win, He caused no trouble in Buffalo last year and he hasnt had any off the field issues, and finally, With him on our receiving corps, we become an even better offense. 50 people on this forum will say NO NO NO and NO but not have a really good reason why. His locker room cancer days are over. So with that gone, what else can you really say is bad about him? A man shouldnt have to keep living with his past chasing him. Bring him here, if hes respectful and plays well, then nobody can talk this crap. Its getting really old saying oh' hes a locker room cancer. Im certain everyone on this forum has done wrong in their past and changed and wanted forgiveness for the wrongs they have done, What is so different about Terrell Owens wanting the same thing that any person would want?
[/quote]

T.O. a Raven? A lot of people we say no just because he did not want to come here back in like 2004 and I say if you were on of the top WR's in the NFL would you be interested in playing for a run first team with a QB that was not really that good? No you would not beinterested.

T.O. a locker room cancer? Is this the same guy who played in the Super Bowl against Doctors orders and hadto sign a liabilty waiver to play? Oh yeah and carried the team on his back during the game. All I see is a guy that wants the ball and I guy that wants to win.

Terrel Suggs in my opinion was saying that if the steelers are looking to sign him then Ozzie should go ahead and get a deal done with him so we do not have to play vs him. Plus who would look good wear yellow and black? When the Raven's run you over you end up looking like bad street markings.

[Marc2k6]

[quote name='BuckWilds' date='18 July 2010 - 03:35 AM' timestamp='1279438517' post='434035']


> Spit in DeAngelo Hall's face after a play

[/quote]

I do not think D. Hall has been the same since T.O. spit on him. He has lost his swag!

[BuckWilds]

[quote name='Marc2k6' date='18 July 2010 - 10:38 AM' timestamp='1279463910' post='434068']
I do not think D. Hall has been the same since T.O. spit on him. He has lost his swag!
[/quote]



Apparently TO's spit has special powers.

[dpatrickguy]

This thread is a whole lot of overreaction.

[Purple Punishment]

[quote name='Marc2k6' date='18 July 2010 - 09:28 AM' timestamp='1279463321' post='434066']
T.O. a Raven? A lot of people we say no just because he did not want to come here back in like 2004 and I say if you were on of the top WR's in the NFL would you be interested in playing for a run first team with a QB that was not really that good? No you would not beinterested.

T.O. a locker room cancer? Is this the same guy who played in the Super Bowl against Doctors orders and hadto sign a liabilty waiver to play? Oh yeah and carried the team on his back during the game. All I see is a guy that wants the ball and I guy that wants to win.

Terrel Suggs in my opinion was saying that if the steelers are looking to sign him then Ozzie should go ahead and get a deal done with him so we do not have to play vs him. Plus who would look good wear yellow and black? When the Raven's run you over you end up looking like bad street markings.
[/quote]

I remember T.O. getting alot of bad press for being hurt and playing in the SB. People were calling him selfish. I love when he got on camera and said if Brett Favre had done the same thing, he would have been praised and called a hero.

You have a point about him not wanting to play here and people need to let the past be the past and recognize that he has more talent than Stallworth and would probably play hard for peanuts to be part of this run. If we get T.O. the big dance is definitely in Dallas and we would own the Floor!!!