Who Gets The Most Sacks, INTs, & TDs?

[Alexir]

Hello All,

Same theme as the Offense Poll. If you select "Other", please respond with the player you think in [b]Bold.[/b]
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I was limited to 3 Questions and decided that these 3 categories best define a Defense. I was going to make the 3rd question "Takeaways" instead of Interceptions but believed that would be way too many selections. I also believed it would be better to narrow down defenders by splitting the groups by two and what they are good at: Front 7 with pressure and the back 4 with picks.

Feel free to explain your picks or debate other peoples picks.

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[Alexir]

For Tackles I chose the Baltimore Ravens Franchise leading Tackler, Ray Lewis. Middle Linebackers usually average the most tackles and when you have an above average middle linebacker...that just means more tackles.

For Sacks, I normally don't do this, I hate giving rookies NFL respect until they prove it but I chose Kindle over Suggs. I Just feel that Kindle if he is polished enough by regular season will be flying under the radar coming off Suggs opposite side. That and the fact that I don't wanna give credit to Suggs because he ticks me off because he has so much untapped potential!

For Interceptions (which I wanted to make a more broad "Takeaways'), I Chose Zibby because NONE of our cornerbacks are really interception guys, they really do not possess hands! I think Zibby will beat our Hamlin and get a fair share of picks before Ed comes back.

[Ngata92NT]

First choice is pretty clear to me: Ray Lewis. MLBs tend to amass the most tackles of any position and Ray Lewis is the ultimate MLB.

I'll go with Suggs for the most sacks. I think last season was an off year for him. With added pressure and increased emphasis on pass rush I'm betting he gets 10+ sacks.

For interceptions I'm not quite sure. Obviously Reed is by far the most talented ballhawk on the team (and in the entire NFL). So much so that QBs tend to just avoid him or take extra precaution throwing in his direction. Also, he's probably going to miss a few games. Other than Reed it's between Landry and Zibby. It's really a toss up between those two, both of them can nab interceptions pretty consistently. I'll go with Reed anyway.

[TreTheRaven]

I went with Ray on the most tackles. Much in general to the same reason that Ngata did. Being middle linebacker, he is only due to get his fair share of tackles.

For sacks, I went with JJ. I think the guy constantly flies under the radar and is due to have a breakout season.

Since Reed is injured and no time period on a return, I had to go with Landry on interceptions.

[berad]

How could you vote against Ray for most tackles? He's led the team every single year when healthy (knock on wood). What's to stop him, now?

[justifythegame]

[quote name='TheMethodicalPoster' date='01 July 2010 - 12:03 AM' timestamp='1277957027' post='428365']
I went with Ray on the most tackles. Much in general to the same reason that Ngata did. Being middle linebacker, he is only due to get his fair share of tackles.

For sacks, I went with JJ. I think the guy constantly flies under the radar and is due to have a breakout season.

Since Reed is injured and no time period on a return, I had to go with Landry on interceptions.
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I also voted for JJ. He's playing on the last year of his deal isn't he? He gives it his everything every year and every snap anyway. Didn't he already lead the Ravens in sacks last year? I think it was him or Pryce. Suggs has been chillin for the last couple years, and now that he got his 60 mil hes chillin the rest of the way like Sean Alexander.

[Bltravens]

JJ wont even be in a pass rush role this year unless Kindle totally doo doo's the bed, so I dont understand the JJ pick. Hes more of a run stuffer and a coverage guy. If Kindle actually brings some heat off the opposite edge this year theres no reason Suggs, if he is in shape, wont lead our team in sacks. The last years Suggs had help on the opposite side was 03, and 06 and both years I believe he had double digit sacks(?).

[kagejb]

Ray Lewis for tackles. He leads them every year. Barring injury, he should dominate this category as usual.

Terrell Suggs for sacks. He knows he has something to prove after that horrific year. He's been trying to get in shape for training camp, and when even not in his top form, he is still one of our best pass rushers.

Ed Reed for interceptions. When injured, he is still better than most safeties. When 100%, he is the best ballhawking safety in the league. He should come close to looking like himself during 2004 and 2008 after rehabbing well.

[kagejb]

[quote name='Bltravens' date='01 July 2010 - 12:49 AM' timestamp='1277959784' post='428375']
JJ wont even be in a pass rush role this year unless Kindle totally doo doo's the bed, so I dont understand the JJ pick. Hes more of a run stuffer and a coverage guy. If Kindle actually brings some heat off the opposite edge this year theres no reason Suggs, if he is in shape, wont lead our team in sacks. The last years Suggs had help on the opposite side was 03, and 06 and both years I believe he had double digit sacks(?).
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Close, but nope. He did have 12 sacks during his rookie year at 2003, but he had 9.5 sacks in 2006. You were .5 off, so you were kinda right I guess.

Source: http://www.nfl.com/players/terrellsuggs/profile?id=SUG467201

[ed.s52]

Unless you are predicting injury, no one will not chose Ray for leading tackles.

Suggs for sacks, his only competition is Kindle and Pryce. Pryce isn't what he used to be and Kindle is still adjusting to the NFL and won't get half the time that Suggs will have. Also, Antwann Barnes might take some snaps that would otherwise be given to Kindle most likely.

For interceptions, i chose Foxy because I thought he would be the only player that would start the whole year, but then I realized I overlooked Landry, who should get more than Fox but I was too lazy to delete my vote than re cast it so wuteva.

[XxSizzleXx]

The defense is setup for Ray to play clean up so you have to go with the two time DPOY for the most tackles(really when doesn't he lead in tackles for our team). Suggs will close a lot of people's mouths this season and show everyone again that he can be that X-factor and is worth that big contract, won't be surprised to see him end up with double digit sacks and 100 tackles this year. The last one is the closest IMO because we don't know if Ed will be back for the start of the season and I think Foxworth will be really good this year with a year under his belt in our system. I think Ed will finish with around 6 picks and I'm hoping Foxy can get at least 5 this year.

[PuRock]

I went with a surprise pick with #1. My vote is for Kelly Gregg. With Ngata commanding more attention, Gregg being his second year back from injury and with young guys ready to take his spot. He redeems and really shines this year. Racks up those run tackles.

T-Sizzle because he will have the most opportunities and has the greatest talent.

This is a tough one. But Foxworth just because he is probably the most healthy guy. He wins by default.

[lowrider]

I think that Barnes will be close to Suggs in sacks. I think Suggs will get a lot of attention and get double teams but I think our D line is too good to give Suggs double teams all the time so I think he will get the most sacks. This is gonna be a big year for Suggs. And if he doesn't I will start to really regret that extension we gave him.

[justifythegame]

[quote name='Bltravens' date='01 July 2010 - 12:49 AM' timestamp='1277959784' post='428375']
JJ wont even be in a pass rush role this year unless Kindle totally doo doo's the bed, so I dont understand the JJ pick. Hes more of a run stuffer and a coverage guy. If Kindle actually brings some heat off the opposite edge this year theres no reason Suggs, if he is in shape, wont lead our team in sacks. The last years Suggs had help on the opposite side was 03, and 06 and both years I believe he had double digit sacks(?).
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No way, you're joking if you think John Harbaugh is going to start a rookie unless injuries force him to, and even then, there is so much depth that someone else would be playing. Especially Kindle who needs a lot of work, he doesn't know how to play as a complete 3-4 OLB yet and still learning the basics of coverage. You're more likely to see 2nd year player Kruger in the rotation. JJ, your so called one dimensioned player, outplayed Suggs in the pass rush last year. Suggs hasn't been in shape in nearly 3 years and is already skipping workouts this year, elite 60 million dollar men don't need help on that opposite side - they are supposed to make plays on their own, just ask the likes of jared allen.

[Awesomo]

[quote name='justifythegame' date='01 July 2010 - 05:12 PM' timestamp='1277997130' post='428457']
No way, you're joking if [b]you think John Harbaugh is going to start a rookie[/b] unless injuries force him to, and even then, there is so much depth that someone else would be playing. Especially Kindle who needs a lot of work, he doesn't know how to play as a complete 3-4 OLB yet and still learning the basics of coverage.[b] You're more likely to see 2nd year player Kruger in the rotation.[/b] JJ, your so called one dimensioned player, outplayed Suggs in the pass rush last year. Suggs hasn't been in shape in nearly 3 years and is already skipping workouts this year, elite 60 million dollar men don't need help on that opposite side - they are supposed to make plays on their own, just ask the likes of jared allen.
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ok first i don't think kindle will start but i do belive that he will be brought in on third downs to rush the passer.

...and krueger is moving to DE...

[bgdabengal]

Lewis
Suggs
Reed

Assuming reed doesn't miss to much time

[DrMoonTooth]

[quote name='Awesomo' date='01 July 2010 - 10:45 AM' timestamp='1277999120' post='428468']
ok first if i don't think kindle will start but i do belive that he will be brought in on third downs to rush the passer.

[b]...and krueger is moving to DE...[/b]
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Maybe he was saying that Kindle in the LB rotation this year is just THAT unlikely, which I would still disagree with. Kindle will get his snaps, even if it is just on third down.

[DrMoonTooth]

...and I gave the vote for most sacks to Kindle. That's going out on a limb, though. Suggs can have my vote after he shows up to training camp in shape.

[BuckWilds]

Lewis, Suggs, Zibby.

[b]Tackles:[/b] Ray just knows how to be where to be.

[b]Sacks:[/b] Terrell should be motivated to back up his comments about OTA's and make-up for 2009's totals. If he does show up in better shape, in the shape he's supposed to be in, I see him at 12+ sacks for 2010.

[b]Interceptions:[/b] I think Ed's situation is more serious than we'd like to admit. I believe his time on the field this year will be severely limited, if for no other reason than to allow him time to heal. Zibby has proven to be able to find the ball and I think he'll do well in 2010.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Zhamtao' date='01 July 2010 - 07:04 PM' timestamp='1278025453' post='428595']
Lewis, Suggs, Zibby.

[b]Tackles:[/b] Ray just knows how to be where to be.

[b]Sacks:[/b] Terrell should be motivated to back up his comments about OTA's and make-up for 2009's totals. If he does show up in better shape, in the shape he's supposed to be in, I see him at 12+ sacks for 2010.

[b]Interceptions:[/b] I think Ed's situation is more serious than we'd like to admit. I believe his time on the field this year will be severely limited, if for no other reason than to allow him time to heal. Zibby has proven to be able to find the ball and I think he'll do well in 2010.
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I agree completely.

[WACKO4FLACC0]

I voted for Ray Lewis, JJ, and Landry

Ray Lewis is honestly a no brainer the guy is a beast and destroyed players last year in the tackle category no one was even close, not to mention the heart and soul of the D

JJ sacks have gone up every year and was second in sacks last year behind Pryce (who oddly enough has only 1 vote )...and with the "Mount" Cody and Ngata combo taking up multiple bodies for him to run free he is going to have a great year

Ed Reed is also a stupid pick for the INT leader...From what a lot of people (other than Ravens personnel) its going to be extremely hard for Reed to even return for this season...Landry was tied last year for most INT's and I think he can step it up this year with more pressure (hopefully) being added
Although I would love to vote for Zibby I think we are going to wait and see if he can preform like he did when he filled in last year for Reed

[Ravenmore74]

I really think Ngata deserves more credit!

[Ngata92NT]

[quote name='Ravenmore74' date='06 July 2010 - 10:12 PM' timestamp='1278472344' post='429965']
I really think Ngata deserves more credit!
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Ummm what do you mean by "credit"? The thread is about who will lead the team in tackles, sacks and interceptions. Ngata might just be the best player on our defense but he will NOT lead the team in any of those areas.

No DE/DT will get even close to as many tackles as a MLB. In a 3-4 defense DE/DTs don't tend to get many sacks. And Ngata is such a monster teams always have to account for him, meaning that he gets double teamed or chipped. He creates pressure and opens up the O-Line for the LBs but he won't get a ton of sacks. And he's a D-Lineman so he won't get many interceptions (though he gets more of them than any other lineman I can think of lol).

I challenge you to find ONE poster on this board who doesn't give Ngata tons credit for his contribution to this defense.

[ed.s52]

[quote name='Ngata92NT' date='06 July 2010 - 07:22 PM' timestamp='1278472970' post='429970']
Ummm what do you mean by "credit"? The thread is about who will lead the team in tackles, sacks and interceptions. Ngata might just be the best player on our defense but he will NOT lead the team in any of those areas.

No DE/DT will get even close to as many tackles as a MLB. In a 3-4 defense DE/DTs don't tend to get many sacks. And Ngata is such a monster teams always have to account for him, meaning that he gets double teamed or chipped. He creates pressure and opens up the O-Line for the LBs but he won't get a ton of sacks. And he's a D-Lineman so he won't get many interceptions (though he gets more of them than any other lineman I can think of lol).

I challenge you to find ONE poster on this board who doesn't give Ngata tons credit for his contribution to this defense.
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For real dude... thats like saying Joe Thomas isn't the best player on the Browns (or the only good one) because O-Lineman don't Lead in Recptions, Yards, or TD's.

[Ngata92NT]

[quote name='ed.s52' date='06 July 2010 - 10:28 PM' timestamp='1278473312' post='429972']
For real dude... thats like saying Joe Thomas isn't the best player on the Browns (or the only good one) because O-Lineman don't Lead in Recptions, Yards, or TD's.
[/quote]

Lol if only they had 4 more of him they might actually win some games.

Oh and Thomas isn't the only good player on the browns, they have Rogers too. That makes 2 good players total (and a return guy in Cribbs)

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Ngata92NT' date='06 July 2010 - 11:34 PM' timestamp='1278473663' post='429974']
Lol if only they had 4 more of him they might actually win some games.

Oh and Thomas isn't the only good player on the browns, they have Rogers too. That makes 2 good players total (and a return guy in Cribbs)
[/quote]

Jerome Harrison and Eric Wright are pretty good too.

[ed.s52]

Jerome Harrison and Eric Wright are kinda good, Rodgers and Thomas are the only great ones.

[repooponus]

Who do you guys think well end up with the most sacks, most int's, and most TD's (not qb) on the Ravens this year.

-sacks-Suggs(gets back on track)

-Int- Reed ( makes it back, tears it up)

-Td's (Rice (continues to play at a high level)

[XxSizzleXx]

There's a thread already like this halfway down the page...

http://boards.baltimoreravens.com/topic/23357-who-will-lead-the-defense-in/

[Guest maryland1]

My apologies. When I merged the topics, it blew away the poll.