Can You Name Our Division Rivals 'X' Factor?

[Ravenseconbeast]

Can you name our division rival's 'X' factor?

When I mean by 'X' factor for its key talents of roster that mainstream doesn't know about or talk about.


For Ravens its : Ellerbe, Zbikowski, L.Webb, Jarett Johnson, & Billy Cundiff.

For Bengals/Steelers: ?

I'm not much of a Steelers/Bengals fan to know enough about their x factor players,, name some if you know some hot players on steelers/bengals roster, thanks!

[EdReedFTW]

For the steelers probably Lawrence Timmons or really any defensive player not named Polamalu or any OLB. Bengals, I cant really think of anyone that's not a big name. Perhaps some of their O lineman, they have an underrated offensive line.

[Corvus]

Domata Peko, one of their defensive tackles, for the Bengals is pretty underrated. He was a major reason their defense was as improved against the run last year. Chinedum Ndukwe at safety was solid for them last year, if he wins one of their starting jobs back there again, he should only improve even more, guy is still pretty young.

Mewelde Moore is a fantastic all purpose running back for the Steelers, he is probably somewhat "known" though by now. With Willie Parker gone, he could have a career season. As bad as the Steelers line has been the last few years, one of their guards, Chris Kemoaetu turned into a bulldozer in the run game for them last year. With Willie Colon gone for the year, he is arguably their best offensive lineman.

The Browns are pretty lowly, but I have a feeling Peyton Hillis is gonna be solid for them on offense and most people (other than a few fantasy footballers from 08) don't know him. Great runner for a FB, and good run and pass blocker. He's like a white LeRon McClain, haha!

[Shammy]

johnathan fanene on the bengals

[ed.s52]

When I think of X factor I think of a make-it or break-it factor, something that is unknown and can be either good or bad for the team.

On the Bengals, this would be Carson Palmer's all around consistency and durability and for the Steelers it is a question of how can their old players perform, as well as Dennis Dixon/Byron Leftwich?

For the Browns, it is whether or not the Delohme expirament will work?

[RavensAllTheWay]

Bengals: Bernard Scott. He was in the shadow of Benson last year and probably won't get too much more attention this year, depending on how Roger Goodell disciplines Benson for his recent arrest. He was alright on kickof returns and did well as a compliment to Benson.

Steelers: Mike Wallace. Although he is starting to get more attention (especially since Holmes is gone), defenses will look to scheme out Ward and Heath Miller before they focus on Wallace. He's also a pretty good deep threat, their best one for sure. I might also wanna say Stefan Logan, but he does nothing other then return kicks and punts, so I'll leave him out of the discussion.

[RavensAllTheWay]

[quote name='Ravenseconbeast' date='09 July 2010 - 12:31 PM' timestamp='1278693086' post='431020']
Can you name our division rival's 'X' factor?

When I mean by 'X' factor for its key talents of roster that mainstream doesn't know about or talk about.


For Ravens its : Ellerbe, Zbikowski, L.Webb, Jarett Johnson, & Billy Cundiff.

For Bengals/Steelers: ?

I'm not much of a Steelers/Bengals fan to know enough about their x factor players,, name some if you know some hot players on steelers/bengals roster, thanks!
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And just so you know, I think this is a really good topic of discussion. It's something new and unseen. +1 for the creativity of thinking of and starting this thread.

[justifythegame]

[quote name='Ravenseconbeast' date='09 July 2010 - 12:31 PM' timestamp='1278693086' post='431020']
Can you name our division rival's 'X' factor?

When I mean by 'X' factor for its key talents of roster that mainstream doesn't know about or talk about.


For Ravens its : Ellerbe, Zbikowski, L.Webb, Jarett Johnson, & Billy Cundiff.

For Bengals/Steelers: ?

I'm not much of a Steelers/Bengals fan to know enough about their x factor players,, name some if you know some hot players on steelers/bengals roster, thanks!
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While those guys are unknowns, with the exception of JJ, none of those guys have proven anything be referred to as an x factor.

I think Rashard Mendenhall is very underrated, he fits the the Steelers definition for RB and had a decent year which went overlooked last year. Add the fact he was a highly ranked first round pick bound for a break out year.

The Bengals in general have a number of players who don't get attention on their defense, because they have been recognized as an offensive powerhouse for so long. There are a number of names on their DL, and LBs that high picks have been invested in. They also have great CBs -im unsure if people recognize them.

Browns - jerome harrison, dquell jackson

[Rav'n Maniac]

Good topic.

When I think of "X" factor, I also think of make or break situations. For me it's the coaches of our rivals and their game plans. Most importantly, how they plan to deal with the diversities that surround them and the effect it will have on their seasons.

[T-ray]

When I think of X-Factor, I usually think of the one guy a team cannot do without, so I'll list both my opinion of the player who fits my definition, and my opinion on who fits your definition.

Steelers (my definition): Troy Polamalu- without him, their Defense, especially their passing D, crumbled. With him, the defense held together and played great.

Bengals (again, my definition): Carson Palmer- when he's hurt, the O suffers mightily, and face it; they've been an offensive-first team since Palmer/Johnson's first start. So that automatically disqualifies any defensive players in my mind.

Browns (oh dear, this is gonna be hard by my definition): Jerome Harrison- yes, he just recently started getting starts, and yes, he's still unproven, but who else would you name??? Last year, he was their only offense once he got his starts.

YOUR Definition:


Steelers: Mike Wallace- I see potential in the guy, not only can he go deep and burn, but he also can make tough catches and is an underrated playmaker

Bengals: Domata Peko- very good, underrated defensive player who can do just about anything asked of him. He's been flying under the radar for a while now. Then again, hasn't the whole Bengals defense been flying under the radar??? Make that pick the whole Bengals D

Browns: D'Qwell Jackson is a decent (decent is great on this team) Linebacker who could garner more attention if he was on a better team, but Jerome Harrison fits this bill perfectly.

[justifythegame]

[quote name='T-ray' date='11 July 2010 - 12:59 PM' timestamp='1278867590' post='431545']
When I think of X-Factor, I usually think of the one guy a team cannot do without, so I'll list both my opinion of the player who fits my definition, and my opinion on who fits your definition.

Steelers (my definition): Troy Polamalu- without him, their Defense, especially their passing D, crumbled. With him, the defense held together and played great.

Bengals (again, my definition): Carson Palmer- when he's hurt, the O suffers mightily, and face it; they've been an offensive-first team since Palmer/Johnson's first start. So that automatically disqualifies any defensive players in my mind.

Browns (oh dear, this is gonna be hard by my definition): Jerome Harrison- yes, he just recently started getting starts, and yes, he's still unproven, but who else would you name??? Last year, he was their only offense once he got his starts.

YOUR Definition:


Steelers: Mike Wallace- I see potential in the guy, not only can he go deep and burn, but he also can make tough catches and is an underrated playmaker

Bengals: Domata Peko- very good, underrated defensive player who can do just about anything asked of him. He's been flying under the radar for a while now. Then again, hasn't the whole Bengals defense been flying under the radar??? Make that pick the whole Bengals D

Browns: D'Qwell Jackson is a decent (decent is great on this team) Linebacker who could garner more attention if he was on a better team, but Jerome Harrison fits this bill perfectly.
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um... the definition of an x-factor: an unknown variable. so the TCs definition is correct. your definition isn't even close, its just their star player, which is actually the opposite defintion

[T-ray]

[quote name='justifythegame' date='16 July 2010 - 12:49 PM' timestamp='1279302540' post='433509']
um... the definition of an x-factor: an unknown variable. so the TCs definition is correct. your definition isn't even close, its just their star player, which is actually the opposite defintion
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X-factor to me, right or wrong, means the one player a team cannot do without, thus the label 'x-factor'. He's the player that without, there would just be a bunch of Y's, and no meat to the sandwich.

[T-ray]

[quote name='justifythegame' date='16 July 2010 - 12:49 PM' timestamp='1279302540' post='433509']
um... the definition of an x-factor: an unknown variable. so the TCs definition is correct. your definition isn't even close, its just their star player, which is actually the opposite defintion
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Besides, thats why I listed two lists of players, instead of just one. I clearly put MY DEFINITION on every one of the first players I listed, then I clearly labeled the second list of players what his definition of xfactor is, so I made it clear enough.

[Ravens549]

For Pitts, it is one guy--Polamalu.
They need that guy desperately on defense. Without him...they better get ready for another repeat of last season.

[ZIBBY28]

Steelers: Trai Essex or whoever will make the move to LT after Colon went down... their line has been shaky the past few years, and Colon was their anchor... someone needs to step up before it gets ugly going up against pass rushers in the AFC North

Bengals: Jermaine Gresham is the guy that would complete that offense if he can stay healthy and make an impact... they would be a tough offense to stop with 85, A. Bryant, a pass catching TE, and their running game.

Browns: I'm going to stay with TE and go with Ben Watson... We all know Delhome doesn't have much of an arm, so short routes will help open things up and make that offense go.... maybe.

You can name multiple players for each team, but those are three guys that weren't already mentioned that I would certainly consider "X Factors"

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='ZIBBY28' date='16 July 2010 - 11:48 PM' timestamp='1279338482' post='433732']
Steelers: Trai Essex or whoever will make the move to LT after Colon went down... their line has been shaky the past few years, and Colon was their anchor... someone needs to step up before it gets ugly going up against pass rushers in the AFC North

Bengals: Jermaine Gresham is the guy that would complete that offense if he can stay healthy and make an impact... they would be a tough offense to stop with 85, A. Bryant, a pass catching TE, and their running game.

Browns: I'm going to stay with TE and go with Ben Watson... We all know Delhome doesn't have much of an arm, so short routes will help open things up and make that offense go.... maybe.

You can name multiple players for each team, but those are three guys that weren't already mentioned that I would certainly consider "X Factors"
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Great list Zibby. All three of those players could change the dynamics of their teams depending on how they play.

[justifythegame]

[quote name='T-ray' date='16 July 2010 - 03:02 PM' timestamp='1279306975' post='433534']
Besides, thats why I listed two lists of players, instead of just one. I clearly put MY DEFINITION on every one of the first players I listed, then I clearly labeled the second list of players what his definition of xfactor is, so I made it clear enough.
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Alright then so then i guess i'll put my definition of a term instead of its actual definition. So e.g if there was a topic about who do you think a playmaker on Ravens is. So I will list the actual definition and put Ed Reed. Now for my own definition of playmaker that is separate and clearly stated even though its wrong. A playmaker: someone who sucks, so now i will list Frank Walker.

Nice

[T-ray]

[quote name='justifythegame' date='20 July 2010 - 07:53 PM' timestamp='1279673587' post='435133']
Alright then so then i guess i'll put my definition of a term instead of its actual definition. So e.g if there was a topic about who do you think a playmaker on Ravens is. So I will list the actual definition and put Ed Reed. Now for my own definition of playmaker that is separate and clearly stated even though its wrong. A playmaker: someone who sucks, so now i will list Frank Walker.

Nice
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lol