Who Should Ravens Trade For Now?

[BloodRaven]

I'm surprised we never brought in CB Leigh Bodden for a visit, he's a better man-corner than Foxworth and resigned with the Pats for a base salary of 3.9 million a year.

[flynismo]

We should have went after Lebron.

[ed.s52]

[quote name='flynismo' date='13 July 2010 - 02:55 PM' timestamp='1279061759' post='432446']
We should have went after Lebron.
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Hah, I just thought about it.

How pissed would Cleaveland be if Art Moddel took his franchise to Baltimore AND we took away LeBron? My guess is furious.

[JO_75]

[quote name='flynismo' date='13 July 2010 - 06:55 PM' timestamp='1279061759' post='432446']
We should have went after Lebron.
[/quote]

Ha! Totally. What position what he have played though?

I don't think we should trade for anyone, we are fine. We addressed our issues in the draft and Free Agency. Now I do like the idea of signing Willie as a backup at RT, I mean right now he would be the best backup at RT if Gaither goes down for a injury.

[POE]

This topic is lame! I understand it's been a bit boring lately but I don't understand these kinds of threads.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='RayZ27' date='12 July 2010 - 07:58 PM' timestamp='1278979121' post='432029']
wow. like that would happen
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I'm not trying to launch a personal attack but you were the one that created a vague thread about who the Ravens should trade for when team transactions league-wide aren't really going on right now. You yourself didn't even come up with a plausible trade scenario. Can't blame people for getting sarcastic.

[TheRavenouseD2008]

how about we trade 200 crab cakes for 4 million cheese steaks?

[RavensAllTheWay]

Just a quick reminder. These threads won't stop appearing. Hey, I'm only here to watch the sarcasm and jokes float around.

[Ravenmore74]

Asante Samuel I think this guy well reinforce Foxworth.

[Romo Ravens]

[quote name='BloodRaven' date='13 July 2010 - 07:32 AM' timestamp='1279035123' post='432217']
I'm surprised we never brought in CB Leigh Bodden for a visit, he's a better man-corner than Foxworth and resigned with the Pats for a base salary of 3.9 million a year.
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This.

I never understood why we didn't give him a look either. Nice size at 6'1, can play man like a, well, a man, and hardly needs assistance from his SS behind him. Did I mention he's a willing tackler? I like Foxy, but him, Bodden with Webb in the nickel with Carr spelling Webb would be an ideal situation.

To bad.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='TheRavenouseD2008' date='13 July 2010 - 11:21 PM' timestamp='1279077693' post='432566']
how about we trade 200 crab cakes for 4 million cheese steaks?
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cheese steak for lunch it is....thanks

[RayZ27]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='13 July 2010 - 10:13 PM' timestamp='1279077193' post='432564']
I'm not trying to launch a personal attack but you were the one that created a vague thread about who the Ravens should trade for when team transactions league-wide aren't really going on right now. You yourself didn't even come up with a plausible trade scenario. Can't blame people for getting sarcastic.
[/quote]
well... you are right

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

If anything maybe trade Smith for a 5th and 7th... maybe a higher pick in the 2012 draft so we have more picks to work with. Maybe package a few for a player, or for draft day trading.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' date='14 July 2010 - 01:12 AM' timestamp='1279084341' post='432606']
This.

I never understood why we didn't give him a look either. Nice size at 6'1, can play man like a, well, a man, and hardly needs assistance from his SS behind him. Did I mention he's a willing tackler? I like Foxy, but him, Bodden with Webb in the nickel with Carr spelling Webb would be an ideal situation.

To bad.
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Bodden never intended to leave NE. Plus, had the Ravens really made a push for him, they would have close to $50 million invested in just two CBs. No good NFL franchise does that.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

This might be a stupid question to those with more knowledge of the game, but I just had this thought. Each team cuts, what like 20 some players during training camp... some of the cuts being more obvious than others. With that in mind, can some of those players who have never made an official roster, like UDFA and drafted rookies, be traded? If so, would it be possible to package a bunch of those players in a trade scenerio whether it be for picks or players?

Kind of like the real estate collapse with packages of mortages. Package a bunch of crappy ones together and investors bite on the hopes of landing a few good ones in the bunch. Maybe a low-level team looking for cheap help would accept a trade of a bunch of UDFA hoping to find one good player in the mix...

Again, this may sound stupid and maybe I'm missing something, but is that realistic?

[Romo Ravens]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='14 July 2010 - 10:05 AM' timestamp='1279130704' post='432797']
Bodden never intended to leave NE. Plus, had the Ravens really made a push for him, they would have close to $50 million invested in just two CBs. No good NFL franchise does that.
[/quote]

Those would all be very valid points, but I'm talking about before he even joined the Patriots to begin with.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='BOLDnPurPnBlacK' date='14 July 2010 - 03:07 PM' timestamp='1279134469' post='432831']
This might be a stupid question to those with more knowledge of the game, but I just had this thought. Each team cuts, what like 20 some players during training camp... some of the cuts being more obvious than others. With that in mind, can some of those players who have never made an official roster, like UDFA and drafted rookies, be traded? If so, would it be possible to package a bunch of those players in a trade scenerio whether it be for picks or players?

Kind of like the real estate collapse with packages of mortages. Package a bunch of crappy ones together and investors bite on the hopes of landing a few good ones in the bunch. Maybe a low-level team looking for cheap help would accept a trade of a bunch of UDFA hoping to find one good player in the mix...

Again, this may sound stupid and maybe I'm missing something, but is that realistic?
[/quote]
no, becuase they could just be signed by any team as opposed to traded....I like the mortgage analogy though

[flynismo]

[quote name='JO_75' date='13 July 2010 - 10:58 PM' timestamp='1279076327' post='432559']
Ha! Totally. What position what he have played though?
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Forget where I read it (maybe even on here somewhere...), but there was a little rumor a while ago going around that Lebron was considering playing as a TE for the Brownies. I wouldn't mind seeing him as a goalline WR reciever >_<

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

[quote name='1/28/01' date='14 July 2010 - 04:25 PM' timestamp='1279142701' post='432896']
no, becuase they could just be signed by any team as opposed to traded....I like the mortgage analogy though
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Yea I understand that bit, but another team has no real way of knowing which players we would cut. And if they were to inquire about a specific player, surround him with a bunch of players we're planning on cutting to up the value, and sell it as sort of a lottery ticket. You want this guy? Well we want more value so you gotta take these other guys to up the value. And hey, who knows maybe one or two of them turn out to be good players. Then maybe instead of trading one player for like a 4th round, package 5 other prospects and have them bump it up to a 3rd or 2nd round.

Maybe I'm still off base. But I think it would be worth a try especially for the better teams who end up cutting quality players. Throw 10 players at a team and especially on a poor team, you'd think 1 or 2 could end up contributing for them, and we end up possibly picking something up. Even if it's just a 6th rounder, thats a pick we didnt have just for trading some guys we were going to cut. Worth a try maybe

[Dan The Man Ravens #1 Fan]

[quote name='BOLDnPurPnBlacK' date='14 July 2010 - 07:16 PM' timestamp='1279149377' post='432944']
Yea I understand that bit, but another team has no real way of knowing which players we would cut. And if they were to inquire about a specific player, surround him with a bunch of players we're planning on cutting to up the value, and sell it as sort of a lottery ticket. You want this guy? Well we want more value so you gotta take these other guys to up the value. And hey, who knows maybe one or two of them turn out to be good players. Then maybe instead of trading one player for like a 4th round, package 5 other prospects and have them bump it up to a 3rd or 2nd round.

Maybe I'm still off base. But I think it would be worth a try especially for the better teams who end up cutting quality players. Throw 10 players at a team and especially on a poor team, you'd think 1 or 2 could end up contributing for them, and we end up possibly picking something up. Even if it's just a 6th rounder, thats a pick we didnt have just for trading some guys we were going to cut. Worth a try maybe
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I understand your thought process and the idea would make sense except for the fact that there isnt a team out there that doesnt have advanced scouting. Teams know what players potentials are. Think about the trade with Boldin. Do you think we would even consider taking 3,4,5 ect... extra players along with Boldin for say a 2nd round pick? I dont think so. Good idea but teams are not that naive.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='Dan The Man Ravens #1 Fan' date='14 July 2010 - 07:56 PM' timestamp='1279151794' post='432954']
I understand your thought process and the idea would make sense except for the fact that there isnt a team out there that doesnt have advanced scouting. Teams know what players potentials are. Think about the trade with Boldin. Do you think we would even consider taking 3,4,5 ect... extra players along with Boldin for say a 2nd round pick? I dont think so. Good idea but teams are not that naive.
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not to mention that those players are not ours to trade.....we'd have to do some sort of NBA "sign and trade" for those players

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' date='14 July 2010 - 03:10 PM' timestamp='1279134619' post='432833']
Those would all be very valid points, but I'm talking about before he even joined the Patriots to begin with.
[/quote]

Well, he was with Detroit in '08 and had a pretty bad season(not entirely his fault). The Ravens decided Foxworth was a better investment going into the '09 season.

[Mick0311]

[quote name='RayZ27' date='12 July 2010 - 04:20 PM' timestamp='1278973209' post='431995']
i feel sad saying this but it would make sense. lewis for willis. sorry again
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Lewis who? I'm not sure who you are talking about, because I know you are not talking about #52 right? You know we got rid a Jamal a few years ago right?

CMON MANNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BloodRaven]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='14 July 2010 - 09:31 PM' timestamp='1279161077' post='433008']
Well, he was with Detroit in '08 and had a pretty bad season(not entirely his fault). The Ravens decided Foxworth was a better investment going into the '09 season.
[/quote]

Elite money for an career number 2 corner and former 3rd round pick is still harsh. I get the situation though, because of our situation we were forced to pay above market value.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

[quote name='1/28/01' date='14 July 2010 - 08:27 PM' timestamp='1279157238' post='432990']
not to mention that those players are not ours to trade.....we'd have to do some sort of NBA "sign and trade" for those players
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gotcha, yea that was my main question... didnt know that by having the players on TC roster meant we owned their rights, or if they had to make the final roster to be able to be traded. thanks for the clarifications guys

[RavensAllTheWay]

[quote name='SupaBwandin' date='13 July 2010 - 09:42 AM' timestamp='1279028565' post='432194']
Send a 3rd and Troy to Buffalo for McKelvin
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Just wondering was that sarcastic? Because the Bills would never be okay with that. Troy plus a 3rd is not nearly enough for McKelvin, he is a prized possession up there. I know they need a QB, but a proven QB would fit the bill much better than Troy would, and he wouldn't even be surrounded by good talent, making him that much worse.

[grape drank]

[quote name='RavensAllTheWay' date='15 July 2010 - 07:54 PM' timestamp='1279241660' post='433313']
Just wondering was that sarcastic? Because the Bills would never be okay with that. Troy plus a 3rd is not nearly enough for McKelvin, he is a prized possession up there. I know they need a QB, but a proven QB would fit the bill much better than Troy would, and he wouldn't even be surrounded by good talent, making him that much worse.
[/quote]
lol watch the ravens turn around and trade Bulger plus a pick for McKelvin, you heard it first from me.

[ed.s52]

I don't think we will trade for McKelvin because the Bills value him more than he is really worth, and we as a team probably have faith in Foxy and Webb, with Fab or Harris as our slot. Or Webb in the Slot Harris as the #2. McKelvin would be nice, but it would at least require a 2nd, 4th, and Bulger with the possibility of Troy as well (depending on how much they want Bulger, which cant be that much because they didnt sign him before we did).

[BloodRaven]

Why are some of you so high on McKelvin? he spent most of last season on IR after stinking up the first 3 games.

[ed.s52]

I'm not that high on McKelvin, but I think the Bills are