Who Would You Rather Draft?

[ZIBBY28]

[quote name='lowrider' date='20 July 2010 - 09:55 AM' timestamp='1279634117' post='434869']
Turner or Gore

Jennings or Miles Austin
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Gore and Jennings..

Gore/Turner is a toss up IMO. I think Turner will have more TDs, but Gore is a much better receiving threat and I only play in PPR leagues... it's close.

I'd rather have Jennings this year than Austin. I just haven't completely hopped on the Miles Austin bandwagon yet, and the Cowboys will run the ball much more often than the Pack

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Mike Sims-Walker or Crabtree?

article: http://sports.yahoo.com/fantasy/blog/roto_arcade/post/Spin-Doctors-Mike-Sims-Walker-vs-Michael-Crabt;_ylt=AmNF7rYpZ1c5.nSYmsTleIK5bZ8u?urn=fantasy,256941

[ed.s52]

Crabtree no doubt because I expect the Niners to be more of a passing team then the Jags, and he is a beast.

Frank Gore or Andre Johnson?

[Romo Ravens]

Why is everyone so low on Sims-Walker? I like Crabtree, but I don't trust Alex Smith. Hopefully he proves why he was chosen number one.

[ed.s52]

Im not low on Sims Walker, in fact I'm pretty high on him, but I just think Crabtree is better than him and will get more balls.

And David Garrard isn't much better than Smith, if he even is at all.

[McBurks]

[quote name='PuRock' date='07 July 2010 - 11:18 PM' timestamp='1278559092' post='430380']
Let's get the fantasy chatter going with a little question and answer. List two players who are of equal value in each of the following categories WR, RB , (QB or TE).

Who would you rather draft and why:
WR: Derrick Mason or Pierre Garcon
RB: LeSean McCoy or Shonn Greene
QB: Chad Henne or Matt Cassell

Answer and ask three more.
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I'd take Mason because he's shown he is consistent every year.

Shonn Greene because he's in a run first offense and if L.T goes down (which we know he'll break down torwards the end of the season) he'll be the main back.

Chad Henne because he's going to have a good year with a real WR corp.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='PuRock' date='20 July 2010 - 09:31 AM' timestamp='1279632686' post='434847']
It's also important to note that Moss is in the final year of his contract. If he wants one more nice payday, he'll have to perform this season. So I expect his level of motivation to be greater than last year.
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You're right; I forgot his contract is up. Yahoo put out a useful list of fantasy-relevant players going into their contract years this upcoming season - it's quite an interesting list.

[PuRock]

[quote name='ZIBBY28' date='20 July 2010 - 06:06 PM' timestamp='1279663619' post='435078']
Mike Sims-Walker or Crabtree?

article: http://sports.yahoo.com/fantasy/blog/roto_arcade/post/Spin-Doctors-Mike-Sims-Walker-vs-Michael-Crabt;_ylt=AmNF7rYpZ1c5.nSYmsTleIK5bZ8u?urn=fantasy,256941
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[b]Crabtree[/b]. Once again I have really high expectations for San Fran's offense this year. Alex Smith finally seems to have the wheels-a-churning and should play very well finally. I watched a lot of San Fran's games last year towards the end and you could see how they wanted Crabtree to be involved in the offense. Screen passes, slant passes, deep passes.

I had Sims-Walker last year and he did many fine things. This year he has no #2 opposite of him. Tory Holt is gone. He didn't exactly finish strong once teams started gameplanning for him. In his last six games he had 5 games where he only amassed no more than 2 receptions. He came out of the gate strong, but once other teams had film on him, they were able to shut him down.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' date='20 July 2010 - 09:51 PM' timestamp='1279677064' post='435151']
[b]Why is everyone so low on Sims-Walker?[/b] I like Crabtree, but I don't trust Alex Smith. Hopefully he proves why he was chosen number one.
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I'm not low on Sims-Walker but aren't really high on him either. I had him in two leagues last year(traded him away in one for Jamaal Charles right before he went off ) and while MSW put together some good lines earlier in the season, once teams figured out he had talent, they clamped down on him. And considering Garrard is an average QB and there aren't many talented players around MSW, he had a poor second half. I honestly don't see much changing this season.

[PuRock]

[quote name='ed.s52' date='20 July 2010 - 09:32 PM' timestamp='1279675949' post='435145']
Crabtree no doubt because I expect the Niners to be more of a passing team then the Jags, and he is a beast.

Frank Gore or Andre Johnson?
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I have Frank Gore sitting one spot before AJ on my BPA. I love Andre Johnson. But Frank Gore is the last of the workhorses at RB.

[lowrider]

[quote name='PuRock' date='21 July 2010 - 10:36 AM' timestamp='1279722984' post='435295']
I have Frank Gore sitting one spot before AJ on my BPA. I love Andre Johnson. But Frank Gore is the last of the workhorses at RB.
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Yeah I think Gore is going to have a good year. 49ers drafted an OT and OG in the first round. Smith is solid and they now have a passing attack so teams can't just stack the box and the division they play in sucks. If the 49ers don't win that division this year, they never will.

[ed.s52]

Jay Cutler or kevin Kolb?

[Romo Ravens]

[quote name='ed.s52' date='22 July 2010 - 12:06 PM' timestamp='1279829163' post='435931']
Jay Cutler or kevin Kolb?
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I have to go with Cutler. Most of the leagues I'm in this year don't penalize for INT's, so Cutler can throw 5 TD's with 4 INT's for all I care lol. Also, Martz will prove to be a great OC that will help Cutler return to Pro Bowl form, and two of the WR's will have over 1,000 yards.

I'm staying away from Kolb this year. There are reports coming out of Eagles' camp that Vick is turning into what he was in Atlanta. He'll get a heavy, and I mean heavy, amount of touches in the red zone. I had McNabb last year, and Vick frustrated the crap out of me. Not only do you have to worry about the Wildcat, but you have Mike Bell? No Thanks!

[PuRock]

[quote name='ed.s52' date='22 July 2010 - 04:06 PM' timestamp='1279829163' post='435931']
Jay Cutler or kevin Kolb?
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[b]Cutler[/b] but Kolb has greater upside.

Both QB's are in pass-happy offenses. Cutler should put up a lot of passes this year, but he will also put up a lot of INTs too. I expect Cutler to put up a decent touchdown total this year. But figure his touchdown's are only worth 4 points because of the interceptions.

Kolb needs a full year before he can prove to be a viable starter. 2 games is hardly a fact. Derek Anderson had more than 2 good games in his career and he is currently sitting on a bench.

[Ed_Reed20]

Make it three for [b]Cutler[/b]. He's a better QB than Kolb in my opinion, has a pretty good supporting cast around him and should be have a good year with Martz the OC.

Here's one:

Ben Tate or Cadillac Williams?

[PuRock]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' date='22 July 2010 - 08:24 PM' timestamp='1279844657' post='436048']
Make it three for [b]Cutler[/b]. He's a better QB than Kolb in my opinion, has a pretty good supporting cast around him and should be have a good year with Martz the OC.

Here's one:

Ben Tate or Cadillac Williams?
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All I know is that I have [b]Cadillac Williams[/b] rated way too high on my boards. Cadillac is a great RB. He just needs to stay on the field. Look what he did last year and then ponder about all the rehabbing he did in that offseason. This year he is not coming back from injury for once. He's ready to go, and he will defintley surprise a lot of people [i]if he can stay healthy[/i].

Houston will be changing faces of their RBs all the time. Kubiak really loves slayton in the passing game. He can line him up then have him motion to WR. So I expect to see Slayton involved on passing downs. Ben Tate looks to be the guy, but you still can't count Foster out of the race.

Both of these guys come with different type of risk. But I think Cadillac will prove to be a great option.

[ed.s52]

I agree Caddilac over Tate, because Tate doesnt even have a for sure spot as the starter, and with Antonio Bryant leaving Williams will be the bulk of the offense.

[Romo Ravens]

I have to go with Caddy. I like his situation in TB, and I think they'll run a lot. They also have some talented WR's with Williams and Benn, as well as Winslow at the TE position, which will allow defenses to play Cadillac honest. I've heard that Tate is buried in the depth chart, and I can actually see a bounce back year from Slaton.

If Williams can stay healthy, the sky is the limit. I too, have him high on my board.

[Romo Ravens]

Sidney Rice (assuming Favre comes back) or Marques Colston.

I'm running out of idea's!

[PuRock]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' date='22 July 2010 - 10:04 PM' timestamp='1279850671' post='436091']
Sidney Rice (assuming Favre comes back) or Marques Colston.

I'm running out of idea's!
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I'm not a big fan of either of these guys and I have them so low on my board that I haven't taken either of these guys in any mock drafts.

I'd go with [b]Rice[/b] though for the sheer fact that Favre and him seem to hit it off last year. I think it will be hard for him to replicate his production last year. I think the Vikings will be more focus on the AP run game, as well as getting Harvin more involved.

I grabbed Colston off the waiver wire his rookie season and he earned a spot in my HOF. But ever since then, you just can't count on him to average consistent numbers because of the style of offense.

[PuRock]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' date='22 July 2010 - 10:04 PM' timestamp='1279850671' post='436091']
I'm running out of idea's!
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There's tons of matchups out there - some deeper ones:

Antonio Bryant or Braylon Edwards
Ahmad Bradshaw or Ricky Williams
Todd Heap or Jeremy Shockey

[ed.s52]

[quote name='PuRock' date='22 July 2010 - 06:59 PM' timestamp='1279853989' post='436114']
There's tons of matchups out there - some deeper ones:

Antonio Bryant or Braylon Edwards
Ahmad Bradshaw or Ricky Williams
Todd Heap or Jeremy Shockey
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As for the other one, Rice easily.

But I like these....

I'll take [b]Antonio Bryant[/b] by a hair, because Braylon may very well be the number two, and Antonio is flat out better. He is a number 1 playing as a number 2, while Braylon just drops balls and will sit behind Santonio at least, as well as probably Cotchery.
Also, Carson Palmer is better at throwing than Sanchez, and the Jets will probably run more.

[b]Ricky Williams, [/b]because the Giants are becoming a passing team. Ricky is projected to start over Brown this year, from what I've heard, and I simply like him more than the #2 Bradshaw who will get less playing time and isn't as good.

It's a no brainer, [b]Shockey[/b]. Shockey doesn't have as bad of injury problems, and is in a passing offense. We run more and have two new TE's who will likely take some snaps for Heap as well as maybe goaline duties, and we run it more.

Vince Young or Big Ben
Steven Jackson or Michael Turner(I don't think we did this)
Drew Brees or Aaron Rodgers (Don't think we did this either)

[PuRock]

[quote name='ed.s52' date='22 July 2010 - 11:09 PM' timestamp='1279854547' post='436120']
[b]Ricky Williams, [/b]because the Giants are becoming a passing team. Ricky is projected to start over Brown this year, from what I've heard, and I simply like him more than the #2 Bradshaw who will get less playing time and isn't as good.

Vince Young or Big Ben
Steven Jackson or Michael Turner(I don't think we did this)
Drew Brees or Aaron Rodgers (Don't think we did this either)
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I heard the opposite that Brown will be the starter as long as he's ready to go for the season opener. If he isn't 100% then Williams will start the season while they work Brown back into the offense.


[b]Big Ben[/b]. Because what you are drafting here is a back-up QB. You obviously already picked your #1 guy and he'll be 100% and playing for the 4 starting games. Then it will be worth the wait when you have Big Ben on your bench once he does come back.

[b]Micheal Turner[/b]. Another matchup that I am not a big fan of either guys. Turner will get the touchdowns. While Jackson will get the ppr points. Touchdowns trump ppr.

[b]Aaron Rodgers[/b]. Last season was a bit of a wake up call for Drew Brees fantasy status. They tended to run the ball more than the previous year. Brees is a great QB, but I think GB will be letting the chains off Aaron Rodgers. You can def count on Rodgers throwing for over 4500 yards. The better value pick this year will be Brees though.

[Romo Ravens]

PuRock - You don't like Turner this year? Shoot, I'd take him at 5 before I took Andre. I think he'll have a bounce back year, but of course that's my opinion. What's your motive on it?

[PuRock]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' date='23 July 2010 - 02:58 PM' timestamp='1279911486' post='436400']
PuRock - You don't like Turner this year? Shoot, I'd take him at 5 before I took Andre. I think he'll have a bounce back year, but of course that's my opinion. What's your motive on it?
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On my board I have Andre Johnson at #6 and Turner at #7. So it's not like I'm dogging Turner too much.

I just prefer to have a PPR guy. Let's look at Turner's PPR stats for his best year 2008 where he rushed for 1699 yards. He was only targeted 9 times!!!!!! That's insane with just 6 catches all season (16 games). Last season with 11 games he had 5 catches!!!!

With the news that the Falcons want to open up the playbook for Matt Ryan, I can see Turner's TD totals going down. And if he doesn't rack up the TDs like he did 2008, he won't be getting the receptions, and he is fighting durability issues. It's hard for me to like him when he's getting drafted in the first round.

Andre Johnson on the other hands is in a class of his own for WR. I'd feel safer taking him over Turner as a focus point for my team.

Just some food for thought.

[PuRock]

I'm high on Matt Ryan and Roddy White this year which sort of tilts the balance away from Turner.

[Romo Ravens]

Ditto. I like White this year, but not so much Ryan. Is the majority of your leagues PPR? Because I don't play that system, yet I have Turner very high on my board.

With that said, I still love Johnson lol.

[RavensTown]

[quote name='ed.s52' date='22 July 2010 - 10:09 PM' timestamp='1279854547' post='436120']


Vince Young or Big Ben
Steven Jackson or Michael Turner(I don't think we did this)
Drew Brees or Aaron Rodgers (Don't think we did this either)
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Vince Young for me. I'm not a fan of Ben this year. He lost Holmes, and during his suspension the Steelers could get back into a run first team with Mendenhall proving himself last year. Young was a good back-up for me last year and I'll take him again.

Turner for reasons previously stated.

Drew Brees. I don't have Rodgers fever, and I can't argue with his stats. Brees had another good fantasy year last year, and he spreads the ball to all of his receivers which makes him more valuable.

How bout some defenses?

49ers or Saints?

[XxSizzleXx]

Jonathan Stewart or Deangelo Williams.

[T-ray]

[quote name='RavensTown' date='25 July 2010 - 02:34 AM' timestamp='1280043299' post='437031']
Vince Young for me. I'm not a fan of Ben this year. He lost Holmes, and during his suspension the Steelers could get back into a run first team with Mendenhall proving himself last year. Young was a good back-up for me last year and I'll take him again.

Turner for reasons previously stated.

Drew Brees. I don't have Rodgers fever, and I can't argue with his stats. Brees had another good fantasy year last year, and he spreads the ball to all of his receivers which makes him more valuable.

How bout some defenses?

49ers or Saints?
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As for this one, I'd have to go with the Saints IF you want consistency and your league awards you turnover points, which I haven't come across a league that doesn't. The 49ers have a better D in real life, but the N.O. scheme makes opposing teams turn the ball over a ton, as witnessed last year. Also, the 49ers scored 45 points in week 4, and more than half of their total points for the season in just four games. This means inconsistency abounds. However, I'm not too keen on getting D's unless the good ones drop a few rounds, because week to week matchups do you in, or help you out. Who would you rather have?? The Jets D versus Indy, or the Dallas D versus the Rams??

[T-ray]

[quote name='XxSizzleXx' date='01 August 2010 - 03:04 PM' timestamp='1280693055' post='442376']
Jonathan Stewart or Deangelo Williams.
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Shew, this one is a hard one. If I could get both guys, I'd be set, because the Panthers are a very good running team, but this is a running back by committee team that is unpredictable to say the least. I'd go with J. Stewar though, if only because he has tons of potential, and if Fox wants his job, he'll play him more than D-Will. But Fox has shown loyal to his veterans, in the case of putting up with Jake Delhomme for years, so D-Will brings a case of his own to the table. Like I said, this one is extremely hard, and I'm gonna try to steer wide clear of this dilemma.